Yet Another MW2 Thread : Quickscopers

[The Procrastinated End]

its faggy, you going to use a sniper.. use it properlly, dont run around lucking every kill, thats why the world has a problem with you. You are just as bad as noob tubers.

We apologize for using a certain strategy that destroys your precious image of the sniper rifle.

I forgive, stop doing it now thankyou.

I guess you would like everyone to play exactly as you do and not use some of the additional attachments that the game programmers put in?

 

[Burningsok]

there is nothing wrong, it's just snobby little kids and teenagers who get mad whenever you knock their k/d down a little. They will complain about anything to make the person feel like a cheap bastard. However noobtubing at times can be quite annoying.

 

[garfoldsomeoneelse]

I personally hate quickscopers. They're running around with a weapon that can OHK at any range. That doesn't make for a terribly balanced game.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

I think most people hate it because it is essentially makes the sniper rifle a one hit kill assault rifle. Tubes you get (2) and you're empty, yes you can refill etc. And there is the problem that with every gun you use there is some +'s and -'s the - of the sniper rifle is that its supposed to be a long distance killer where the user has to hold the breath to get a steady shot. Quick scoping kind of removes the whole you're supposed to be looking down the scope, steady, shoot. And it also (in my experience) is fairly effective in close range, where if you were looking through it normally or hip firing you'd be pretty damn screwed. Also unlike tubing you have plenty of ammo to go through and the sniper rifle can still be used for its primary long range use, but a tube you're either in tube mode or in fire mode, which leads to a lot of tubers getting killed. That's just my two cents. I dislike both tubing and quick sniping.

I personally hate quickscopers. They're running around with a weapon that can OHK at any range. That doesn't make for a terribly balanced game.

Ok, but bear in mind that there are two hit kill assault rifles in the game which along with having pretty much the same effective range of all of the snipers, (you can snipe cross map on Wasteland with the ACR) are far easier to aim meaning if you don't quickscope someone in one shot you're almost certainly dead, this combined with the fact that about 40% of quickscopes are hitmarkers anyway would imply that it's not cheap in any way.

 

[BadassCyborg]

By skilled players I mean people that move about the map, flanking and setting up ambushes. Not campers. BTW just so you know anyone that falls into these catagories I consider scum: boosters, campers, people that overuse UMP45 and SPAS12, noob-tubers, shield blockers, quick-scopers, whiny underage kids, players with names that have to many x's, alternating capital letters etc. people in 9th and 10th prestige (because they most likely used the hack, making these prestiges meaningless) If you do these please gtfo you are ruining the multiplayer.

 

[findler]

I used to play MW2 alot but haven't lately and this is a fairly recent trend I assume. It's sounding like most of the people have a problem not so much with the actual "being killed" but the arrogance and attitude of some of the people using snipers in this manner.

I can understand that. Not everyone will be a prick and brag about a quick-scope skill, but if someone is using an exploit and gets some easy kills, most reasonable people would get annoyed when they start spewing about how awesome they are.

To quick-scopers: Not saying there is anything wrong with it, but appreciate the frustration. Imagine a 10-year old noobtuber spouting off about how great they are when all they did was use danger close and fire off nades.

 

[TerranReaper]

Why do we have two threads of the same topic? Well anyways, what hasn't been said about quickscoping? It's simply not sniping and it takes advantage of the high power of sniper rifles so you can use it as an assault weapon. This shouldn't be the case, snipers should be snipers, domination in long range, weak in short range.

In comparison to noobtubers, I respect quickscopers more than noobtubers because at least for quickscoping, you gotta sit down for a few hours and learn how to do as opposed to just pressing a button and getting several kills. But it's basically exploiting the stupidity of the developers, and I don't have much respect for that. I'm rather getting tired of hearing people saying "Just because it's in the game, it's legitimate", because it isn't. If the developers released some sort of aimbot or ability to get "under the map" if you were last prestige or some instant "I win" button when you've gotten 25 nukes and they say that it was intentional, would you say that it's fair since it's part of the game?

If you've ever played "Gunz: The Duel", you will know that in that game, the entire gameplay revolves around an exploit that allows you shoot rocket launchers almost instantly and basically kill you in less time than it takes you to process what happens. The community in that game claims it's part of the game when the developers haven't acknowledged it and the community practically goes berserk over anyone that says otherwise.

 

[^=ash=^]

Quickscoping takes skill? ..And gives little reward ... are you serious. I haven't got to level 70 once, my KDR is just over 1.15 yet I managed to play with a group of people and got 30 - 9 when quickscoping. I am an average player in my mind.

As previously stated, it is just luck and use of the aim assist. Skill is not a factor, as a sniper shot is nearly always a 1 hit kill.

 

[Naheal]

its faggy, you going to use a sniper.. use it properlly, dont run around lucking every kill, thats why the world has a problem with you. You are just as bad as noob tubers.

I'm a quick scoper and no scoper, and no its not "faggy", would you mind not being so hateful in future.

its funny because I consider snipers that sit in one spot to be not using the guns ability to its fullest.

We take completely separate approaches. I prefer finding a perch/ambush spot with a silenced hard-scoped sniper rifle. I tend to consider folks who run around with their rifle just to quick scope down targets to be missing the point behind sniping, but both are legitimate tactics.

"Combat sniper" vs "ambush sniper". Both valid techniques, but I prefer a burst-fire weapon for the former.

 

[Durendarte]

Why shouldn't you use a sniper rifle that way? It's harder than any other way of playing the game so surely there's no problem with it?

If the game mechanics allow you, by all means, do it. But quickscoping feels unnatural to me, sniper rifles are supposed to be long range, suppressive fire weapons, not one hit kill, aim-assisted shotguns. If the game allows people to effectively play like that it's simply not the game for me.

 

[Radeonx]

I personally hate quickscopers. They're running around with a weapon that can OHK at any range. That doesn't make for a terribly balanced game.

The assault rifles are 2-3 bullet kills at any range and are fully automatic (Save one gun that's semi), so the game is ridiculously imbalanced overall.

 

[TimeLord]

I don't mind quickscoping. I only find it annoying because I can't do it myself

 

[park92]

there should be more quickscopers they are too easy to take down

 

[BadassCyborg]

The fact that the term 'hard scope' is used at all when discussing sniping is a pretty sorry state of affairs

 

[EHKOS]

I respect them. It takes skill to do that.

 

[DigitalSushi]

its faggy, you going to use a sniper.. use it properlly, dont run around lucking every kill, thats why the world has a problem with you. You are just as bad as noob tubers.

I'm a quick scoper and no scoper, and no its not "faggy", would you mind not being so hateful in future.

its funny because I consider snipers that sit in one spot to be not using the guns ability to its fullest.

We take completely separate approaches. I prefer finding a perch/ambush spot with a silenced hard-scoped sniper rifle. I tend to consider folks who run around with their rifle just to quick scope down targets to be missing the point behind sniping, but both are legitimate tactics.

"Combat sniper" vs "ambush sniper". Both valid techniques, but I prefer a burst-fire weapon for the former.

I take your argument and agree with both being a legitimate strategy Naheal, I will however say this young esquire of wordiness, I love rushing an opposing teams sniper.

I can actually ambush opponents with a long range weapon, its hugely satisfying when another sniper decides to hunt me and gets creamed.

Have you got a PS3 with KillZone 2?, I thoroughly recommend it, the Scout class has the ability to turn invisible while not moving which would suit your play style, the more you move the more visible you are.


Its the class I use, but I actually run around the map being a nutter even though he's shit in close quarters, I just love looking like an Evil Sonic the Hedgehog.

edit, that came across as "Hey I'm awesome at sniping, and buy a PS3", that was not my intention, so I'd like to apologise.

 

[CobraX]

Nothing wrong with it....as long as they hold their own. I swear I rarely see quickscoper who go positive. I don't need idoits like that on my team. Either hold your own or switch to a different weapon

 

[ParkourMcGhee]

A tactic is a tactic, use it or have it used against you. That's my opinion on all of these games, if it's so game "breakingly" bad then why are you playing that game?

Actually I don't play the game, just because of this amount of game-breaking faults (and practically no hardcore mode). If I could go back to the day I bought it and stop myself, I would.

This among other things would never happen in real life, and since MeeWee2 is trying to be realistic, it fails. Epically. For ref I play MW1, CSS, and BC2.

 

[Freeze_L]

Not only that but Valve put in an intentional delay in the Sniper's rifle where you can't quickscope. It won't register a headshot for, I think, 40ms or so after you scope in.

i got a no scope head shot once, and pick pepole off quickly with sniper, i do not believe there is a delay in tf2.

Pepole hate quick-scopers because of the 2 extremes, they either are great players who should be doing scrims not playing lobby, or they are poor players who miss every shot. There is not much of an in between, also most pepole would not mind the good players as much except there are so many new players who try to copy them. Eventually in any game trying to play like the pros will get you good, but until you have logged your hundredth hour you are just a hindrance.

 

[Snotnarok]

It's just as bad as people running and jumping around with a shotgun, let's see you jump while firing ANY shotgun that isn't a AA12, you will get knocked on your ass and probably break something. Just like firing a god damn .50 caliber sniper rifle while jumping, you will get hurt. MW2 is supposed to be about some form of realistic shooting but it's just an unbalanced joke with broken gameplay elements that people exploit.

And it is an exploit because if you can't aim straight while walking in game you're not going to aim straight while running and jumping just because you brought up your scope to aim. That thirty pound .50 caliber rifle is going to knock you on your ass.