Xbox One Will Need 15-20 Minutes to Download Launch Patch

[FPLOON]

OT: Microsoft backs down on always online. Forces you to be online when you buy the console anyway.

£10 says this is out of spite.

Double that with it trying to connect online right when you turn it on for the first time... just to make the patch happen "right away"...[footnote]...and that's why I don't bet...[/footnote]

OT: Well, at least the consensus that the Xbox One has right now will not decrease or increase anytime soon before launch... unless they have something else they like to set on the table before launch...

 

[Arslan Aladeen]

Amazing how last gen consoles amd games didn't need constant updates the way this gen does.

I remember the days of Dreamcast and the original Xbox and couldn't wait to see the future of console and what going online would bring. Now I think going online is the quite possibly the worst thing that's ever happened to consoles.

 

[Evonisia]

If GTA V gets away with a day one download, then I hope nobody gives the Xbox One crap for this. Oh wait, that's impossible because 'Xbox One' as a name means original sin.

 

[Yopaz]

Isn't this one of the things the Wii U got slammed for when it came out?

Yeah and that was more an issue about server load rather than the size of the patch. The average time to download that patch was estimated to about 5 minutes. If Xbox One gets similar server issues due to people downloading it at the same time then this could get really ugly.

Funny how the news story above this is basically "gtao servers are being royally fucked". I bet this 15 to 20 minutes download time will be 24 hour download time.

Them servers are going to get fucking hammered by how many million people? I don't think your Internet will matter much to be honest

Quick question, why can't they just put the patch on the console before launch? Is that not possible?

If the predictions some people around this site have are correct then it will be more like two people trying to download it... Both Journalists...

 

[choclatechocobo]

But, but, but Microsoft!

"We can increase CPU and GPU capability on Xbox One," says Harrison, "so I think it's impossible to draw any conclusions from that based on pre-launch unfinished hardware and unfinished operating systems."

Does this mean the operating system devs were using was finished all along? Why would you lie to us so willingly :'(

 

[Lord Doomhammer]

Speaking as someone who is planning on waiting for all the fuss to be over before I get an xbox one, this doesn't bother me. I'll probably pick one up between january or june... once all the firmware has been patched and the bugs are sorted.

Also I strongly suspect this update is to undo all the software plans they originally announced... they probably started production months ago with the software setup the way they announced and will have to patch it to bring it in line with all the recent PR crap.

Still though, as a PC gamer I'm not really bothered, just an excuse to make snacks when I get home from picking it up.

 

[Strazdas]

This is probably due to overload of servers on launch day more than anything though.

More importantly, what internet speed are they assuming with this? Because a 15 to 20 minute download at my house when I was at university (30Mb/s), could take close to a day at home, where if the speed breaches 1mb/s its a huge surprise.

They are assuming the limits of thier servers due to massive demand on launch day. so theyp robably hope for slow speeds since there will be a million peopel downlaoding it at the same time.

Isn't the purpouse of a console to be "plug and play"?, I mean, I can understand that a console needs a patch after certain time (see PSP and PS3) and even those patches are included on the game itself, but blatantly requiring someone to be connected to the internet for a patch with a recently purchased console?.

You are the ones who asked for it, sort of. The day oen patch purpose is to turn off the 24 hour check and other always online features, so by demanding to have your console offline you created a day 1 donwload patch to make it so. ironic kinda.

Oh, good. Because having a few million people all hit a server for the same files at the same time has never gone wrong before.

GOod sir, you are heavily overestimating the amount of extremist fanatics Xbox still retains.

Now...when they say "Mandatory", how mandatory is mandatory?

As in, if I choose to stay offline with my system, will I have to download this patch in order for my system to do the most basic functions of playing video games? Could I pop in Dead Rising 3 and start playing it without this patch if I am never ever planning on going online with my hypothetical Xbox One?

madatory is mandatory. this patch is what allows your system to even work offline. we have been over this people....

Assuming the multi-billion dollar software company has good experience with computers, they should presumably be able to deal with this. If they didn't know about it in advance, then sure, there'd be problems, but Microsoft literally /chose/ the date of release. It's not going to catch them off guard.

Three words: Sim City Launch.

Funny how the news story above this is basically "gtao servers are being royally fucked". I bet this 15 to 20 minutes download time will be 24 hour download time.

You have to remember that there are far more people wanting to play GTA:O than to own Xbox One. If anything Microsoft is heavily overestimating their remaining userbase.

So if you can't hook it up to the internet, you just bought an expensive paperweight?

yes, you did.

Where did you get "non-functional"? It probably is a patch to incorporate some of the MANY 180s they pulled after finalization. Or just an optimization they did post-finalization. It's fully possible the console would function without internet.

They did mention that the removal of always online requirement will come in a form of day-1 patch.

My Windows updates is constantly saying "Just a few moments" for about ten minutes, so...

heh, 10 minutes. i got a 100/100 line and sometimes it fails to conenct to microsoft servers at all.

 

[not_you]

Yeah, I have a question...

15-20 minutes, at what linespeed?

Because over in upside down Australia, 15-20 minutes of YOUR time downloading is closer to 45-60 minutes OUR time...

Or at least for most households anyway...

 

[RicoADF]

Funny how the news story above this is basically "gtao servers are being royally fucked". I bet this 15 to 20 minutes download time will be 24 hour download time.

Them servers are going to get fucking hammered by how many million people? I don't think your Internet will matter much to be honest

Quick question, why can't they just put the patch on the console before launch? Is that not possible?

The machines have and are being made, boxed and shipped. To update every console they would need to get them all and have people unbox, plug in, update, then rebox etc etc. It's not feasible, it's much easier to just have a day 1 patch which you download. A dick move sure, and one that will cost sales as those that don't have net will return their unusable system, but that's all they can do. Perhaps they shouldn't have been so stupid to have the requirements at all :-/

Future batches of machines should have the updated OS on it though, just not the first few batches.

 

[Funyahns]

If GTA V gets away with a day one download, then I hope nobody gives the Xbox One crap for this. Oh wait, that's impossible because 'Xbox One' as a name means original sin.

Exactly

It is their own fault. If you are a business and do not know how to win in publicity. Where a large majority of people are overly impulsive and take whatever crap a company will give them. Then they deserve to get some grief.

Oh and the thing about a console. It is suppose to work out of the box right away. There will probably be several hundred people who will want a refund from not reading up on the needed patch.

 

[Something Amyss]

Isn't this one of the things the Wii U got slammed for when it came out?

Didn't the Wii U more get slammed for the initial software download taking up a fair chunk of the 4GB drive it started with?

OT: Microsoft backs down on always online. Forces you to be online when you buy the console anyway.

£10 says this is out of spite.

It was technically both, but the bigger issue was that it ate up the drive.

And yes, I have trouble believing this was something they couldn't undo themselves. And they have been fairly passive-aggressive of late. All that "we're sorry you weren't smart enough to understand our role in TEH FEWCHUR" and stuff.

 

[Olas]

The sad part is that they're probably going to get a lot of hate for this, simply because it's the Xbox One.

Maybe, then again the WiiU got hate for pretty much the same thing. I think people in general think day-one updates are stupid, I can't imagine why.

 

[Antari]

Another unfinished product hits the shelves and everyone rushes to buy it. I can't say I feel any sympathy for anyone who actually buys the damn thing on day 1, and regrets it.

 

[RicoADF]

Another unfinished product hits the shelves and everyone rushes to buy it. I can't say I feel any sympathy for anyone who actually buys the damn thing on day 1, and regrets it.

To be fair alot of the issues will be with all the parents that don't know or understand what the XBone is and have bought lil timmy his new toy then their confused it won't work which is why what Microsoft has done is fraud/false advertising.

 

[Antari]

Another unfinished product hits the shelves and everyone rushes to buy it. I can't say I feel any sympathy for anyone who actually buys the damn thing on day 1, and regrets it.

To be fair alot of the issues will be with all the parents that don't know or understand what the XBone is and have bought lil timmy his new toy then their confused it won't work which is why what Microsoft has done is fraud/false advertising.

I have to agree with you there. They don't appear to be enforcing false advertising laws anymore at all. And we are almost constantly bombarded with extreme examples of bad parenting. It is pretty sad that this is where the industry has ended up.

 

[RicoADF]

Another unfinished product hits the shelves and everyone rushes to buy it. I can't say I feel any sympathy for anyone who actually buys the damn thing on day 1, and regrets it.

To be fair alot of the issues will be with all the parents that don't know or understand what the XBone is and have bought lil timmy his new toy then their confused it won't work which is why what Microsoft has done is fraud/false advertising.

I have to agree with you there. They don't appear to be enforcing false advertising laws anymore at all. And we are almost constantly bombarded with extreme examples of bad parenting. It is pretty sad that this is where the industry has ended up.

In Australia they can take it back and grt a refund, just sad that people will be soured by this. I hope most retailers will warn the consumers but you can bet there will be some who get it from target or another retail chain who don't know or care about gaming and thus won't warn them

 

[Antari]

Another unfinished product hits the shelves and everyone rushes to buy it. I can't say I feel any sympathy for anyone who actually buys the damn thing on day 1, and regrets it.

To be fair alot of the issues will be with all the parents that don't know or understand what the XBone is and have bought lil timmy his new toy then their confused it won't work which is why what Microsoft has done is fraud/false advertising.

I have to agree with you there. They don't appear to be enforcing false advertising laws anymore at all. And we are almost constantly bombarded with extreme examples of bad parenting. It is pretty sad that this is where the industry has ended up.

In Australia they can take it back and grt a refund, just sad that people will be soured by this. I hope most retailers will warn the consumers but you can bet there will be some who get it from target or another retail chain who don't know or care about gaming and thus won't warn them

Considering the retailers will be desperate to sell off all the overhead they've just bought themselves into. I highly doubt they'll be too concerned about the condition of the product or its functionality. As long as they get the sales promotion material they will be happy. And besides no one will ever blame them, as Microsoft is the one who put their name on it.

 

[TimeLord]

Amazing how last gen consoles amd games didn't need constant updates the way this gen does.

More things to go wrong the more technology you put in a box I guess

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Not too big of a problem for the average user. An inconvenience. For users without internet, major disappointment. Maybe take a hint next time.

 

[loa]

They did mention that the removal of always online requirement will come in a form of day-1 patch.

Who thought introducing a day 1 patch you have to be online for in order to be able to use the thing offline at all was a good idea?
There will be a torrent of returns of for all intents and purposes "bricked" xbones that way.