WoW to Get Faction Change Feature

[Nuke_em_05]

RP-ers probably won't do it.

If you've leveled on both sides, you probably won't do it.

If you've never been on the other side, you'd have a lot of adjusting to do as far as locations, quests, etc. It might be easier just to level a new character with the help of your established friends (that you would hypothetically switching for).

Does the current "recustomization" option involve race changes within the same faction? I didn't think it did, and I would figure that would be the next step before faction changes.

I don't think that class changes would come anytime soon, if at all.

I can't help but think of what might happen with arena/battleground stats, reputation, and the other race/faction specific things.

If they can pull it off and people want it, cool. Otherwise, it kind of seems like a waste of energy to me.

The idea of defectors,

Ala this post

Sounds like a good idea to me. I mean, they could even then have the aggro range and threat increased for defectors as they'll recognize you on the spot and use extreme prejudice as you are a traitor. Don't make it a sale or something, but have special quests where you can learn the opposing side's language and earn reputation with them. Even at that, maybe not neccesarily lose reputation with the other faction... then be like a double-agent, or just learn what is necessary from the other team, as well as understand them in chat.

Okay... time to lay off that one... starting to scare myself.

 

[Borrowed Time]

Nu-uh, the only time a gnome is involved in anything to do with the Horde is as the ball in sports matches.

Gnome punting FTW! I miss those days; started out horde and went to Alliance following friends on a new server. *Sigh* I still can't stand those gnomes.

 

[Grahwo]

Gawd.. no! all the whining alliance kids wil come to horde.. *cries*

 

[Tharwen]

This has to be a hoax.

Haven't Blizz said on the forums that this can't happen?

 

[Hoxton]

I'd call that 'Deserter Button'
Nuff' said.

 

[Altorin]

who honestly cares?

I've played WoW on and off for about 4 years, and I haven't met one person who's crying about this.

To the friends/guildmates of people who change their faction, it will be as if they had server transfered. I just recently started playing an alliance character on my predominantly horde PvE server, and it's like being in a completely different server - you don't see the same people, so I'd never notice that an acquaintence had disappeared.

It'll be like they changed servers, and that's cool, why is this wrong?

 

[Chilliman]

Kinda glad, my time playing as an Night Elf Hunter has left me with one thought bore into my mind, Alliance sucks. Seriously Horde is just so much cooler, Alliance players in my experience are all small children wanting to play the hero. Horde characters on the other hand have realized this, and are using their characters to punch these small children in the face.

This post is win. Punching children is okay in my book. Sadly enough, there are as many kids on horde as alliance...depends on server of course.

 

[CLEVERSLEAZOID]

All I can see is wahwahwah alliance kiddies gonna come to horde boohoo

Guys, they are already there, they have been since Horde got the Blood Elf, so all the pre-teen WoW players can carry out their anime fantasies x)

Reason why Alliance had so many younger characters to begin with? Night Elves. Ever since the Horde got a 'pretty race' its been balanced out, I can't go on any server on any side without finding it being over-ran with the cesspool of rampaging teenage hormones. But when Blizzard realized this, they brought out the Blood Elves to try and balance the servers.

Besides, sitting there whining about it? You're not sounding anymore mature than the people you are complaining about

As for the whole faction change ability? I really don't see the point. I enjoy playing both Alliance and Horde equally, I wouldn't change my main to an Orc Shammy, just as much as I wouldn't turn my only level 80 Horde [Undead Warrior] into a Human.

 

[El Poncho]

4 months not played WoW and it's getting even more tempting.

 

[Therumancer]

Well, when it comes to Good vs. Evil I see it as the Horde is an evil side that has a few good people and the Alliance is a good side with a few evil people. For example in The Horde Thrall is more or less a straightforward good guy, and as the supreme leader he is what is keeping The Horde from falling into barbarity and outright evil, but he is constantly under pressure to basically go out and conquer everyone. The Orcs are still warmongers any way you look at it, and they are from another dimension. It isn't like they all decided to go home after The Dark Portal opened. Yes they are "Klingon Like" but then again the Klingons are bad guys, the only reason why they started working with The Federation was because they lost the moon Praxis (I think that was the name) causing an energy crisis and the inertia to continue to wage war. Had that not occured they'd still be trying to conquer and enslave everyone because that is what they do. Sure The Klingons have honor and respect The Federation but the relationship has been made clear. The Klingons aren't even especially happy about the alliance.

In The Horde the problem isn't just the Royal Apothocary society, The Forsaken don't care for the living in general. Plus you've also got the Trolls who are practitioners of dark magic, the game mechanics don't go into eating hearts and stuff to cast spells, but these dudes are the "Dark Spear Tribe" from the games and while they allied with Thrall over common enemies (and got into The Horde that way) they are hardly a group of nice people. They are on a lot of levels a group of extrme bad guys, who happen to be useful, and have bartered that usefulness for protection of the Orcish armies against their other enemies.

Really the only Horde races that could be considered "good" are The Tauren (who are loyal to Thrall for saving them more than to The Horde itself, and have an entirely differant way of thinking from the other races), and the High Elves who went wrong largely because of Kael'Thas, and were forced to do some pretty dubious things magically in order to survive after the horrendous beating The Scourge inflicted on them.

I think the telling point is the "Wrathgate" event and the return of the Alliance's king.
The king was kidnapped and forced to fight in arenas for the amusement of The Horde. Thrall did not know about this, but then again that's part of the problem. So ultimatly while the King seems to be a jerk, he turned out that way for a VERY good reason. If nothing else Thrall is surrounded by a group of evil jerks and can't keep his house in line.

Now Jaina does have some valid viewpoints about peaceful co-existance, but in the end your dealing with diametrically opposing viewpoint. The Horde has a lot of people who want to rip out hearts and bathe in the blood of virgin children to enhanced their magical power for example. The alliance hates the horde because of the beating they took in stopping them pre-scourge. Enslaving them (as opposed to committing genocide) was an act of mercy, and it's interesting to note that as soon as they escaped they immediatly started building an empire again (causing failed naval retaliation) and getting some of the most depraved monsters together under one banner to create a unified threat.

Such are my thoughts on everything at least. Noone is a perfect paragon of virtue, and doubts are cast on both sides, but in the end it is fairly straight forward. If Thrall actually represented the attitude of the common orc it would be differant, but he doesn't, and he also has a horrendous habit of picking the worst "Friends" in the world (and one is judged by the company they keep).

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As far as being a human, my tastes vary from game to game, but part of the appeal IS that you are human IRL and it's cool to see us doing well in a world dominated by monsters and inhabited by other species.

>>>----Therumancer--->

 

[Therumancer]

Oh yes, and to restate something previously said. I do not think that the issue is "OMG The Horde is going to be taken over by little kiddies coming from alliance". People who think that Horde has older or more mature players totally forget that their stereotype is the opposite. These are the guys who like to put oversized avatars onto quest NPCs and such to trick people into clicking the wrong place so they can PK them. This is also the side that produced "Barrens Chat". Granted you can lose brain cells by reading some of the stuff in alliance trade channels, but Horde takes mass communication channel immaturity to entirely new depths.

The reason why people would switch sides/races is simply because The Horde has better stats, and also by joining The Horde side in PVP it increases the chance of winning substantially (in part due to the snowball effect) and in the end what people want is to power up their characters.

Going Horde basically gives the Alliance players a chance to pick the more powerful side.

Strangely, rumors and stereotypes aside, I think more alliance players in The Horde would increase the maturity level.

>>>----Therumancer--->

 

[ShawnRiles]

I think it would be way cooler if you could have 'defectors'.
You know, playing a night-elf on the horde side.
Then you'd keep all of your gear, and mounts and everything!

And THAT would cause loads of whining.

This is what I've been thinking about for a long time.

 

[Mischiviktus]

Only been asking blizzard for this for nearly...3-ish years, the re-customization was a nice add, but they should of implemented a full scale change then.

Now my priest can became the uber awesome troll he's alway destined to be, and the rogue can now become a gnome, just because there are certain people who need to be ganked into oblivion on my realm.

 

[Woem]

It looks like an interesting new way to make money:

Q.How much will it cost?
A.. We do not have further information on this at this point in time.

So you can be pretty sure it won't be free.

I think it will also allow people to change races in their own faction:

Q. Will we be able to switch between the races on our own faction?
A.. No. Players will only be able to switch to a race of the opposite faction.

Q. Will I be able to choose the race on the opposite faction that I want to change to?
A.. Yes, but you will only be able to switch to a race that has your class type available to it. So if you play a human paladin, you?d only be able to change to a blood elf paladin.

So you could change to a race from the other faction, and then change factions again choosing another race. I'm pretty sure they will allow this intentional "glitch" because people who would want to do so, would have to pay the fee twice. I see no other reason why they wouldn't allow people to change in-faction races.

Do note that I never played World of Warcraft myself, I just find this new feature highly amusing.

 

[CymTyr]

Interesting stuff. I played WoW on and off for 4 years, and I can tell you this: maturity is not measured always in physical age.

I found more kids on alliance side because they tend to think the alliance are the "good guys" - this is true. But a lot of them were pretty mature for being in their teens. I found quite a few kids on horde side, though they tended to be more of the "kid" sort of emotionally and socially stunted.

Both sides have good and bad, and ultimately this is just a cashcrop for Blizz. They're going to make a lot of money off of this, and yes horde is better for pvp but the trick is getting people to listen and work together. If you get thousands of "heroes" switching from ally to horde, and they try to solo Alterac Valley, then horde will start sucking more in pvp because of lack of teamwork.

No offense to anyone who still plays, these are just a few observations. Regardless of the age factor, the reason why horde has tended to do better in pvp is both because of racials and teamwork.
-Cym

 

[BorutaDevil]

Do you know what WoW needs to do? Make more than two factions. Of course keep the classic Horde and Alliance. But what about the Scourge and the Forsaken? Why do our DK have to leave the Scourge and join either Horde or Ally? Would it not make logical sence that faction wize it was closer to the story line? And why would you want to change your toon? That just seems retarded! I think it would be better if you could be a Troll on the Ally side. Thats what I thought the forum was about when i first found it. Not changing the actual race. What it sounds like blizzard is trying to do is play God and change your toons race, not what side they belong to.

 

[Mitsumoto]

Probably Just last week i was running 25 man Naxx we were on KT and you know how he mind controls? Yeah a gnome was the one so i decided to target the gnome and hit him with 2 18k cricts in a row, i really hate gnomes my blood elf is a gnome hunter.

 

[Mitsumoto]

And this New Faction change is what i've been waiting for, my main is Alliance human Warlock, Warlocks will always be my favorite class but i didn't know i was going to get screwed over after i picked alliance.
Once BC came out a lot of my friends went Horde so i did as well i started a Blood elf hunter sense i already had a warlock and i got him to 70 than i met a lot more people that played WoW all Horde and we all moved to one realm i stopped playing my Warlock for sometime but i came back to him sometime ago right when Wotlk came out so i got my hunter to 80 than my Warlock and i've been waiting for a faction change.

I think faction change should only be done by players who actually have a reason to switch sides like to change faction you must have a lvl 60+ character on the oppostie faction or something like that.