Xbox One Will Need 15-20 Minutes to Download Launch Patch

[Arawn]

Like most I do believe that the estimated 15-20 minutes will expand somewhat on the first day. Companies mean well, but when they release updates and such there's always a problem. Perhaps people will see 20-30 mins instead. Maybe I'm wrong, but one thing I'm certain of is that PS4 will also have a patch. Maybe not first day (I hope) but there will be an issue. Perhaps with the PSN linking from the previous console? Don't know, but something will require fixing and Sony will have similar problems. Of course the reaction might not be as severe since Sony has won the hearts of many.

Know what system you don't have to download dick for once you install the operation system from the DVD?

PCs.

Yeah, never have to update said system, graphic drivers, anti-virus, or nothing. Works perfectly forever. That's PC stands for Perfect Computer. Shame I didn't get one of those. I got a computer you tweak and adjust every once in awhile.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

Whats the problem here?
Its not like 20 minutes will kill you. It will take longer to get it home and set it up for most people.
If this is the consoles biggest problem I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

Its not hard to connect an ethernet cable to an xbox for an hour to update it. And if you have no internet, than no offense but you are probably in the wrong hobby.

 

[Petromir]

As annoying as Day 1 patches are they do allow companies to shave a lot of time off release dates for hardware like this. either that or put it through more QA etc.

Remember to have built up sufficent load of consoles for the intial release they will have had to have got a vast number done with firmware/OS installed weeks before the launch date. Thats time for a fair amount of work to be done.

If I were a games chain, I'd try and persuade MS to make a patch version for a DVD and burn a whole load of them to hand out as bonuses for buying from the chain.


THe PS4 is almost guarenteed have a Day 1 patch and if it doesnt, it'll be day 2 or 3 or similar and just have been delayed as a marketing stunt, leaving customers with issues that Sony have already fixed........

I wish I had one of these perfect on release consoles pre 360/ps3 genreation, as most had quirks that could have been fixed like this. Previously console games that shipped with bugs (and all had at least some) stayed with them.

 

[MagunBFP]

Know what system you don't have to download dick for once you install the operation system from the DVD?

PCs.

What the fuck happened, consoles?

When was the last time you installed Windows on a PC? I'll tell you now there are a hell of alot of Windows Updates for Windows 7.

Turns out consoles are just getting closer to being Towers for TVs, no doubt the next ones will come with a keyboard and mouse and have Office installed as well, but we're at least one gen away from that.

 

[Strazdas]

They did mention that the removal of always online requirement will come in a form of day-1 patch.

Who thought introducing a day 1 patch you have to be online for in order to be able to use the thing offline at all was a good idea?
There will be a torrent of returns of for all intents and purposes "bricked" xbones that way.

Well, microsoft, obviously. they understand "good idea" a bit differently than the rest.
OF course there will be, but does Microsoft know? i mean you may think "Thier not that stupid" but they keep proving us wrong.

Know what system you don't have to download dick for once you install the operation system from the DVD?

PCs.

Yeah, never have to update said system, graphic drivers, anti-virus, or nothing. Works perfectly forever. That's PC stands for Perfect Computer. Shame I didn't get one of those. I got a computer you tweak and adjust every once in awhile.

If you dont conenct it to internet then no, you dont. you just install the game and play. if you connec it to internet, everything but graphic drivers updates automatically while your not even there most of the time. and even graphic drivers, im doing fine with years old ones and they never crash on me. yes the new ones are faster but it also makes my GPU heat more and thats not a tradeoff i want to do now.

 

[Zetatrain]

But...

...why?

I'd imagine it's because of all the policy roll-backs that they implemented. So to be fair, this is actually kinda understandable seeing as how they need to make it so that the Kinect doesn't need to be plugged in, you don't need an online connection, and all the other stuff that they back-tracked on just to make the console even remotely appealing.

True, but Microsoft could very easily just have the software updates factory installed to the console and skip the whole "wait 15-20 minutes just to use the console" business.

True, but I'm willing to bet its easier and more cost efficient for Microsoft to just put out a patch and have everyone download it as opposed to updating the software on every single Xbox One unit themselves before they are shipped out.

However, I'm also willing to bet that a good amount of the mainstream population will remain unaware of this mandatory update, and those with crappy internet connections will end up returning their units. So in an attempt to save on overhead costs, Microsoft may end up losing more than the amount they were attempting to save.

 

[Abomination]

Know what system you don't have to download dick for once you install the operation system from the DVD?

PCs.

Yeah, never have to update said system, graphic drivers, anti-virus, or nothing. Works perfectly forever. That's PC stands for Perfect Computer. Shame I didn't get one of those. I got a computer you tweak and adjust every once in awhile.

Know what system you don't have to download dick for once you install the operation system from the DVD?

PCs.

What the fuck happened, consoles?

When was the last time you installed Windows on a PC? I'll tell you now there are a hell of alot of Windows Updates for Windows 7.

Turns out consoles are just getting closer to being Towers for TVs, no doubt the next ones will come with a keyboard and mouse and have Office installed as well, but we're at least one gen away from that.

Key words: "Don't have to."

Entirely optional. The PC doesn't require you download X firmware update to run the thing. For some reason consoles now do.

 

[omega 616]

snip .

Don't make excuses for them, they announced ages ago that you would need a day 1 patch/you need to connect it to the Internet the first time you use it, so they have had months and months to install this patch.

I think the day 1 patch was announced at the same time they announced they 180'd on there vision of the xbone.

 

[RicoADF]

Don't make excuses for them, they announced ages ago that you would need a day 1 patch/you need to connect it to the Internet the first time you use it, so they have had months and months to install this patch.

I think the day 1 patch was announced at the same time they announced they 180'd on there vision of the xbone.

I wasn't making excuses, I actually dislike the XBone and have no plans to get one anytime soon, just saying why they haven't. It takes time to make these systems for release, manufacturing was already underway before the public announcement, where do you think the rumors that warned us what they had planned came from? Manufacturing plants are where leaks often occur.

 

[Denamic]

From previous experiences, I can pretty safely assume these 15-20 minutes is actually an hour and a half. More if their servers explode.

 

[Dragonbums]

Know what system you don't have to download dick for once you install the operation system from the DVD?

PCs.

Yeah, never have to update said system, graphic drivers, anti-virus, or nothing. Works perfectly forever. That's PC stands for Perfect Computer. Shame I didn't get one of those. I got a computer you tweak and adjust every once in awhile.

Know what system you don't have to download dick for once you install the operation system from the DVD?

PCs.

What the fuck happened, consoles?

When was the last time you installed Windows on a PC? I'll tell you now there are a hell of alot of Windows Updates for Windows 7.

Turns out consoles are just getting closer to being Towers for TVs, no doubt the next ones will come with a keyboard and mouse and have Office installed as well, but we're at least one gen away from that.

Key words: "Don't have to."

Entirely optional. The PC doesn't require you download X firmware update to run the thing. For some reason consoles now do.

What are you talking about?
Whenever I choose not to update my Windows computer, I know for a fact that at some point in the near future, Windows will force my laptop into doing the update for me. Whether I wanted it do or not.

Just two weeks ago I woke up to my laptop in the middle of rebooting itself after a self imposed major update.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

WiiU did this as did the PS3, and people major issues downloading the patch. Though thats just because everyone was trying to do it on launch day. No big deal though, just wait till later in the day or the next day. I bet soon PS4 will say they will be doing it to also and there will be not one negative comment about it. An even if you cant play your brand new console for a few hours, is that even a big deal? Why are people getting so over dramatic about it? I remember when i got WoW, a few years back, took the whole afternoon to install and then hours of patches and updates - played it for 20 minutes then went to bed. lol.

Although, I remember the moaning when PS3 owners were told that every game had to be installed onto the hard drive with some like Metal Gear taking 20 mins to install. Now installing is second nature, not an issue anymore. We all know there will be problems, millions of people will be attempting to download the patch day one. Accept it. I know its annoyings. But once its all done you have years of gaming to follow....its really not going to effect your life that much. Though if you buy at a midnight launch then im guessing their will be problems.

 

[Dragonbums]

Know what system you don't have to download dick for once you install the operation system from the DVD?

PCs.

What the fuck happened, consoles?

PC Gamer Elitist: Lol, consoles are so dumb, they can never outclass PC's lol PCMasterRace4lyfe

Console Player Specs Hogs: This [insert console here] has so much last gen tech. PC will outclass this in 5 months. Only buying console for exclusives, but PC is superior consoles. Man I wish consoles were convenient like PC's.

Console Manufacturers: People want consoles to act more like PC's. So lets start shoving thing in there that PC's can also do like connect to an internet browser and watch movies, and steroid pump the specs to the point where we need a day 1 patch just to make sure everything works solid on Day 1.

 

[Hazy992]

How many games and systems have day one patches? And didn't the Wii U patch take most people a few HOURS to download?

I don't see why this should be regarded as any different. Yes it sucks, yes products should be ready when they're released, but the Xbox One isn't an exception here.

People are just trying to find any old excuse to hate on the Xbox One at this point. There are many, MANY legitimate criticisms you can have about the console, but this ain't one of them.

 

[Petromir]

How many games and systems have day one patches? And didn't the Wii U patch take most people a few HOURS to download?

I don't see why this should be regarded as any different. Yes it sucks, yes products should be ready when they're released, but the Xbox One isn't an exception here.

People are just trying to find any old excuse to hate on the Xbox One at this point. There are many, MANY legitimate criticisms you can have about the console, but this ain't one of them.

Well its a fair critasism, that isn't affected by the factb that it's pretty standard, something being common is not a reason something isnt a problem.

The issue with critisising this comes when people act like this is a reason to get a competitor, when the competiters also has the problem, we haven't yet as far as I know been told whether the PS4 will, but lieklyhood is that it will and if it doesnt it's likely to be a marketing stunt and the day 1 patch is being withheld to score cheap points likely at the customers expense....

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

Shouldn't this be implemented directly into the system so no need for patching on day 1?

They have already begun production of the Xbone. The download is likely an updated version of the OS that strips out all the DRM and Kinect requirement.

 

[Toadfish1]

Now...when they say "Mandatory", how mandatory is mandatory?

As in, if I choose to stay offline with my system, will I have to download this patch in order for my system to do the most basic functions of playing video games? Could I pop in Dead Rising 3 and start playing it without this patch if I am never ever planning on going online with my hypothetical Xbox One?

I did a quick sift through the IGN article and I see no mention of this...which seems pretty damn important so I'm not sure why no one brought it up while asking these other questions.

If you don't download it, the Xbone will be stuck on Microsofts 24-hour Check-in timetable and absolute blockage of preowned games. Downloading the patch is the only way to get it off that.

 

[Toadfish1]

Funny how the news story above this is basically "gtao servers are being royally fucked". I bet this 15 to 20 minutes download time will be 24 hour download time.

Them servers are going to get fucking hammered by how many million people? I don't think your Internet will matter much to be honest

Quick question, why can't they just put the patch on the console before launch? Is that not possible?

The machines have and are being made, boxed and shipped. To update every console they would need to get them all and have people unbox, plug in, update, then rebox etc etc. It's not feasible, it's much easier to just have a day 1 patch which you download. A dick move sure, and one that will cost sales as those that don't have net will return their unusable system, but that's all they can do. Perhaps they shouldn't have been so stupid to have the requirements at all :-/

Future batches of machines should have the updated OS on it though, just not the first few batches.

If they updated the OS in future machines, that would limit Microsofts ability to just casually release a patch one day to reverse everything to its utterly draconian original plan, once enough people have already bought the system.