Except all the pictures posted have at least some muscle definition, so I'm not sure where you're getting the almost totally devoid of muscle thing from, bishonen types tend to have At least some definition, even popular androgynous ************ Sephiroth has got muscle tone. The slim body type is not some outlier, even outside of geeky subcultures, boy band groups and young adult characters have little muscle tone and are massively popular amongst the general populace, not just geeky subcultures.s0denone said:We are both kind of speaking out of turn I suppose, but I cannot help but feel that if you move outside of the "geek"/"nerd"/"introvert" or whatever you want to call the stereotypical Escapist (no offense meant to anyone, I am part of you myself after all )) then the vast majority of women, at least that I've encountered, prefer a man to be a man. Not for him to necessarily be a big fat slob or an overproportioned meathead, but for him to display a lot of stereotypical masculine and (dare i say) even macho traits.EternallyBored said:I don't think the attraction to more effeminate or bishonen characters is really much of an outlier, given the popularity of such characters in media, I would call all of the preferences expressed so far pretty mainstream, perhaps with the exception of amyss, but non binary isn't really a thorough physical descriptor so I can only make assumptions.
It's sort of like the argument guys have between being attracted to large busty women versus smaller "cuter" women, the general trend I see with women is that a large chunk of attraction falls along a sort of bulky to sleek scale. Looking at the biggest female heartthrobs actually makes the above Hemsworth to Hiddleston scale a somewhat decent indicator of where the majority falls somewhere between the two.
So yeah, so far at least in this thread, I'm not seeing any outliers, I'm not a woman, but from what I've seen outside the Internet, attraction to more slim or feminine looking guys is not an outlier, it's a pretty mainstream look, one driven by anime, boy bands, and young adult media.
Especially the bodytype thing, where a man is exceptionally slim and almost totally devoid of muscle, making him look effeminate before he has done anything else, doesn't really exist outside of these particular sub-cultures.
We might see a specific body type more heavily favored within geeky subcultures, so we could say the answers will likely trend towards one end of the spectrum more than the general populace, but I find it far fetched to think that anywhere close to a majority, or even a plurality of answers here will be actual outliers on the scale of female attraction, the slim body type is very much mainstream, so is a more muscled body type, I've seen plenty of women outside of introverted or geeky subcultures go gaga over smaller sleeker built men.
In the end, you are right that we are both jumping the gun a bit, it is a presumption as no hard data exists for the escapist, but I find it hard to swallow that just being a part of an introverted subculture would cause most people's preferences to skew so far outside of the mainstream. If you asked a similar question of the men here I would find it believable that some would prefer outliers like the weird proportions of some anime and video game women or preferring Furries over humans, but I'd be willing to bet most answers would fall somewhere in the range of mainstream sensibilities.