Worst plot twist you have ever seen in your life

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But that would defeat the purpose of the whole adaptation. Clannad (the VN) became successful to the point of being considered one of the must-read classics both in Japan and the West because of the emotional impact of its ending, which required both the gut-punch of the normal ending and the catharsis of getting all the wishes to change it to succeed. It was this same success that allowed it to get an anime adaptation on the first place, so changing the source of the success during the adaptation would have been akin to the Star Trek movies not featuring any spaceships or the main characters from the series.

The real issue is that Key (the developer of Clannad) used the interactivity of the medium to paint the fourth wall and in a way involved the reader in the process of getting the true ending to further enhance the emotional impact of the finale. There is no way to transfer that into a non-interactive medium, so all Kyoto Animation could do was to take the narrative and stick to it as close as they could and hope for the best.

So again: The Clannad anime's ending is less of a case of a botched twist (it wasn't even any kind of twist in the original to begin with) and more about how trying to adapt an interactive fiction where the interactivity is part of a meta-plot into a non-interactive medium is a stillborn idea to begin with.
True enough, but I still think if they had ended the series at the point where he decides to take care of his daughter it would have had a similar impact to the actual ending without feeling like bullshit, I don't know I mean I guess they did what they could considering how pissy people get when they make changes to the source material, I guess I'm of the few people that don't mind much at all.
Well, there was an anime movie that came out a few years prior, from a different studio, that had a different ending.

That movie's not very good, though.
 

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[Kira Must Die said:
]Well, there was an anime movie that came out a few years prior, from a different studio, that had a different ending.

That movie's not very good, though.
I do like Kyoto Animation though, I just don't like the ending, they normally have extremely fluid animation and they pay a lot of attention to detail, not to mention that they do beautiful backgrounds, they're pretty good at what they do though I don't like a lot of their character designs, then again my Avatar is from a Kyoto Animation show.

As for the movie, I think I'll pass :p
 

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[Kira Must Die said:
]Well, there was an anime movie that came out a few years prior, from a different studio, that had a different ending.

That movie's not very good, though.
I do like Kyoto Animation though, I just don't like the ending, they normally have extremely fluid animation and they pay a lot of attention to detail, not to mention that they do beautiful backgrounds, they're pretty good at what they do though I don't like a lot of their character designs, then again my Avatar is from a Kyoto Animation show.

As for the movie, I think I'll pass :p
I like KyoAni, too, despite not keeping up with their stuff lately. I loved Clannad, despite its ending, though. I felt the whole of the series made up for its conclusion.

I didn't really mind the ending all that much, though. I always felt that Clannad was more about emotion rather than logic, but in a good way. You can argue how the ending made no sense, but I can't deny that I felt an immense sense of joy and relief at the same time. I liked the characters enough that I wanted them to be happy, so that was one of those moments where I went with my gut feeling rather than my brain.

The movie has a more reasonable ending, but again, the films as a whole isn't good, as it's super condensed and has worse animation.
 

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The Pacific Rim "Oh, by the way, this mech has had a sword this whoooooooooole time, and guess what? It is suuuuper effective!" plot device.

I mean, not only did it come absolutely out of nowhere, but it just ended up being way too effective to bring the whole former half of the movie into question. I mean, if all of these mechs are fitted with swords that can seemingly effortlessly hack these kaiju into pieces, then why was everybody running around slowly punching them to death? Especailly considering that there were like, what, 4 Jaegers left by the end of the film?

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The Pacific Rim sword
For that one they could have at least had the sword corrode after the fight and require replacement, but it reminded me of one that rustles my jimmies.

Jumper takes place in the U.S. of A, land of the free, home of the 'Junior, don't play with my gu*BANG*' but there's no guns. There's a handful of teleporters jumping around, and not one of them has a gun. The paranoid survivalist had what, a bat and a acetylene flamethrower? But not a gun. They go through a warzone in the climax, and nobody picks up a gun. This isn't a twist, his mom is a crusader or templar or whatever is a twist, and it's unnecessary, and bad, like the whole movie, but the gun thing is still something I can't get over.

If the chubby dude that got shanked on the tree near the start of the movie had tried to jump with a gun, only for it to explode in his hand leading to his capture THAT would have solved that. If the survivalist (I don't care about his name) had mentioned to the protagonist that anything volatile might explode in a jump, while he was explaining how important it was to keep a low profile WHILE TELEPORTING A CAR THROUGH TRAFFIC, that might have been ... something. I would have been happy with anything, but that movie was worse than nothing, and I wanted my money back. I still want my money back! :mad:
 

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I know it's not the worst twist ever but... the twist that most disappointed me has to be Star Ocean 2:Till the End of Time's midgame twist. It was just so... ANNOYING.
 

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Kingdom Hearts has a lot of stupid twists.

[KH II]
Ansem's back!
Except the real Ansem is dead, and this fake Ansem is just Riku in disquise.
... except it turns out that the real Ansem wasn't the real real Ansem - it was just a fake real Ansem using the real real Ansem's name the whole time! Real real Ansem has been in hiding this whole time! The fake real Ansem's name was actually Xehanort.
[KH:BBS]
... but Xehanort isn't the real Xehanort, just a fusion of the real Xehanort and some other bloke, who also lost his memory so fake Xehanort (who, remember, is also the fake real Ansem) doesn't even know he's the fake Xehanort!
[KH:DDD]
Real Xehanort is back from the past!
And so is fake Xehanort!
And so is real Xehanort... again, but from even further back in the past!
And now everyone in Orginization XIII is also Xehanort somehow!


Oh God. What? That's actually what happens? Wow, I'm glad I stopped after KH2.


Dont listen to him, he's making the storyline seem much more complicated than it honestly actually is.
 

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It was a terrible ending and a terrible example of writing, but let's be honest here, Video games don't really have good writing in general.
You really think that? There are plenty of games with great stories; ever play through KOTOR II's Restored Content Mod, Telltale's Walking Dead, or Red Dead Redemption?
 

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Well, I'm not sure if Mass Effect 3's ending counts as a twist, but it sure as fuck has all the elements of a bad one.

Let's recap:

The central conflict of the story so far is just a red haring. Your knew goal is to resolve the metaphysical conflict between organic and synthetic life.

You accomplish this via a machine built at an unspecified point in the past by persons unknown which, according to the very enemy you're trying to destroy, can alter all life in the galaxy on a molecular level in an unspecified way. And these mysterious past architects left control of this device to whatever dopey fuckwit happens to collapse in front of this particular command console, which apparently nobody has ever done before.

How do you use this machine? Well that depends on which mode it's in.

You can destroy all synthetic life in the galaxy, by blowing the fuck out of a tube with your gun. Keep in mind that nobody ever tells Shepard to do this; he or she apparently just deduced that, unlike most machines, blowing this fucking thing up will activate it, as opposed to, you know, blowing it the fuck up. An alternate interpretation would be that the good Commander has finally cracked, and is committing suicide via demolition and hopping to take the Reapers with them.

You can gain control of the Reapers by grabbing a pair of handles and letting the machine disintegrate you. You would think such a thing would certainly kill you, but I guess not. Oh, wait, it DOES kill you, it just also gives you complete control of the Reapers... somehow. "Trust me Shepard; what have I ever done to suggest I shouldn't be trusted. It's not like me and my colleagues have slaughtered countless numbers of your people or pushed you to the brink of extinction. Would I lie to you?"

But wait, there's more. The best option is to take a running leap into a giant green laser beam, which merges all organic and synthetic life in the galaxy... What? So everybody is just half robot now? And the reapers are apparently half organic? How is this even going to work? How does this fix anything? I thought the reapers were built out of liquefied people anyway, aren't they already sort of part organic? Are you just gonna magically transform EDI into a cyborg by replacing her internal organs? Would all children born be cyborgs now as well? Are you accounting for single celled organisms and bacteria, are they now "Synthetic" as well? Don't people with cybernetic enhancements already count as part synthetic? The catalyst said so just a moment ago. This fact hasn't stopped the Reapers so far, why would this change their mind?

And no matter what I do, the Mass Relays will explode? Just ONE Mass Relay blowing up caused an explosion comparable to that of a super nova. Even if we all survive that explosion, the best case scenario is that we all starve to death. Earth couldn't support this huge galactic armada in it's prime, let alone after what the Reapers did to it. That doesn't even account for the fact that some species, like the Turians, can't even eat the same food that humans do.

Why are the reapers even doing this?

Well, as it turns out, the Reapers, a race of synthetics, kill all space fairing species every 50'000 years, so that those same species will not be killed by synthetics... (Yo dawg, I heard you don't wanna be killed by synthetics, so I made some synthetics to kill you, so you won't be killed by synthetics)

Even if we assume this broad, unsubstantiated claim about all synthetics eventually destroying their creators is true, it doesn't change the fact that THE REAPERS ARE SYNTHETIC! By their own logic, they will eventually turn on organic life and wipe it out. This is fucking madness!

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic

I'm not even sure if this fucking thing counts as a story, let alone a twist, but it had all the effects of a bad twist; it comes right the fuck out of nowhere and lays waste to narrative coherence entirely.
 

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It's old enough that I'm not even going to put spoiler tags in this, but essentially the movie's "Spliced" individual goes from a girl who's most evil act is seducing someone, all the way to a boy who ends up raping his own biological mother (At best, Ick, at worst WHY!? Why would you write this!?) The complete and inexplicable tonal shift in the character is clumsy and horribly done, and makes me wonder if a warped ideologue wrote the character's role. It just makes a "Character who we all know will turn evil but we're not going to foreshadow it and just make it a sudden change!" shift, turns it up to eleven, and then indulges in gratuitous and unnecessary things to show us just how "EVIL!!!" this new boy version of the character is...
I'm really not trying to be abrasive or condescending, I just really liked the movie and am compelled to defend it. You know how it is :p

She actually did have character development: she gradually becomes more comfortable around her handlers and with her own body, and she starts questioning the nature of her "confinement". The twist was sudden because it was a biological development, not because her character just up and decided to join the "kill males, impregnate females" lifestyle. She's not evil for the same reason a lion isn't evil for killing zebra. Not evil: dangerous.

Additionally, the twist was foreshadowed twice: right at the start, when the supposedly male and female pair of proto-blobs attack each other because the female turned male and so they saw each other as a threat, and towards the end when, after drawing pictures of the male handler throughout the movie, splice-girl draws a picture of her "mum", indicating the object of her desire- and therefore her physiology- has changed.

Finally, the plot featured extremely mature themes, took them to the extreme, and did it well. "I was grossed out" isn't a comment on the quality of the plot, only your personal reaction to it.
 

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The plot twist for The Ward manages the impossible by being simultaneously predictable and unintelligible.
 

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Xenoblade Chronicles'

being explained by the fact that 2 random scientists accidentally created a universe.

was pretty bad. Didn't add anything to it and would've been better unexplained. Also

having a "god" who's just an annoying dick (Zanza) is not the best. God's should be scary or praiseworthy, everyone knows that.
 

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In Frozen the curse is lifted by true love. Love also includes familial love. So did the King and Queen not love their children then?
 

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I'd say that it comes from one of the worst movies I've every seen and only a handful which I had to physically stop watching because it was so terrible.

The culprit is a movie called D.E.B.S., and it is about a secret spy agency that employs teenage high school girls (played by actresses that look much older than teens and not in a Mighty Morphing Power Rangers way) to become spies and are recruited based on their SAT scores (I kid you not).

As if that premise didn't stop you from reading this post it only becomes more ridiculous.

It turns out that there's a lethal super female villain that is on the D.E.B.S. Top 10 Fugitives list and are tasked with capturing her. While proving to be a formidable opponent for both male and female agents, the villain becomes enamored with the female 'straight' lead and allows her to live upon their first encounter (a feat that has never been seen before and lands her instant fame).

The story goes on to have the villain kidnap the female lead several times in which she considers them to be dates and once the female lead catches on (seriously, she's that slow), she attempts to use the villain's affection against her and eventually is able to capture her.

Here's the twist: it turns out that the D.E.B.S. agents are selected by their SAT scores which only determine their level of deceptiveness and how convincing their deception is (how they determine this is never explained. Also, WTF!? SERIOUSLY!?).

Feeling bad for using the villain's emotions against her (???), she promptly busts her out and they ride into the sunset together, having been magically turned bi/gay.

I kid you not; this is an actually movie that had Michael Clarke Duncan in it and was on Netflix for some time.
 

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CharrHearted said:
WonkyWarmaiden said:
w23eer said:
Kingdom Hearts has a lot of stupid twists.

[KH II]
Ansem's back!
Except the real Ansem is dead, and this fake Ansem is just Riku in disquise.
... except it turns out that the real Ansem wasn't the real real Ansem - it was just a fake real Ansem using the real real Ansem's name the whole time! Real real Ansem has been in hiding this whole time! The fake real Ansem's name was actually Xehanort.
[KH:BBS]
... but Xehanort isn't the real Xehanort, just a fusion of the real Xehanort and some other bloke, who also lost his memory so fake Xehanort (who, remember, is also the fake real Ansem) doesn't even know he's the fake Xehanort!
[KH:DDD]
Real Xehanort is back from the past!
And so is fake Xehanort!
And so is real Xehanort... again, but from even further back in the past!
And now everyone in Orginization XIII is also Xehanort somehow!


Oh God. What? That's actually what happens? Wow, I'm glad I stopped after KH2.


Dont listen to him, he's making the storyline seem much more complicated than it honestly actually is.


I don't know, that seems like a pretty succinct and accurate summary to me.
 

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I'd say that it comes from one of the worst movies I've every seen and only a handful which I had to physically stop watching because it was so terrible.

The culprit is a movie called D.E.B.S., and it is about a secret spy agency that employs teenage high school girls (played by actresses that look much older than teens and not in a Mighty Morphing Power Rangers way) to become spies and are recruited based on their SAT scores (I kid you not).

As if that premise didn't stop you from reading this post it only becomes more ridiculous.

It turns out that there's a lethal super female villain that is on the D.E.B.S. Top 10 Fugitives list and are tasked with capturing her. While proving to be a formidable opponent for both male and female agents, the villain becomes enamored with the female 'straight' lead and allows her to live upon their first encounter (a feat that has never been seen before and lands her instant fame).

The story goes on to have the villain kidnap the female lead several times in which she considers them to be dates and once the female lead catches on (seriously, she's that slow), she attempts to use the villain's affection against her and eventually is able to capture her.

Here's the twist: it turns out that the D.E.B.S. agents are selected by their SAT scores which only determine their level of deceptiveness and how convincing their deception is (how they determine this is never explained. Also, WTF!? SERIOUSLY!?).

Feeling bad for using the villain's emotions against her (???), she promptly busts her out and they ride into the sunset together, having been magically turned bi/gay.

I kid you not; this is an actually movie that had Michael Clarke Duncan in it and was on Netflix for some time.
Oh shit! I remember watching this movie more than twice, each time making me laugh harder at how ridiculous the whole premise was in the first place... I even predicted the "straight" lead going gay/bi on my first viewing the moment both her and the female villain finally meet because it's a "romance" movie and the SAT twist felt more deceptive than the true purpose of said SAT... (Also, this movie was shown multiple times on IFC before and after their introduction to their "always on slightly off" slogan...)
 

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M Night Shyamalan The Village. As far as I can recall it was about some blind woman who had to stumble around in a forest to get medicine for her sick husband or something and then it turned out she actually lived in
the middle of a bloody nature reserve and that the town she was living in was some kind of Amish village and the elders made up some story about monsters or something to stop people leaving.
I thought it was dumb at the time, and age has not led me to think of the film any more fondly.
 

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I'd have to say Terminator Genisis (still refusing to spell that with a fucking Y).
Skynet turns John Connor into a Terminator in the future, then sent him back to work for Cyberdyne. Why not send some other Terminator back to work for Cyberdyne before the resistance are just about to kill you, one that isn't going to arouse suspicion from his best friend that just went back? Why not just kill the fucker? How the piss did they turn his flesh into a robot?
To be fair though, the film's plot is an incomprehensible mess, so it's not really anymore is it?

I know Terminator was always full of plotholes, but the old films were never this bad. Everything about Genesis can fuck off.
 

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The Village comes to mind. After absorbing the initial setting I asked myself, "What would be the worst possible twist ending to this?" 70 minutes later, Shyamalan delivered it.

The Mass Effect series' ending can suck a dick. Let me spend 90 hours making peace in the galaxy, then have some idiot AI we never saw before arbitrarily wipe out everything I did. Seems legit.
 

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Roboshi said:
In Frozen the curse is lifted by true love. Love also includes familial love. So did the King and Queen not love their children then?
Hm...I would say yes but at the same time they were also afraid of what Elsa can do, especially after Anna got hurt. So perhaps by whatever weird definition true love counts as in that world theirs didn't cut it. Anna on the other hand didn't care about the fact that her sister became a ice villain and essentially put a timer on her life, she was her sister and that was all that mattered to her. Not your classic case of true love but it fits.

And now I feel sappy. :p