WoW to Get Faction Change Feature

[Joeaverage]

Im sure that now certain factions will have a great majority in certain realms

You make that sound like a bad thing. On low pop servers the 2 faction system only screws over the players since it splits an already tiny playerbase. On high pop, there's some world pvp occasionally.

Other than that, what does 2 factions on a server really give? Even cross server BGs would be easy to arrange by assigning people to teams. If everyone tried gnome and never went back I mean...

 

[Samah]

Kinda glad, my time playing as an Night Elf Hunter has left me with one thought bore into my mind, Alliance sucks. Seriously Horde is just so much cooler, Alliance players in my experience are all small children wanting to play the hero. Horde characters on the other hand have realized this, and are using their characters to punch these small children in the face.

This.

We're outnumbered 3:1 A:H too on Proudmoore, so Wintergrasp is always a joke.

 

[Nostalgia]

Which shows that Alliance players aren't really dedicated to their side. They secretly want to play Horde. They show a false indifference to attempt to show superiority over those that feel that it doesn't matter.

Because it does.

If you don't understand why it matters what side you chose, you're an Alliance player, and you suck at PVP. That's just how it is.

Horde players don't feel like you just killed their dog. Horde players feel like they want to kill your dog. Because they're good at PVP.

Edit: Also, this idea is a terrible one. People always love to switch to the winning side. See common FPS behavior. CS, TF2, L4D, CoD, Quake, UT, doesn't matter. The same thing will happen here, just slowly over time. Not a good move =\.

No. Some people are truly indifferent because they aren't judgmental and bigoted.

If anything, you're being extremely defensive and close-minded. Horde players will always bring up that their side is much more superior to Alliance, blaming it because we have an over-abundance of kids, suck at PvP, or are too bland. These are all either opinionated or server/bggroup dependent issues. For a long time, Alliance had a much bigger population as well, so you come across a larger chance of encountering either bad or immature players.

The fact that I see Horde players almost outright deny to immaturity from their side at times (or blame it completely on Blood Elves), and completely judge someone for what they play in a video game is outright astounding. Things like, "he's not bad because he's a bad player, it's because he plays Alliance."

I played Horde pre-TBC, before the crack addicts were introduced, and still encountered very misanthropic players, all whom were very immature, and rude. I've killed and seen horrible players on Horde side throughout my server and battlegrounds. On average, as well, most Horde players I met and know IRL are teenagers and in their early 20's, which fits in nicely with the choice of races and attitude Horde breeds.
If anything, more kids would be on Horde side to feel a sense of false pride and self-esteem, due to bandwagon hate, out-casted races, and general brute appeal.

I still love the Horde races very much (HORDE races, fuck UD), but pre-TBC, I had bad experiences, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with preferring the Alliance, or hell, even enjoying it.
To believe that anything of what I said disqualifies any sort of positives from either factions is silly. You find great people on each side of the coin, and as long as you stick with them, and keep a positive attitude, you'll find nicer things to come.

 

[Mean Mother Rucker]

Which shows that Alliance players aren't really dedicated to their side. They secretly want to play Horde. They show a false indifference to attempt to show superiority over those that feel that it doesn't matter.

Because it does.

If you don't understand why it matters what side you chose, you're an Alliance player, and you suck at PVP. That's just how it is.

Horde players don't feel like you just killed their dog. Horde players feel like they want to kill your dog. Because they're good at PVP.

Edit: Also, this idea is a terrible one. People always love to switch to the winning side. See common FPS behavior. CS, TF2, L4D, CoD, Quake, UT, doesn't matter. The same thing will happen here, just slowly over time. Not a good move =\.

This type of bigotry is why we can't all live in peace. Haha, I kid. But really, no.

There is no point in arguing in which is better, because there are idiots, homophobes, the whole internet posse existing on both the Alliance and the Horde. Both are the different sides of the same coin. They look different, but they're pretty much the same.

I've played Alliance and found it to be quite nice, but I play Horde 'cause my friends play Horde. If anything, there are more of the ever-so famous "13-year olds" in the Horde, or at least on the servers I've played.

Back to the topic at hand, though. I find that if this is to work, it should strictly be race. To have faction switchers like the trolls and etc. to be in the Alliance and vice versa, would completely destroy the original mythos of Warcraft. Unless it's to face a common goal (i.e The Lich King, currently). Maybe the Argent Crusade teaches the Horde Common, and the Alliance Orcish... *muses*

'Cause I've been having this idea of mixed faction end-game raid.

In the end, though, this idea will be implemented, there'll be a few faction jumpers. End of story.

I'm kinda confused about how it'll work with PvP servers, though. Since you're only allowed to have characters of one faction per server, perhaps you'll have to change your whole character lineup.

 

[ElephantGuts]

I'm surprised because this sounds like a desperation move that a dying game would make in an attempt to keep its players as long as possible. And WoW, well...I don't know if WoW will ever even start to die. It certainly is still going strong now. So I don't know why they would feel the need to do something like this.

 

[Credge]

No. Some people are truly indifferent because they aren't judgmental and bigoted.

No they're not. Those that pass off the indifferentism aren't because they themselves pass judgement on those that are judgmental and bigoted.

Which results in them being judgmental and bigoted.

Making them hypocrites.

Meaning that both sides have the exact same type of people.

Which means Horde is better at PVP.

If anything, you're being extremely defensive and close-minded.

Satire, broseph.

It's funny because it's true, but it's true for different reasons than what I gave, but those reasons that I gave are the reasons that everyone thinks are the reasons.

Hence, it being satire.

 

[TheLastCylon]

I think only Blood Elves will leave the Horde.

 

[Credge]

This type of bigotry is why we can't all live in peace. Haha, I kid. But really, no.

There is no point in arguing in which is better, because there are idiots, homophobes, the whole internet posse existing on both the Alliance and the Horde. Both are the different sides of the same coin. They look different, but they're pretty much the same.

Hey! Someone gets it!

They also understand that horde is better at PVP.

 

[MrSnugglesworth]

Two rival factions? More like two peaceful communities farming instances peacefully while ocassionally making forced clashes for goods.

Bingo. I never felt we were "Opposing" we were more like "One side stole the others popsicle, so theres a little tension."

You obviously never played in the good old days of world PvP, where Hillsbarad Foothills was the battleground and the general consensus was: "If it's red, it's dead." Red meaning an Alliance player, obviously. Honestly though, I wouldn't change to Alliance even if Blizzard paid me. But I agree that the level of rivalry between the factions has diminished with the expansion packs. Which is a good thing, becaue there are no more level ?? dwarf paladins or nightelf hunters ganking my alts in Stranglethorn, and a bad thing because you lose the tension between equal level players trying to kill each other off in world PvP.

Am I the only person left who likes gnomes?

Yes.

I did play in the good old days. So I'll edit my post


"One side stole the other sides Ipod so theres alot of tension"

I was a level 60 troll shaman. I know what that pvp was like and it was frankly really boring.

 

[Computer-Noob]

Two rival factions? More like two peaceful communities farming instances peacefully while ocassionally making forced clashes for goods.

Someone has never played on Tichondrius...

 

[The Great JT]

This really has piqued my curiosity.

 

[nikosuave]

Kinda glad, my time playing as an Night Elf Hunter has left me with one thought bore into my mind, Alliance sucks. Seriously Horde is just so much cooler, Alliance players in my experience are all small children wanting to play the hero. Horde characters on the other hand have realized this, and are using their characters to punch these small children in the face.

Wow, I don't even know where to begin with how wrong this is.

Clearly you and I have had different luck in the game of WoW.

5 realms of alliance suckage doesn't lie to me. The hoarde is just always better.

 

[Flying-Emu]

This is going to wreak havoc on RP servers.

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To be fair, Funk, most people don't know any of the lore on RP servers. I had to hold a mini-lecture on how Arthas became the Lich King once.

I mean, c'mon. At least know a LITTLE bit about the world you supposedly live in, people.

This...intrigues me... only that the only Race I could change too on the horde side are those anorexic metros... Being a Paladin and all...Which is a shame. Picketing for a Troll Paladin Mon, ho yeah.

(It'll never happen, I know)

I'm quite okay with my female human paladin thanks muchly. People are rather surprised when I kick ass and thats a nice feeling, and no expectations for being any good either, schweet.

And on the by and by hordies, I owned a little tag team trio of you mf-s in Alterac last night, You guys are seriously badass, jump ONE alliance player. Who is normally dedicated to PvE. And lose. Yeah.

Some of us just like the story in WoW... and both sides are interesting to us.

You don't have to be good at WoW to win as a Paladin. At all.

 

[samsonguy920]

Well this sure as heck doesnt inspire me to re-up my subscription. I call it too little, too late, too..why would I want to?

I think it would be way cooler if you could have 'defectors'.
You know, playing a night-elf on the horde side.
Then you'd keep all of your gear, and mounts and everything!

And THAT would cause loads of whining.

Now that would be something that might get me in, since it would create a lot of juicy roleplay, new reasons for pvp outside of arenas, and interesting party mashups. Frankly what killed wow for me is Blizzard doesn't seem to get PvP. They'd rather engineer it as some arcade game than into the rpg structure, and just leave the open pvp to ganking.

why dont they just make it so we can change races on our OWN faction, that would be so much simpler, i hate my blood elf pansie *****

Because that would just be too easy. With as old as WoW is getting, maybe the Blizz team is feeling the need for a real challenge to implement something to keep the numbers up. Frankly I don't see why they shouldn't later go ahead and implement in-faction raceshifting since the engineering will be there.

Am I the only person left who likes gnomes?

I like gnomes, with some pepper and grilled tomatoes.

Something better and possibly more interesting might be implementing goblins as a third faction and playable race. Within this would be the ability to speak with all the races, as well as set up a real marketing structure and new feature to see who can bilk both factions of the most gold? *evil laugh*

 

[NeutralDrow]

Aww...I saw "Faction Change" feature, and I immediately thought "so my Troll Warrior could join the Alliance and my Human Warlock could join the Horde?!" O_O

No. Your character's race just changes.

That's disappointing. The idea sounds fine, don't get me wrong, but the labeling seems...pointless. This strikes me as just a race change feature limited to half the game. The faction walls are still there, thick and inviolate as ever. What a rip...

 

[Rhayn]

Bingo.

Tell an Alliance player you play Horde, it's like "Eh, ok, no big deal."

Tell a Horde player you play Alliance, it's like you just killed their dog.

Hehe, never though about that, but it's true.

Though I doubt anyone takes it seriously, but it does indeed seem like the Horde has more faction-pride, as it were.

On topic though, I'm a bit torn on this. While it is, eh, useful in certain situations, I don't think it was really needed, much like the feature change. I am however happy that I can make my human warlock into undead. Not that I actually want to right now, since I am very happy with my little blood elf pally.

Lore-wise it doesn't make sense in any other case than the human-to-undead transformation. But I suspect they'll come up with some half-arsed explanation, along the lines of "Goblin technology has now advanced so long, that they are now able to create artificial bodies for your mind!"

I imagine it'll work much like the Orb of Deception, making your gnome to a tauren, your blood elf to a draenei etc.

But meh, all-in-all, this is just one of those extra nifty little things that a certain group wanted, and Blizzard are cashing in on that. Good for them.