Xbox 360's Death Rate is 54.2%

[axia777]

I've had my 360 since the day it was released (the Premium) and it has never bricked on me. Never seen a RRoD, never had it shut down without permission, and never had any problems. Thing is, I take care of mine. I clean it once a month, vacuum out dust, and keep it well-ventilated. The key to using a 360 without hardware problems is, to put it simply, TAKE CARE OF IT!

Oh that's right, blame the users instead of blaming the terrible hardware design. What a load of crap. Microsoft just screwed up. Stop making excuses and defending them. It is not nor will it ever be the consumers fault that a 360 dies unless they have it buried under a pile of clothes, stuffed into a small enclosed space, or put into a very dirty area. Are you trying to 54.2% of 360's all died because of these various reasons? Because if so that is just ridiculous to say the least. It is just not probable.

I leave my PS3 on for weeks at a time crunching protein chains for Folding At Home. When it is not doing that it is playing games. It never goes off. It is over 2 years old now. Why has it not burned up? Because Sony took the time to make a good piece of hardware.

What I really think is the problem is that the 360's case is too small. The concave curve of the case causes insufficient air flow. The processor and GPU create to much heat. The thing needs a more open case with more powerful fans. If Microsoft made it with a more open case then I really doubt that the RRoD problem would have occurred on the level that it did.

I am not a Sony fanboy nor do I hate the 360. Besides it problems it is a great machine and X-Box Live is a great service. It is just too bad that Microsoft screwed up like this.

 

[MortisLegio]

I dont trust surveys
I have had only one problem with my and its been running fine for the last two years.
I have friends whose 360s have never had the Red Ring of Death and have friends whose PS3s crash alot.

I think it depends on the owner.

 

[Rachmaninov]

I dont trust surveys
I have had only one problem with my and its been running fine for the last two years.
I have friends whose 360s have never had the Red Ring of Death and have friends whose PS3s crash alot.

I think it depends on the owner.

I emboldened a part in your quote there.

I would trade total hardware failure for "crashing alot" in the blink of an eye. At least if a console crashes, it doesn't cost £60-80 and a week-long-wait (for repairs).

The matter of fact is, there is at least some basis in the RRoD hype, since Micro$oft had a class action law suit filed against them, and extended everyones' warranty for two years. Sony haven't had either, to my knowledge.

Edit: And as I just discovered, Micro$oft were also forced into adding the E74 error to their extended warranty, which proves this point further.

 

[axia777]

Sony haven't had either, to my knowledge.

They did with the whole DRE thing on the PS2. But that did not go far. This is what Sony had to do.

Sony Settles PS2 Lawsuit
Posted in Ethics, Hardware, PS2, Sony by ubersoldat on November 11th, 2005.

Sony has settled its ?disc read error? lawsuit by compensating the affected gamers with USD $25, a free game from a specified list, and (of course) the reduced cost repair or replacement (at SCEA?s discretion) of the damaged system. This settlement is subject to the courts? approval, and hearings will begin in the US and Canada on April 28, 2006, and May 11, 2006, respectively.

http://video-games.elliottback.com/sony-settles-ps2-lawsuit/

Not much in comparison really. I can't find a credible source for the PS2's failure fate.

 

[Rachmaninov]

Sony haven't had either, to my knowledge.

They did with the whole DRE thing on the PS2. But that did not go far. This is what Sony had to do.

Sony Settles PS2 Lawsuit
Posted in Ethics, Hardware, PS2, Sony by ubersoldat on November 11th, 2005.

Sony has settled its ?disc read error? lawsuit by compensating the affected gamers with USD $25, a free game from a specified list, and (of course) the reduced cost repair or replacement (at SCEA?s discretion) of the damaged system. This settlement is subject to the courts? approval, and hearings will begin in the US and Canada on April 28, 2006, and May 11, 2006, respectively.

http://video-games.elliottback.com/sony-settles-ps2-lawsuit/

Not much in comparison really. I can't find a credible source for the PS2's failure fate.

Well that was the last generation anyway. I meant, by comparison, the PS3 has had no lawsuits filed over it, nor having it's warranty extended (again, only to my knowledge).

 

[hailmagus]

I've gotten the Red Ring twice already... or I should say one and a half. I got it once on my birthday two or three years ago, and almost very recently. I was having some over heating/freezing issues and I called Microsoft to tell them my issues (and requesting some satisfaction) they wanted $100. for a repair. I said FUCK THAT. I went to a mom and pop (boyfriend & girlfriend more like it) shop that I've been going to off and on for the last six or seven years and found out they do repairs, and in fact only charge fifty bucks... if they fix it. IF they don't it's obviously nothing. Still a sweet deal... still waiting...

I can honestly say as much as I like Live and some of the other features; back compat. (especially) ect. I would not waste anymore time on Microsoft. (I wanted to say something clever like Micro-deuche... but it just wouldn't fit)

Oh and the "recently" issue is pre Red Ring (that's why it only count's as half) I guess... something about the motherboard and a bunch of little twats... I don't remember exactly what he said...

 

[axia777]

Well that was the last generation anyway. I meant, by comparison, the PS3 has had no lawsuits filed over it, nor having it's warranty extended (again, only to my knowledge).

Yes, you are right. Nor will Sony have a law suit against them for the PS3. It is just rock steady.

 

[E-mantheseeker]

Is it a rule that the more advanced our console become the more fragile they are? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to make a Nintendo 64 break unless you dunked it in water or took a chainsaw to it.

 

[Rachmaninov]

Once upon a time, I was a Sony fanboy (PS2). Then the Xbox 360 came, and swept me off my feet, until I realised the shining armour it was wearing was actually just tinfoil.

I know which way I'm going, when the nexter-gen hits.

Is it a rule that the more advanced our console become the more fragile they are? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be able to make a Nintendo 64 break unless you dunked it in water or took a chainsaw to it.

No, the rule is:

The more our console costs to develop, and the greedier the company, the more money needs to be made. More money requires more sales, and more sales can be achieved, through designing your console to fail. The only cost is loss of face, and why would the Almighty Micro$oft care about saving face?

 

[bakonslayer]

I destroyed an XBox and a party in one swift tilt of the case, plugging something in. I can't say I wasn't proud... But it wasn't my XBox. XD

However, I can't say I've ever had any problem with any consoles I've ever owned. And as long as I blow the cartridge nice and softly, Goldeneye will still purr like a kitty.

 

[Custard_Angel]

Yeah well, serves you right for thinking that any console is the best option.

Computers, they aren't just for pornography.

 

[Agarth]

With the red rings I'm not surprised that the XBox's death rate is 54.2%

 

[Axle_Bullitt_19]

I say personal luck or simply over use cause I have had two PS3's break on me with a 60 whos disc drive went and an 80 that over heated, also my current referbished 80 had an issue that was solved with a simple system restore. In the begining one of my reasons for buying the PS3 was because of the 360's 1/3 failure rate form earlier. Guess I got shafted on that pic but I'm still faithful to the PS3 due to Polyphony Digital, Naughty Dog, Insomniac, and the other first party developers that sony has.

 

[ReZerO]

My PS3 died on me within the first year, but i blame myself, i had it on 24/7 running folding @ home. ive had my second one since then (folding @ home never even turned on) and it's still working quite fine
two out of the four people i know that have an x-box have had the RROD

 

[Cama Zots]

He-he. My 3 year old xbox is still running strong.

I still have my first xbox 360 too, and I got mine a few weeks after the platform came out.

 

[jboking]

5000 of over a million is not an acceptable poll.

It's not acceptable for the Wii or PS3 either, but they seemed to fair pretty well.

OP: This seems...exaggerated, I think I'm going to stick with the publicized 16-30% failure rate(Still pretty bad though).

 

[Amnestic]

5000 of over a million is not an acceptable poll.

It's not acceptable for the Wii or PS3 either, but they seemed to fair pretty well.

OP: This seems...exaggerated, I think I'm going to stick with the publicized 16-30% failure rate(Still pretty bad though).

A poor poll is a poor poll, even if the results do seem to correlate with the 'accepted' statistics.

 

[jboking]

5000 of over a million is not an acceptable poll.

It's not acceptable for the Wii or PS3 either, but they seemed to fair pretty well.

OP: This seems...exaggerated, I think I'm going to stick with the publicized 16-30% failure rate(Still pretty bad though).

A poor poll is a poor poll, even if the results do seem to correlate with the 'accepted' statistics.

So you would expect game informer to poll everyone who has ever owned the system? Would you rather them put a distinction between the new and old models even though both are still in circulating in great number?

Tell me, what would it require for the poll to be more acceptable?

 

[EvilMuffin094]

A friend of mine actually knows how to fix the "red rings of death" on his own. I was pretty surprised when he told me what causes it and how easy it is to fix. I can't seem to remember though...

 

[ForgetRealism09]

ive had mine from first day of release, still alive