World of Warcraft Casting Director Killed in Hit-And-Run

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World of Warcraft Casting Director Killed in Hit-And-Run



A longtime videogame industry casting director has been killed in a hit-and-run accident.

In a truly sad state of events, prominent videogame casting director Brigitte Burdine of BBCasting [http://www.bbcasting.com/] has been tragically killed in what appears to be a hit-and-run accident. She was reportedly on her way home from a late-night date on December 29 when she was run over by a dark sedan, and passed away from the injuries sustained.

Burdine, 48, was known for her work on titles such as Mortal Kombat [http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Wrath-Lich-Expansion-Mac/dp/B000VJTJNE/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1293718485&sr=1-1] reboot.

Burdine was struck at Culver Boulevard and Pershing Drive in the Playa del Rey area of Los Angeles at 1:45AM and was rushed to the hospital, but her injuries were not survivable. The driver of the car did not stick around. Police are looking for suspects and say the sedan that hit Burdine would have front-end damage. If you happen to have any information about the accident, notify the LAPD.

Source: Kotaku [http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2010/12/brigitte_burdine_dies_hit_run.php]

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And just 5 minutes ago I read the news about Boney M's death, what is this madness today?
 

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I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
 

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Not a terribly good track record, Killzone and inFamous have some horrid voice work.

Either way, it's always sad when someone is killed in a hit-and-run.

Hopefully they catch this person.
 

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Wow. This is a sobering start to my day.

Requiescat in Pacem, Brigette, and may your killer be brought to justice.
 

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Damn. Always a shame when a life is lost.
But a dark sedan certainly sounds suspicious.
Condolences to her family, and I hope they find the guy or girl who did it.
 

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I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
 

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NLS said:
And just 5 minutes ago I read the news about Boney M's death, what is this madness today?
Gah! NOO!!!

*ahem* My condolences, hope they catch the guy
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
I'm detecting three kinds of fucked up in this post.

1) Not caring about a person's death until involvement with a specific game is mentioned.

2) Wishing gruesome death upon the person responsible for what is deemed to be an accident.

3) Offering condolences when you don't actually care.


Other than that, all I can say on the news report itself is that fleeing from the scene of an accident is a cowardly act, so I hope the person in question is found and held responsible for his/her actions.
 

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JediMB said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
I'm detecting three kinds of fucked up in this post.

1) Not caring about a person's death until involvement with a specific game is mentioned.

2) Wishing gruesome death upon the person responsible for what is deemed to be an accident.

3) Offering condolences when you don't actually care.


Other than that, all I can say on the news report itself is that fleeing from the scene of an accident is a cowardly act, so I hope the person in question is found and held responsible for his/her actions.
If I don't personally know the person or if they haven't worked on something I've enjoyed (in this case Killzone 2), I don't care.

They say accident, I say dumb ************ got drunk or something and herp-derped that he could drive home, or there was something else going on.

Do you really think anybody actually cares, save for the people who knew her personally? If so, you're quite... I think naive works here, possibly blissfully oblivious.
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
.....

Charming.

OP: It's always sad when something like this happens, especially in an accident like this, always seems to random. Hopefully they can catch the guy.
 

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Thats a terrible thing that happened.

Rest in peace and I pray that your killer is brought to justice.
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Do you really think anybody actually cares, save for the people who knew her personally? If so, you're quite... I think naive works here, possibly blissfully oblivious.
Oh, of course I don't. I just don't like the idea of people pretending to care, and turning sympathy into something superficial that you simply offer for the sake of having said something on the subject.
 

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JediMB said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Do you really think anybody actually cares, save for the people who knew her personally? If so, you're quite... I think naive works here, possibly blissfully oblivious.
Oh, of course I don't. I just don't like the idea of people pretending to care, and turning sympathy into something superficial that you simply offer for the sake of having said something on the subject.
Fair enough.
 

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NLS said:
And just 5 minutes ago I read the news about Boney M's death, what is this madness today?

That's a shame.

Somewhat related, here's an awesome cover of Rasputin:

 

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HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!

OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
 

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Requiescat in Pacem, Brigette, and may your killer be brought to justice.
Has a certain game trained me to read that as a confession? Only one type of person says that and only after something happens.

Ironic Pirate said:
NLS said:
And just 5 minutes ago I read the news about Boney M's death, what is this madness today?
Without playing it alongside "Night Flight to Venus" it's really only half a song as far as I'm concerened. Even if only for the bridge between the two.

 

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Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!

OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
Because as we all know, you have a psychic link with the killer and know it was an accident, right?
 

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HG131 said:
snip for the sake of sanity
Because statistically the vast majority of hit and runs are accidents.

Thanks for clearing up that hypocritical post you made and not ignoring it completely, by the way.
 

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If she is behind wrath of the lich king then this is over due.
In all seriousness though what a waste of life, working on games like wrath and Infamous. She could have worked for Epic and helped develop Gears 3 :<
 

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Here's a link [http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/12/brigitte-burdine-hit-and-run-playa-del-rey.html] to the LA Times article with contact info for tips.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
snip for the sake of sanity
Because statistically the vast majority of hit and runs are accidents.

Thanks for clearing up that hypocritical post you made and not ignoring it completely, by the way.
Yes, it's a bit hypocritical. I may also be slightly insane, so it's to be expected.
 

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Dam shame, no mater what she worked on. Yes hundreds of people die every day in stupid pointless ways, and each one is just as tragic.
Ironic Pirate said:
NLS said:
And just 5 minutes ago I read the news about Boney M's death, what is this madness today?

That's a shame.
The shame is that I only just found this guy existed
 

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HG131 said:
Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
snip for the sake of sanity
Because statistically the vast majority of hit and runs are accidents.

Thanks for clearing up that hypocritical post you made and not ignoring it completely, by the way.
Yes, it's a bit hypocritical. I may also be slightly insane, so it's to be expected.
Slightly? Pfft. I'm completely nuts. Haha, I win! Oh wait...
 

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It's weird that the only picture of her they found suitable to use was the one of her sitting next to a giant waffle.
 

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Well that's sad news. Although I didn't know of her by name, it's always unfortunate to hear about someone's untimely death.

Whoever hit her should turn themselves in. As far as I'm concerned, even if it was an accident, fleeing the scene is a terrible thing to do. And selfish, I might add. It only causes more problems, and is a disgraceful way to react when you've wounded or even killed somebody.

My condolences to her family; that's not something anyone should have to go through.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Not a terribly good track record, Killzone and inFamous have some horrid voice work.
Killzone features some excellent voice work as well as some terrible voice work, so I wouldn't be that categorical.

OT: My condolences, obviously. Not much more I can say, except that the person responsible should and probably will be found.
 

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I was gonna post something like "Ha I bet it was an angry WOW player trying to get back at the creators for deleting his account". But after reading this, I realise how stupid that is...
I thought Killzone 2 and infamous had some pretty good voice actors though so this is a shame from a gaming point of view. But its a shame anyway you look at it. I just hope it was an accident and I am totally wrong about the crazed WOW player.
 

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Oh god, this is just so awful, no matter if it was an accident or not.
I know that many people will just say "hundreds of people die everyday", but this doesn't change the fact that almost every death is a tragedy, including this one.

I just hope the killer will be caught.
 

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Senaro said:
It's weird that the only picture of her they found suitable to use was the one of her sitting next to a giant waffle.
How is that NOT suitable for anything? When I die, my eulogy will be read by a giant waffle.

This is unfortunate, though I haven't played Infamous or Killzone (and am not really interested in the games) I love some of the choices in Lich King, and there was a LOT more voice acting than in the previous two games.

As to the people saying this or that about a person's death not mattering, sure, it might not always matter personally, but A: It's more often than not a bit callous of you to point it out, no matter what your motives, and B: It's here at all because she was part of the video game community, and it was just unfortunate. Maybe she's not a household name, but she played a part, and it IS news after all.
 

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We have to stop looking at drunk driving as a minor offense, and see it as a potentially major problem ready to occur. How many peopole need to die before something actually happens, and there are more severe punishments for drinking and driving.
 

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coldfrog said:
Senaro said:
It's weird that the only picture of her they found suitable to use was the one of her sitting next to a giant waffle.
How is that NOT suitable for anything? When I die, my eulogy will be read by a giant waffle.

This is unfortunate, though I haven't played Infamous or Killzone (and am not really interested in the games) I love some of the choices in Lich King, and there was a LOT more voice acting than in the previous two games.

As to the people saying this or that about a person's death not mattering, sure, it might not always matter personally, but A: It's more often than not a bit callous of you to point it out, no matter what your motives, and B: It's here at all because she was part of the video game community, and it was just unfortunate. Maybe she's not a household name, but she played a part, and it IS news after all.
Indeed, it's always sad to hear of people getting killed in accidents like this. I wasn't trying to detract from that in any way. Death is never a fun thing, but with so much of it, we have to cope however we can.
 

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May she rest in peace and may Mortal Kombat not be ruined by her death.
 

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Always a sad day when someone in the industry passes, especially in circumstances like this.

Well, I hope her date went well at least. I'd hate for her to have died dissapointed.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
Not a terribly good track record, Killzone and inFamous have some horrid voice work.

Either way, it's always sad when someone is killed in a hit-and-run.

Hopefully they catch this person.
Nice to see that you can put your notorious anti-Western gaming sentiments on hold for a death. Stay classy.

Otherwise, my condolences to the family.
 

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Senaro said:
Indeed, it's always sad to hear of people getting killed in accidents like this. I wasn't trying to detract from that in any way. Death is never a fun thing, but with so much of it, we have to cope however we can.
No no, I wasn't actually referring to you in any way (other than being amused by your waffle pointing-outed-ness, which, now that I look at it more, it actually looks like a waffle-themed iPhone). I'm just saying there's a lot of people bringing this stuff up when it's not really necessary at all. I know it's the internet and I can't make people shut up, but sometimes I figure it's worth a shot. Perhaps there's a case where someone might not actually realize it's in bad taste to point out they have no interest in someone's death. It's like if you wrote to a newspaper and said "Can you stop printing the eulogy section? I don't know any of these people." It's not specifically there for you.

This has been my weekly "Fruitless efforts to clean up the Internet" speech, see you next week.
 

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Awww poor woman, I wish her family and friends the best. I haven't played Killzone 2 nor InFamous but I did play WoW and in the wrath of the lich king there were some nice acted scenes, so thank you.

Supernova2000 said:
Why could it not have been someone more deserving...like the CEO of Egosoft?
That is a horrid comment.

PS: Whenever someone dies around Christmas I feel twice as bad inside
 

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You know, its really strange.

When Michel Jackson passed away, i didnt so much as shrug.

And now a Casting Director ive never heard of before dies, and i accually started to shed a tear.

Its always sad when someone in the video game indestry dies. ):
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
JediMB said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
I'm detecting three kinds of fucked up in this post.

1) Not caring about a person's death until involvement with a specific game is mentioned.

2) Wishing gruesome death upon the person responsible for what is deemed to be an accident.

3) Offering condolences when you don't actually care.


Other than that, all I can say on the news report itself is that fleeing from the scene of an accident is a cowardly act, so I hope the person in question is found and held responsible for his/her actions.
If I don't personally know the person or if they haven't worked on something I've enjoyed (in this case Killzone 2), I don't care.

They say accident, I say dumb ************ got drunk or something and herp-derped that he could drive home, or there was something else going on.

Do you really think anybody actually cares, save for the people who knew her personally? If so, you're quite... I think naive works here, possibly blissfully oblivious.
Am I a bad person for laughing when you said "herp-derped" because I seriously laughed.

Back to the point: I cared because I think it is terrible when anyone dies, especially when they were recently with their boyfriend at this time of year, a time when everyone is meant to be happy. Also as the news report says she was highly talented at her career, a career predominantly controlled by males. I didn't feel as bad as her family and friends when she died, but I felt bad enough to think how sad it was. The fact that she was in the gaming industry didn't change how I felt or cared one bit, unlike you (if you were serious) who could only start caring because she was responsible for part of a game that you enjoyed.

I don't have much else to say right now, have a merry Christmas.
 

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Always a shame to lose someone in the industry, and considering how much time I spent with Lich King, her obituary caught my attention.

As I had expected, there are some frightfully emotionally bankrupt responses here, though the Internet is a great place for people to show how devoid of empathy and compassion one is. You can care about the death of anyone, it doesn't make you a weak person or overly sentimental, nor are you some sort of hypocrite for not constantly worrying about the death of all people.

Also, as I've seen several people say this, a hit and run is not an accident. Hitting someone with your car can be an accident. Hitting them with your car and then driving off without stopping to render aid is an intentional act, and killing them in the process is manslaughter.
 

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It's always sad to hear about death (Especially as the issue of it seems to crop up everywhere, my local paper seems to be obessing over a dead kidnapped woman recently)

I hope the person who hit her is caught, so they can at least be brought to justice and pay for what they did, accident or not.
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
Do you really think anybody actually cares, save for the people who knew her personally? If so, you're quite... I think naive works here, possibly blissfully oblivious.
I'd rather be naive and oblivious than jaded, cynical, insensitive.

Anyhoo, I hope they catch the guy, I just hate hearing this kind of stuff. Did she leave any kids behind?
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
snip for the sake of sanity
Because statistically the vast majority of hit and runs are accidents.

Thanks for clearing up that hypocritical post you made and not ignoring it completely, by the way.
Yes, it's a bit hypocritical. I may also be slightly insane, so it's to be expected.
Slightly? Pfft. I'm completely nuts. Haha, I win! Oh wait...
Taking the life of a killer isn't murder in my books anyways. It's garbage disposal.
 

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JediMB said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
I'm detecting three kinds of fucked up in this post.

1) Not caring about a person's death until involvement with a specific game is mentioned.

2) Wishing gruesome death upon the person responsible for what is deemed to be an accident.

3) Offering condolences when you don't actually care.


Other than that, all I can say on the news report itself is that fleeing from the scene of an accident is a cowardly act, so I hope the person in question is found and held responsible for his/her actions.
Well, reports like this always say something is an accident until proven otherwise. The fact that it's a hit and run is what inspires a lot of the anger I believe. Not to mention that it does sound like the kind of case where it might have been intentional, but until they find out who it was (if they ever do) we'll never know. The way the police play the game they oftentimes lie and hold back information as well, if they were to say they suspected it was murder (if they did) it's going to make a perpetrator a lot more wary and more difficult to catch for example. The odds are that it's nothing that dramatic of course, but I'm sure a lot of people are entertaining the possibility. Gaming is a big business, and she's involved with actors who can be an egotistical bunch, and have perpetuated a lot of crimes due to not being selected by people like casting directors.

As far as not caring until specific games are mentioned, understand that this is newsworthy to this community because she was involved in gaming. Any person dying is sad, but it doesn't invoke that much feeling unless it's someone you knew, at least through their work. Her association with a game you played is what makes a lot of that connection, especially if you liked it. Sort of like how people more upset when an Actor who did movies they liked dies, even if they didn't know them personally, than say when some random homeless person falls asleep on a train track while drunk and dies. Nobody thinks it's a good thing, but the former is a bit more personal. Of course it's most personal when it's someone you personally know or are related to.

Offering condolences is polite, and matter more to the people who are still alive. Even if you don't care about the person who died, it's hard to not care about the people that were left behind, especially if you have ever been in that position yourself and can relate to what they are feeling even if you are not personally feeling it. It's sort of like how you attend a funeral for the people who are alive, not nessicarly for the people who are dead.
 

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OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
Yeah, why should we make a big deal about a gaming developers death on a GAMING forum right? Thats just silly!

OT: Its always sad to see someone die like this. I just hope they catch whoever did it and send him to jail because I'm gonna guess its their fault if they didn't hang around afterwards...
 
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I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
You don't get that right. You aren't any better than the killer right now, possibly even worse.

One more to the tally. It's a sad thing to hear about but there's nothing I can do. I won't offer my sympathy because if it were me in this case I'd hate me for it and because the likelihood of my condolences reaching her family are slim to nil.

I will say I wish it didn't happen, though. She shouldn't have lost her life prematurely[footnote]Assuming there is no fate[/footnote] and I hope that the killer be brought to justice.
 

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Offering condolences is polite
But it is dishonest if you don't actually sympathize or empathize with the ones left behind by the one who passed, and cheapens the idea of offering condolences for those who actually do care. That's my issue, as I elaborated on in a follow-up post.
 

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We have to stop looking at drunk driving as a minor offense, and see it as a potentially major problem ready to occur. How many peopole need to die before something actually happens, and there are more severe punishments for drinking and driving.
I have to agree here. It doesn't take a genius to know that drinking will impair you, and that if there's one thing you shouldn't do while impaired, it's drive.

I have a hard time deciding what would be an adequate punishment, though. I would think a couple of years in jail with their license revoked would be a good start, with bigger punishments coming if they also hit someone (as you'd add manslaughter and whatnot to it).
 

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HG131 said:
Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!

OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
Because as we all know, you have a psychic link with the killer and know it was an accident, right?
A few points.

First, if you're going to intentionally murder a specific person, there are generally better tools than a vehicle that would accomplish the task.

Second, most hit and run incidents have been determined to be accidents.

Third, because there is no evidence that indicates malicious intent nor has there been a trial that established guilt or innocence, the duty of the population is a civilized society is to presume the accused party is innocent.
 

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I'm sorry to hear about her death. I wouldn't wish that upon my enemy (unless they did something bad to me...)

Now I have to keep praying for Dan Rather and Phil Collins. Excuse me *walks away humbly*
 

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Hit and run? Just makes things worse for yourself with a harsher sentence, worse for the family since they have no peace of mind and potentially worse for the victim who could have survived if quicker help was made available by the driver.

Shame... this is defiantly a sad piece of news.
 

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Wow. What kinda jackass hit and runs like that?

WHY would you hit someone like that? She didn't deserve it.

Sometimes I hate this world.
 

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
You don't get that right. You aren't any better than the killer right now, possibly even worse.

One more to the tally. It's a sad thing to hear about but there's nothing I can do. I won't offer my sympathy because if it were me in this case I'd hate me for it and because the likelihood of my condolences reaching her family are slim to nil.

I will say I wish it didn't happen, though. She shouldn't have lost her life prematurely[footnote]Assuming there is no fate[/footnote] and I hope that the killer be brought to justice.
How am I as bad, let alone worse, than him? Was she a murderer? No. He is.
 
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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
How am I as bad, let alone worse, than him? Was she a murderer? No. He is.
Because you say that whoever they were, whether it was an accident or on purpose, the person should be killed for it. But wait, it doesn't stop there, they should also be tortured for what they did.

The killer may have done something horrifically wrong, but you think that, above all other options, torture and murder are how to solve this and punish the man or woman responsible.
 

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
HG131 said:
The Unworthy Gentleman said:
How am I as bad, let alone worse, than him? Was she a murderer? No. He is.
Because you say that whoever they were, whether it was an accident or on purpose, the person should be killed for it. But wait, it doesn't stop there, they should also be tortured for what they did.

The killer may have done something horrifically wrong, but you think that, above all other options, torture and murder are how to solve this and punish the man or woman responsible.
They have to know they hit something, or they were too drunk to know. They'd still have damage to the vehicle if they were drunk. They should at least turn themselves in under suspicion if drunk and if lucid, they didn't give a damn about the person they mowed down. That kind of person deserves no mercy.
 

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HG131 said:
Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!

OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
Because as we all know, you have a psychic link with the killer and know it was an accident, right?
Good Lord, whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Also, if you really think that most hit-and-runs are premeditated or purposeful acts of violence, you need to watch less TV.
 
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They have to know they hit something, or they were too drunk to know. They'd still have damage to the vehicle if they were drunk. They should at least turn themselves in under suspicion if drunk and if lucid, they didn't give a damn about the person they mowed down. That kind of person deserves no mercy.
Yes, they have done something wrong, something very wrong. But, they shouldn't be killed because of it. They should be put through the justice system and be punished rightly through that. It may not be perfect but it's damn better than the alternative of simply killing them.

You can't say murder is wrong and then say it should be fixed by murder.
 

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The Unworthy Gentleman said:
HG131 said:
They have to know they hit something, or they were too drunk to know. They'd still have damage to the vehicle if they were drunk. They should at least turn themselves in under suspicion if drunk and if lucid, they didn't give a damn about the person they mowed down. That kind of person deserves no mercy.
Yes, they have done something wrong, something very wrong. But, they shouldn't be killed because of it. They should be put through the justice system and be punished rightly through that. It may not be perfect but it's damn better than the alternative of simply killing them.

You can't say murder is wrong and then say it should be fixed by murder.
It's actually kinda funny. They kill someone and they STILL end up the victim somehow. Amazing.
 

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HG131 said:
Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!

OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
Because as we all know, you have a psychic link with the killer and know it was an accident, right?
Good Lord, whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Also, if you really think that most hit-and-runs are premeditated or purposeful acts of violence, you need to watch less TV.
Look, I was just calling Kitty out on assuming the intentions of the person. I know it was most likely an accident, but that doesn't give them the right to go around and kill people because "Whoops, I didn't mean to!". Is that supposed to make it all better? That they didn't mean to? And don't worry, I'm fine with innocent until proven guilty (even if in most people's minds it's "Guilty if I say so and people are morons for not agreeing with me"). I'm saying find out who killed her and then do this.
 

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HG131 said:
lacktheknack said:
HG131 said:
Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!

OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
Because as we all know, you have a psychic link with the killer and know it was an accident, right?
Good Lord, whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?

Also, if you really think that most hit-and-runs are premeditated or purposeful acts of violence, you need to watch less TV.
Look, I was just calling Kitty out on assuming the intentions of the person. I know it was most likely an accident, but that doesn't give them the right to go around and kill people because "Whoops, I didn't mean to!". Is that supposed to make it all better? That they didn't mean to? And don't worry, I'm fine with innocent until proven guilty (even if in most people's minds it's "Guilty if I say so and people are morons for not agreeing with me"). I'm saying find out who killed her and then do this.
So, torture the man who ran over someone, probably by accident?

Play "Amnesia: The Dark Descent", reading EVERY SINGLE WORD of the written stuff, then get back to me.
 

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Oh dear.. that's terrible.
I hope her killer serves justice.

I know, not very original.. but that's what I think o:
 

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I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
How very sensitive.

This is such a selfish waste of life. I hope that driver gets what's coming to them.
 

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If she is behind wrath of the lich king then this is over due.
In all seriousness though what a waste of life, working on games like wrath and Infamous. She could have worked for Epic and helped develop Gears 3 :<
If that's how you feel, go back to chainsawing people and screaming insults at the top of your lungs on the XBox because I don't want to hear anything you have to say anymore.
 

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Wow. What kinda jackass hit and runs like that?

WHY would you hit someone like that? She didn't deserve it.

Sometimes I hate this world.
It would more than likely have been an accidental collision, but rather than take responsibility the driver fled and left her for dead. That's usually how it is.
 

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This is terrible! :( I hope the LAPD can take time out of their busy schedule extorting of writing traffic tickets to bust this dipshit.
 

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Unfortunately the jackass isn't going to get what he deserves as vehicular homicide never carries the same penalty as if the person was killed with a gun, knife, or lead pipe.
I for one care no matter what projects she had. What is important is she had this job, had dreams and goals and this person took them all away. Who are we to judge a person's worth to the world by what they have contributed?
This is a very sad day.
 

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OT, my sincere condolences to her friends and family, and to her coworkers in the industry. It's always difficult to lose someone, especially in so senseless a fashion, and I hope the party responsible is found and tried to help bring some measure of closure to them in this time of grief.

But more so over... you'll forgive me if this sounds naive, but what the hell is WRONG with some of you? Saying her death isn't worth mention? That 'she wasted her life' working on those games? That you wish OTHER people had died instead/too? Good gravy, I hope and pray no one who knows her goes on this site. I really do. Or at the very least, that they stay way the hell away from the comment thread. You people really know how to rub lemon juice and salt in the wounds.
 

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HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!

OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
Captain Kitty, I am once again amazed by your awesomeness.

OT: I hope the killer will face the consequences, just like any killer of any person should.
 

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If I don't personally know the person or if they haven't worked on something I've enjoyed (in this case Killzone 2), I don't care.

They say accident, I say dumb ************ got drunk or something and herp-derped that he could drive home, or there was something else going on.

Do you really think anybody actually cares, save for the people who knew her personally? If so, you're quite... I think naive works here, possibly blissfully oblivious.
If they are an actual human being then yes you should be able to care when someone you do not know is killed in a hit and run. Though I do understand your anger at the individual responsible. I had a good friend who was killed in a hit and run last summer and no one was ever arrested for it even though a woman (who we were pretty sure was covering for one of her kids or something) came forward and claimed responsibility. Ever since then hit and runs have held a special place in the rage inducing part of my brain.
 

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Judging from the picture she seems to have been a lovely girl, unfortunate news.

An now Chris Metzen is just going to voice every character in wow. I can just see it.
 

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Sad news. May the driver be found, and found liable. Peace unto her and her kin.

...I hope her date went well...
 

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OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
They are making special note because it was someone that was somewhat important in the gaming community. Also, a hit-and-run is a very serious crime, especially when it involves a death. When the person gets caught, he/she will spend a very long time in jail, which they rightfully deserve.
 

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I personally think Wrath was the worst thing to ever happen to WoW, but...Damn. I hope they find the person that did this. I'd like to kick the crap out of them for running.
 

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They have to know they hit something, or they were too drunk to know. They'd still have damage to the vehicle if they were drunk. They should at least turn themselves in under suspicion if drunk and if lucid, they didn't give a damn about the person they mowed down. That kind of person deserves no mercy.
First of all, this was an article posted at 9:30 this morning, about an event that happened 8 hours before. If the person was drunk, (s)he may not have even been awake by the time this article was written, having passed out from all the alcohol they imbibed (and if (s)he was REALLY drunk, even once (s)he woke up, (s)he may have no memory of the night before, may still be incapable of thinking clearly, aka, may be unable to realize (s)he may have run someone over with his/her sedan, etc). It's kinda ridiculous to assume that no matter the state (s)he was in that night, the perpetrator would be in the right mindset to confess 7-8 hours later. Which is NOT an attempt to excuse the hit-and-run, but an attempt to point out reality isn't as black-and-white as you're making it seem. And if you're so quick to accept the over-simplistic "If they didn't confess 8 hours after then they must be pure evil," it reveals a bit about where your priorities are (i.e., not in finding true justice, but in delivering your brand of it).

But even more importantly, let's assume for the sake of discussion that the person who did it is just a horrible person who wasn't even drunk, hit the victim while looking away from the road, and just drove away because (s)he didn't want to go to jail. It makes NO sense to justify inhumane behavior by saying, "This person did something awful, so I'm now entitled to have something even worse done to him/her, because I think I'm now morally superior to him/her." What does it say about you, that you think it's not wrong to suggest torturing a person who may have accidentally killed a person, and that you think you're better than the person you'd be torturing?
 

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Requiescat in Pace.
Anyways, this is really terrible! But because it's a Black Sedan and that it was someone famous....anyone else suspect a pissed off gamer who didn't like the voice acting? I do.
 

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I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
Same here. Killzone 2's cast was brilliant!

Of course, I care about the death, but as a WoW hater...haters gonna hate. xD
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
JediMB said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
I'm detecting three kinds of fucked up in this post.

1) Not caring about a person's death until involvement with a specific game is mentioned.

2) Wishing gruesome death upon the person responsible for what is deemed to be an accident.

3) Offering condolences when you don't actually care.


Other than that, all I can say on the news report itself is that fleeing from the scene of an accident is a cowardly act, so I hope the person in question is found and held responsible for his/her actions.
If I don't personally know the person or if they haven't worked on something I've enjoyed (in this case Killzone 2), I don't care.

They say accident, I say dumb ************ got drunk or something and herp-derped that he could drive home, or there was something else going on.

Do you really think anybody actually cares, save for the people who knew her personally? If so, you're quite... I think naive works here, possibly blissfully oblivious.
"Yes and worser things could have been said like....
Wait she was working on the new Mortal Combat Reboot?
FATALITY!
THAT would have been insensitive!"

RIP
 

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I don't care what any of you say it is always, ALWAYS, sad when a person dies needlessly. I don't care if it's my mum or a total stranger; when a life is cut short is always a tragedy. While the effects it has on others might be different that does not change the fact that someone died.
 

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awww fuck no.... why man... she did such great games...

i hate goddam people on the wheels... im a driver myself and ive encountered the most retard people in the world... from old guys that drive slowly has hell, to stupid women driving with a cellphone in one hand and a cigar in the other...... it only makes me want to punch someone!!!!
 

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If she is behind wrath of the lich king then this is over due.
In all seriousness though what a waste of life, working on games like wrath and Infamous. She could have worked for Epic and helped develop Gears 3 :<
jackpipsam said:
alot of crap games, so god was all like "kill her"
Wow, when people say stuff like this it makes me sick. Doesn't matter if it was intentional or meant as a joke, it makes me sick.

My faith in humanity went way down.

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And on the discussion about giving condolences meaning nothing when you don't know the person, that in reality the people that do it don't care or feel anything, that is wrong.

I had never heard of Brigitte Burdine before today, but I still felt something when I read about her death. I got that bad sinking feeling that goes from the heart down. It is a tragedy.

I give my condolences to the family. Even if they don't see this thread on here, it doesn't mean it doesn't matter. I do care. I feel sorry for people that don't feel anything when they hear about a tragic loss.
 

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I was gonna post something like "Ha I bet it was an angry WOW player trying to get back at the creators for deleting his account". But after reading this, I realise how stupid that is...
I thought Killzone 2 and infamous had some pretty good voice actors though so this is a shame from a gaming point of view. But its a shame anyway you look at it. I just hope it was an accident and I am totally wrong about the crazed WOW player.
Yeah that is cosmically dumb for someone to say such a thing. Good thing you didn't!
 

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Having followed 'Shamus Plays WoW: Cataclysm' the only tragety here is the loss of human life, not the loss of a WoW developer; the fewer of those the better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgeM_RAris
 

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So here's the best thing to do. Hunt down the killer and introduce him to a few old friends of Burdine. The Lich King, Cole Mcgrath, and Scorpian.
 

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This is just horrible. I hope the driver rots in jail.My faith in humanity just keeps dropping.
 

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Do you really think anybody actually cares, save for the people who knew her personally? If so, you're quite... I think naive works here, possibly blissfully oblivious.
Reasonable enough, but your original comment was still in poor taste.
 

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I'm so sorry to hear this. I've worked on big projects before, and casting directors are insanely helpful. (They can be insane too, but I think that comes with any job.) Infamous and World of Warcraft were really fun. (The voice acting in both were great.) May she rest in peace.
 

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What's worse than running someone over? Being so scared of being in trouble that your cowardly self doesn't even stop to take responsibility for what you just did.
That's just terrible.

I also feel bad that the only reason I noticed this person's death was because they worked in the field which happens to be my hobby.

Requisite in pace.
 

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Taking the life of a killer isn't murder in my books anyways. It's garbage disposal.
Once again, if you somehow rationalize grievously injuring someone with a vehicle and going on to torture them to 'pain beyond our comprehension' you are either insane, or extremely misguided.
 

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Did she drop any good loot?
Oh, that's just tasteless.

I was gonna ask if it was Deathwing, and if so, was achievement credit handed out?
 

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JediMB said:
Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
I'm detecting three kinds of fucked up in this post.

1) Not caring about a person's death until involvement with a specific game is mentioned.

2) Wishing gruesome death upon the person responsible for what is deemed to be an accident.

3) Offering condolences when you don't actually care.


Other than that, all I can say on the news report itself is that fleeing from the scene of an accident is a cowardly act, so I hope the person in question is found and held responsible for his/her actions.
Cowardly or not some people panic and just run when they do something like this.


Random side note: Nice Faiz(555) avatar I hear thats the most Grimdark of the Riders so far.
 

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Wow.. someone is killed and a flame war starts on the comments page...

I hope the person who did it is found, locked away and never released... it's one thing accidentally hitting someone, but another to flee because of fear of punishment.

Condolences to her friends and family.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
Taking the life of a killer isn't murder in my books anyways. It's garbage disposal.
Once again, if you somehow rationalize grievously injuring someone with a vehicle and going on to torture them to 'pain beyond our comprehension' you are either insane, or extremely misguided.
You know what? Lets just agree to disagree on this, ok?
 

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HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
These kinds always come out of the woodwork in these threads. Those the little cauldrons of bloodlust just frothing for a self-righteous excuse to let their suppressed sadism fly free.
 

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Pirate Kitty said:
HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!

OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
The fact he would flee after killing another human being makes him scum, and while torturing him isn't the correct thing to do, he should have a punishment for his filthy behavior.
Even if people die every day, it does not lessen the impact of a death...especially when that person was working on killzone 2 (Kidding).
 

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esin said:
HG131 said:
I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
These kinds always come out of the woodwork in these threads. Those the little cauldrons of bloodlust just frothing for a self-righteous excuse to let their suppressed sadism fly free.
Suppressed? What are you talking about?
 

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My condolences.

EDIT: Guys... where is the respect for the dead? This is about a great person in the gaming industry that died, and everyone is just flaming at eachother.
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.

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-.-

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Really?!?!
So if this person wasn't involved with KZ2 then it's just meh news but because KZ2 is on the table we treat them like a human being?

Loloflcopter
 

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Taking the life of a killer isn't murder in my books anyways. It's garbage disposal.
I agree. It's annoying when people say 'your lowering yourself to their level' or 'you have to treat them like a human being'. Bullshit I say. They didn't care enough to treat others with decency so why do they deserve the same? Eye for an eye.
 

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My condolences to her family and truly hope they catch the bastard or ***** responsible for this. Drunk driving is the worst way to go because having the courage to say "no" to driving would have saved this woman's life.
 

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Jewrean said:
HG131 said:
Taking the life of a killer isn't murder in my books anyways. It's garbage disposal.
I agree. It's annoying when people say 'your lowering yourself to their level' or 'you have to treat them like a human being'. Bullshit I say. They didn't care enough to treat others with decency so why do they deserve the same? Eye for an eye.
It's nice to see a person who is thinking straight on here.
 

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Eye for an eye.
...And the whole world goes blind. From an endless chain of justified reprisals.

"An eye for an eye" being a really bad principle isn't exactly news at this point. Supposedly some great religious figure realized that nearly 2000 years ago.
 

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Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like there's really anything to go on. The cops couldn't even provide a model. Hopefully they catch the guy, because hit and run is always horrid, but I'm afraid the world doesn't really work like CSI.
 

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that picture is just disturbing, how the waffle stares at her


I suspect the waffle

I do indeed
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
I didn't care until I read "Killzone 2". I hope the bastard responsible is ripped apart by cop cars.

My condolences to her friends and family.
Oh man what a ***** who cares about OH WAIT KILLZONE 2 THAT MAKES HER DEATH TRAGIC NOW!

...that's pretty fucking shallow, man. It doesn't matter what work she has done in the past - her death was a truly awful state of events there. Hit and runs are the most unnatural and painful way to die.
 

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Taking the life of a killer isn't murder in my books anyways. It's garbage disposal.
Who are you, Rorschach? "Men go to prison. <link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45V6db9CKcc>Dogs get put down."
 

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I really don't care, I never knew who she were or anything and It's yust one brick less in the wall. But I can understand it's horrible for her family and the guy who killed her really needs a big fat punishment.
 

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Andy of Comix Inc said:
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Taking the life of a killer isn't murder in my books anyways. It's garbage disposal.
Who are you, Rorschach? "Men go to prison. <link=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45V6db9CKcc>Dogs get put down."
"Never disposed of sewage in toilet before. Obvious really."
 

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This is certainly a shame. My condolences to her family and friends. I hope those responsible are brought to justice.
 

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Eye for an eye.
...And the whole world goes blind. From an endless chain of justified reprisals.

"An eye for an eye" being a really bad principle isn't exactly news at this point. Supposedly some great religious figure realized that nearly 2000 years ago.
No need to go on a retarded moral crusade about it. It's quite simple really. If someone is a baby-mutilating child rapist serial mass murderer then you execute them. Simple. There is simply no way they will be rehabilitated. If there is no chance of rehabilitation then that means there is something seriously wrong with them psychologically. So what do we humans do? We spend thousands, no, millions of tax payers dollars so these psychopaths can stay alive and watch cable TV in prison.

OBVIOUSLY not all prisoners are like this, but many deserve death.
 

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Jewrean said:
JediMB said:
Jewrean said:
Eye for an eye.
...And the whole world goes blind. From an endless chain of justified reprisals.

"An eye for an eye" being a really bad principle isn't exactly news at this point. Supposedly some great religious figure realized that nearly 2000 years ago.
No need to go on a retarded moral crusade about it. It's quite simple really. If someone is a baby-mutilating child rapist serial mass murderer then you execute them. Simple. There is simply no way they will be rehabilitated. If there is no chance of rehabilitation then that means there is seriously wrong with them psychologically. So what do we humans do? We spend thousands, no, millions of tax payers dollars so these psychopaths can stay alive and watch cable TV in prison.

OBVIOUSLY not all prisoners are like this, but many deserve death.
Luckily we're not talking about a baby-mutilating child rapist serial mass murderer here.

Not to mention that the problem with capital punishment is that an execution cannot be undone if it turns out later that the sentenced was in reality innocent. That's more common than one would like to think.
 

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JediMB said:
Jewrean said:
JediMB said:
Jewrean said:
Eye for an eye.
...And the whole world goes blind. From an endless chain of justified reprisals.

"An eye for an eye" being a really bad principle isn't exactly news at this point. Supposedly some great religious figure realized that nearly 2000 years ago.
No need to go on a retarded moral crusade about it. It's quite simple really. If someone is a baby-mutilating child rapist serial mass murderer then you execute them. Simple. There is simply no way they will be rehabilitated. If there is no chance of rehabilitation then that means there is seriously wrong with them psychologically. So what do we humans do? We spend thousands, no, millions of tax payers dollars so these psychopaths can stay alive and watch cable TV in prison.

OBVIOUSLY not all prisoners are like this, but many deserve death.
Luckily we're not talking about a baby-mutilating child rapist serial mass murderer here.

Not to mention that the problem with capital punishment is that an execution cannot be undone if it turns out later that the sentenced was in reality innocent. That's more common than one would like to think.
But hypothetically let's say we are talking about this baby-murderer for a second. Are you saying that the death sentence should be abolished world-wide regardless of the crime and that this man remains in prison (possibly with a chance of being freed)?
 

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Jewrean said:
JediMB said:
Jewrean said:
JediMB said:
Jewrean said:
Eye for an eye.
...And the whole world goes blind. From an endless chain of justified reprisals.

"An eye for an eye" being a really bad principle isn't exactly news at this point. Supposedly some great religious figure realized that nearly 2000 years ago.
No need to go on a retarded moral crusade about it. It's quite simple really. If someone is a baby-mutilating child rapist serial mass murderer then you execute them. Simple. There is simply no way they will be rehabilitated. If there is no chance of rehabilitation then that means there is seriously wrong with them psychologically. So what do we humans do? We spend thousands, no, millions of tax payers dollars so these psychopaths can stay alive and watch cable TV in prison.

OBVIOUSLY not all prisoners are like this, but many deserve death.
Luckily we're not talking about a baby-mutilating child rapist serial mass murderer here.

Not to mention that the problem with capital punishment is that an execution cannot be undone if it turns out later that the sentenced was in reality innocent. That's more common than one would like to think.
But hypothetically let's say we are talking about this baby-murderer for a second. Are you saying that the death sentence should be abolished world-wide regardless of the crime and that this man remains in prison (possibly with a chance of being freed)?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29552692/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

"The costs come in basically three ways. First, the actual trial is more expensive. It is more expensive because of a lot of factors. One is that the defense gets at least two attorneys and state laws have guidelines on how much experience these attorneys must have - more experienced attorney's get paid more. Another factor for trials are the security - death penalty cases get more security, and another factor is the length of the trial - death penalty cases tend to be longer. Second, the appeals process. People sentenced to death get a huge number of appeals. Each of those appeals require more attorneys - the experienced attorneys. Security remains a factor and that costs a lot to bring death row inmates to Court and ensure they don't escape. Finally, death row is a much more secure setting than general prisons. The inmates are housed individually, costing more and they are usually staffed at higher levels.

So, in other words, the trial costs more, the appeals cost more, and it costs more to house them.

Add to it the fact that most death row inmates wait 9-12 years to be executed, you end up spending lots more to house them."
^-someone who worked 10 years corrections / probation experience ... 2 years working on death row in AZ -- http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090307224849AA5J1he

http://www.fnsa.org/v1n1/dieter1.html

http://law.jrank.org/pages/5002/Capital-Punishment-COSTS-CAPITAL-PUNISHMENT.html

Look around; it's actually more expensive to use capital punishment than it is to keep someone in prison for life. It is not for -you- to decide who lives or who dies. That is not your place, and quite frankly I don't believe even the government has that place. There certainly is no need to go on a very random hyperbole-filled tangent just to argue for 'an eye for an eye.' As most people can tell you "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

OT: Sad to see that the gaming industry loses someone and sad to see that there's yet another loss of human life caused by an accident. I wonder more about the circumstances and really hope that the person who did this can take responsibility as they should have in the first place.

My condolences to the family and friends.
 

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What I find funny about this post is that people here wants the driver dead or tortured without knowing what exactly happened.
Other people are calling him coward for running away and other names when they would probably do the same or just least be very histarical about running someone ove, and then there are people that calling others that give condolences dishonest because they don't really care.

You have to wonder though, if they didn't care, why give condolences if they didn't care?
A person that gives condolences cares a little and its hard to care about someone you don't know.

If you get scared from a tramatic event (say hitting someone with your car) and act before you think carefully then you are just as much a coward and scum as the driver. Also, add hipocracy for good measure.

A person that commits hit-and-run and manslaughter would get at least 20 to 35 year in prison (if i'm added the year up right) if convicted and jail is pretty much torture so people that want him tortured be happy or be quiet.

A person that commits hit-and-run and 1st degree murder with get life in prison to death. So peolpe that want him dead *throws black and red confetty* congratz, he will be put to death or waste away in jail.
Are you happy now?

Now... can we please just have this thread calm down.

Also, how come the death of something (human, animal,etc,) causes people's logic to short-circuit?
 

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RIP.

The world's a little darker when a gaming light is snuffed out. I'm very saddened by this news.
 

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OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
Ugh. I can't stand this view point. Perhaps the reason there is a "special note" being made of "this individual" (which I must say, sounds pretty rude) is because she is involved in the video game industry and this website is about video games. If we were on a swimming website and Michael Phelps died, we'd be having in depth discussions about that.

Considering much of the article is involved in giving the police information into what exactly happened and who did it, I think it's a little morally irresponsible to simply say a slightly more wordy version of "meh".

This lady has been killed. As far as I'm aware, most hit-and-runs are reported in the news paper.
 

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But Michael Phels is hard to replace. There are many thousands of people to do her job.
So there shouldn't be an article detailing the events of her hit and run so people can contact the police and help with the investigation? Like I said, I'm pretty sure the overwhelming majority of all hit-and-runs are reported in the news paper.

In regards to why there is a thread about her here, it's simply because she was involved in the industry this website is involved in.
 

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Poor girl. All that work just to lead to this, and right after Christmas.

Here's to hoping the killer is caught soon.
 

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If she is behind wrath of the lich king then this is over due.
In all seriousness though what a waste of life, working on games like wrath and Infamous. She could have worked for Epic and helped develop Gears 3 :<
If that's how you feel, go back to chainsawing people and screaming insults at the top of your lungs on the XBox because I don't want to hear anything you have to say anymore.
"I don't want to hear anything you have to say anymore."

Im sure that neurotic whiney strangers I have never encountered before now, not wanting to ever speak to me again is something I will lose sleep over in the coming years. I should call a psychiatrist now to help prepare for the coming depression I will surely feel when I lie awake at night thinking about how you, a total stranger I couldnt care less about, doesnt want to read what I write anymore.

Side note, you might sit screaming insults at people online (judging from your exceptionally condescending responce from up there on the "Morale highground"), however if its ok with you I'll stick to speaking in a civilised manner to people and being my usual friendly self =)

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Wow, when people say stuff like this it makes me sick. Doesn't matter if it was intentional or meant as a joke, it makes me sick.

My faith in humanity went way down.

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And on the discussion about giving condolences meaning nothing when you don't know the person, that in reality the people that do it don't care or feel anything, that is wrong.

I had never heard of Brigitte Burdine before today, but I still felt something when I read about her death. I got that bad sinking feeling that goes from the heart down. It is a tragedy.

I give my condolences to the family. Even if they don't see this thread on here, it doesn't mean it doesn't matter. I do care. I feel sorry for people that don't feel anything when they hear about a tragic loss.
Seriously, your faith in humanity has decreased because 2 randomers online made insensitive jokes about someone they have no logical reason to care about?

My advice is cancel your connection to the internet, sell your TV and stay away from newspapers else you will end up slitting your wrist when you read about stuff like children starving to death in 3rd world nations, the state of religious upheavel in africa and the middle east and the sheer nummber of homeless around the world who have to sleep in the ice cold streets.

"I had never heard of Brigitte Burdine before today, but I still felt something when I read about her death. I got that bad sinking feeling that goes from the heart down. It is a tragedy."

Empathy is perfectly acceptable. If I met her family in real life and they brought it up I would say "Yeah its terrible how she died," however Im more likely to win a best actor award ahead of legend Johnny Depp than I am to meet her family and considering its gaming related on a gaming news site you may want to revaluate your attitude toward your fellow gamers considering the subculture isnt known for its soft nature.

Also take into consideration your description of your feelings when you learned of this event, That isnt healthy and you really should see a psych considering that feelings like that over random strangers can only mean that you're either depressed or heading that way (no joke or insult intended)

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Why are people getting so zealous about this?
Scanning over the responces to this thread everyone seems to be up in arms about her passing.
Granted it wasnt cool how she died and the guy should be arrested but seriously you guys need to calm down. People die every day and if you cant cope with this one story then watching the 10 o'clock news is going to send you into a major downer.
 

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What a horrible way to go, struck down accidentally only for the bloody coward to flee the scene.

I hope they catch the bugger that did this and hold him/her responsible for their actions.
 

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well that sucks. when wow gets successful because of cataclysm, she dies..
 

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I think someone should hit-and-run the killer. But don't kill him. Grab him and torture him. Killing a person, unless they REALLY deserved it (which this woman did not) is something deserving of pain to levels we can't imagine.
Hypocritical, much?

So, it's okay to run over a person on purpose and torture them because they accidentally killed someone. But it's not okay to run over someone accidentally and flee.

Amazing logic!
I hate myself a little for bothering to respond to you.

Accident or no, it's the running off that ends people's sympathy. Accidents happen, but running off? Not taking responsibility? Letting a family suffer not only with loss, but not being able to face the killer, or even give them a chance to move on?

And you're saying it IS ok to run someone over accidentally and flee? Your logic sucks far more, punk.
 

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Sorry for the double post, my HTML really isn't what it should be.

Dragunai said:
Xealeon said:
OT:

Why are people getting so zealous about this?
Scanning over the responces to this thread everyone seems to be up in arms about her passing.
I think it's the nature of it, a young woman, hit and run, just after xmas, who had an active role in something that's important to our (sub?)culture. As gamers, we're not heartless. That's half the argument behind 'games don't promote violence', that we're capable of empathising and not desensitised to violence. However, all the calls of 'burn the driver's family alive!' don't help much.

To me, I think it sucks that she died and that the driver skipped out on even trying to help. For all we know, if they'd stopped, she might have lived. That's what's painful about it.
 

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GunstarHero said:
Dragunai said:
OT:

Why are people getting so zealous about this?
Scanning over the responces to this thread everyone seems to be up in arms about her passing.
I think it's the nature of it, a young woman, hit and run, just after xmas, who had an active role in something that's important to our (sub?)culture. As gamers, we're not heartless. That's half the argument behind 'games don't promote violence', that we're capable of empathising and not desensitised to violence. However, all the calls of 'burn the driver's family alive!' don't help much.

To me, I think it sucks that she died and that the driver skipped out on even trying to help. For all we know, if they'd stopped, she might have lived. That's what's painful about it.
I think you make a strong point about the violence in games and the reality of how it affects us. I still agree that it is a travesty and yes the person who did it probably IS a massive coward or just a scumbag although you will probably find the car was stolen or the guy was on parole or something equally low for someone to leave an innocent human to die after he caused her the injury.

My thought was purely: Why is everyone taking it so personally?

I saw my 1st dead body was I was 6 and still living in South Africa (in person not on tv) and it didn't phase me (no joke) so I cant blame games for my lack of feeling on the topic of death. Its just something I grew up with.

Still it is tragic to think she could have been saved if just one person had been there to help but Im still not going to sit and cry because some person I dont know died. There is respecting the dead and then there is going too far.
 

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It's weird that the only picture of her they found suitable to use was the one of her sitting next to a giant waffle.
LOL comment made my day.

And well, casting director sure is a dangerous job.
 

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Hit and runs are all too frequent...

I hope the person responsible is brought to justice swiftly.
 

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Fuck. Saw an interview of her once about Infamous, me thinks. She stroke me as a fine lass. When I saw the title, I thought it had something to do with an upcoming movie or something. Seeing as she worked for The Lich King, I am pretty sure the perpetrator was a fanboy that got pissed. Either that or a stupid drunk driver.

I can't say I was 'AAAH, she died!' but I didn't go all 'meh, so what?' either. I have a pretty big respect for Sucker Punch and Blizzard and I hope whoever did this gets to see really big steel bars, really soon. You do not have to know someone to feel sorry for his death and send condolences. It is called being human. Just a piece of advice for potential bigots out there. I am truly sorry I had to learn about her like this cause someone that helped to expertly voice Cole McGrath in InFamous, cannot, in any definition of the word, be a bad person.

Oh God, her sister just made a plea to the murder to turn himself in. Kind of a longshot but I really hope it sticks.
 

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Hit and Runs are one of the saddest crimes. You don't even bloody know them and you kill the person!

Very sad news, even though I don't know her she helped make good games.
My condolences
 

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OT: People die every day. I see no reason to make special note of this individual.
I agree, people do die all the time.

However, I think because it's a gaming wesbite, and she worked in the industry, she has recieved special notice.

I feel for her family and friends, that's got to be hard to deal with.
 

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I had a friend die under similar circumstances. The driver that killed my friend was eventually discovered but nothing really significant came of it as far as legal consequences.

Pedestrians really shouldn't be walking about that time of night.
 

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Some of the reactions in here are horrid. Take my faith in humanity down a few notches, why don't you?

This is sad news indeed. I wonder if Blizzard will put a memorial in game for her. She deserves no less; her work was fantastic and she is credit to team.

My heartfelt feelings go out to her family and people close to her. Rest in peace, you will be missed.