Xbox One Fans Petition For The Return Of DRM
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Must...keep...head...from...exploding...
I honestly don't know where to begin with this. It's just so...so...well, here, I'll let this guy sum up my thoughts on the matter:
On another note, I can't wait to see what kind of corporate spin/bad analogies UnnDunn tries to convince us with in this topic.
I honestly don't know where to begin with this. It's just so...so...well, here, I'll let this guy sum up my thoughts on the matter:
On another note, I can't wait to see what kind of corporate spin/bad analogies UnnDunn tries to convince us with in this topic.
To paraphrase Jack Nicholson: "You fucking people"
Steam for consoles wasn't necessarily going to happen, we had no guarantee that it would, also, it's easy to say that "oh, DRM isn't so bad; I'm always connected anyway!".
And then your internet goes down.
And then you are happy that you bought a game from gog that isn't part of your steam library.
Steam for consoles wasn't necessarily going to happen, we had no guarantee that it would, also, it's easy to say that "oh, DRM isn't so bad; I'm always connected anyway!".
And then your internet goes down.
And then you are happy that you bought a game from gog that isn't part of your steam library.
Y'know what? Let them have it. Let Microsoft reintroduce the stuff and let them have it. Everybody else just don't buy the damn thing. Let them have it and take close note of the names in the petition.
And the very SECOND one of the petitioneers comes whining somewhere because the servers are down or what have you, RUB IT UNDER HIS NOSE.
#DealWithIt. There's your signature. YOU WANTED IT THAT WAY. Welcome to your future.
I'm tired of railing against what is blatant stupid design and corporate lies. I've been doing it ineffectually online for quite a while now, and even with RL people they won't listen until the damage is done (*cough*D3*cough* You know who you are, people...). So let them burn themselves, if they won't learn otherwise. That way at least no one can blame me for "impressing my way onto others" or some such BS.
The rest just go buy a WiiU and pray for more games, or buy a PS4 and pray they don't alter the deal further, or just go PC. Or hell, buy a PS2. That thing is still great, y'know?
And the very SECOND one of the petitioneers comes whining somewhere because the servers are down or what have you, RUB IT UNDER HIS NOSE.
#DealWithIt. There's your signature. YOU WANTED IT THAT WAY. Welcome to your future.
I'm tired of railing against what is blatant stupid design and corporate lies. I've been doing it ineffectually online for quite a while now, and even with RL people they won't listen until the damage is done (*cough*D3*cough* You know who you are, people...). So let them burn themselves, if they won't learn otherwise. That way at least no one can blame me for "impressing my way onto others" or some such BS.
The rest just go buy a WiiU and pray for more games, or buy a PS4 and pray they don't alter the deal further, or just go PC. Or hell, buy a PS2. That thing is still great, y'know?
No, it really wasn't. It had all of the drawbacks of Steam, plus a few of its own, but only a fraction of Steam's benefits. Steam comes with constant sales. Steam comes with free online multiplayer. Steam won't require you to keep your old computer and OS around when the latest and greatest is released and doesn't support old games. Steam comes with an offline mode that works for more than 24 hours. Steam adds overlay and launching support for external games and applications. Steam doesn't cost $500.
That's not to say the DRM wouldn't have had some good aspects, but nothing on the level to compete with Steam, or to make up for the bad. Certainly not when you consider its DRM was far more restrictive than Steam's, in spite of what some people will claim.
P.S. Thanks
Oh god, I can already see it now. They'll release a statement saying how great the system would have been, but then subtly imply that the consumers ruined it for themselves because of popular demand, as though the DRM was necessary and will be necessary whenever they make changes to the Xbone and so their future DRM is justified.FEichinger said:
It's like watching any given Hollywood film. Needlessly dramatic and horrendously predictable.
Ok for a minute I was worried that this had been about the joke petition by "Jaimy Russles"
http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-bring-back-xbox-onetm-drm
It included some who also signed this equally hilarious Dark Souls petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/namco-bandai-from-software-increase-the-file-size-of-the-dark-souls-pc-version
http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-bring-back-xbox-onetm-drm
It included some who also signed this equally hilarious Dark Souls petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/namco-bandai-from-software-increase-the-file-size-of-the-dark-souls-pc-version
The DRM was protecting the digital sharing from being abused. And no company in the world would remove a cool feature of its product, just to rub the noses of its own customers. At maximum you can say, that it was there to offset the online DRM, and after removing the protection, MS does no longer feel the need to add it. But like I said, the DRM and the digital sharing were connected (if it even was a digital sharing, the last thing I saw, was that it was some sort of demoing).Bindal said:
I can't name even one software protection that is working even in the slightest, without a hardware piece to attach itself, or internet server to protect it. Enlighten me, please, if you know some.
Akichi Daikashima said:
My internet goes down from time to time and I still play my games through Steam. Hell I can put my laptop in Airplane mode and play Bioshock through steam.
I'm really confused as to why people keep talking about Steam like it requires a constant connection.
Edit: Forgot my OT part
Since this is online petition is it really supposed to be serious? I mean I remember an online petition a few years ago for Blizzard (no not a typo, it said blizzard) to destroy all copies of Skyrim for corrupting children and I recall that one being mostly signed by "Alduin" and the "Society against cruelty to dragons"
I was wondering how it was anything like Steam as well. I addition to what you've said, Steam also doesn't allow the trading/selling/or sharing of digital rights either like they said in the petition...or at least not yet. Why did they even use Steam as a comparison other than to bring up a DRM scheme which is much less maligned.Covarr said:
Because in the minds of the general public, all DRM is always-online. Defeating this confusion would require people to actually know what they're talking about before saying things, which if the past 4000 years of human nature are any indication, isn't gonna happen.NWJ94 said:
P.S. Thanks
My favorite part about the petition is how almost all of the signers put their reason as basically: I want the Xbox to be worst so the PS4 will shine harder. I don't know what the petition's creator had in mind when he made this, but the result is nevertheless humorous.
A comment from one of the signers:
"I signed. And I hope Microsoft reinstate DRM.
To the people who are against it are nothing but a short sighted cheap twat! Just stop whining and preorder your PS3 2.0 while the intelligent folks preorder a true next gen console that focuses on the future.
Xbox One with DRM & Family Sharing all the way!!!"
I lol'd.
"I signed. And I hope Microsoft reinstate DRM.
To the people who are against it are nothing but a short sighted cheap twat! Just stop whining and preorder your PS3 2.0 while the intelligent folks preorder a true next gen console that focuses on the future.
Xbox One with DRM & Family Sharing all the way!!!"
I lol'd.
Don't care, I'm not going to buy their brick of a console. Not Microsoft's fault, it's the console games developers' fault. But about this whole petition thing... if it weren't for the poor quality, I would've really thought that this petition was started by someone in the Microsoft PR department.
As it is, I think it's just some idiot who heard, after the fact, that the loss of the daily DRM also removed family sharing. That idiot, I guess, wasn't paying attention when the sharing was exposed to just be a couple-hour demo or whatever.
I guess he also didn't notice that you could only resell his crap to participating retailers and that was only the disk stuff... sure there were rumors, but by the time they reversed the DRM policy, the best anyone said was that "they could do it". In fact most of what people were hoping from xbox was the "may be" and the "could be" stuff, all that was KNOWN was the anit-consumer shit.
You know what they say about wishing into one hand and shitting into the other...
As it is, I think it's just some idiot who heard, after the fact, that the loss of the daily DRM also removed family sharing. That idiot, I guess, wasn't paying attention when the sharing was exposed to just be a couple-hour demo or whatever.
I guess he also didn't notice that you could only resell his crap to participating retailers and that was only the disk stuff... sure there were rumors, but by the time they reversed the DRM policy, the best anyone said was that "they could do it". In fact most of what people were hoping from xbox was the "may be" and the "could be" stuff, all that was KNOWN was the anit-consumer shit.
You know what they say about wishing into one hand and shitting into the other...
