You Can't Be the Hero If You're the Rapist

Andy Chalk

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You Can't Be the Hero If You're the Rapist

Gamers don't bat an eye at violence in murder at games. Why is the crime of rape so different?

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WrongSprite

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THANK god. I haven't read this yet, but i'm glad somebody shares this viewpoint.
 

Andy Chalk

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Just responding to the question in the OP: Because murder can be justified.
See also: Dexter.

Rape can never serve a good purpose.

And now to read.

EDIT: Well fuck. It looks like you pretty much agree completely.
That's actually a bit weird.
Or maybe it's just a more common viewpoint than I thought.
 

WrongSprite

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MaxTheReaper said:
Just responding to the question in the OP: Because murder can be justified.
See also: Dexter.

Rape can never serve a good purpose.

And now to read.
I give you GTA4. Is cutting down civilians justified? Then maybe they should both be banned.
 

Cpt_Oblivious

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In answer to the OP (before Reading), I think it's called the protagonist then.
And I don't understand how or why they'd make rape games.

Now for the reading.
 

wolfy098

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....... Ok IF this becomes another flame war i'll track you down and kill you

Murder can only be justifyed if you are:

On a battlefield - because the enemy came into the fight knowing they may die
In self defence
Or in other extreme curcumstances
 

Andy Chalk

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WrongSprite said:
I give you GTA4. Is cutting down civilians justified? Then maybe they should both be banned.
Depends. Are they pissing me off?

I didn't say either game should be banned. I am fully against censorship, no matter how bad something may be.
I pretty much agree with Maly and his article on this one.

Though I personally have no problem with murder at all. I'm just horrible that way, I suppose.
 

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WrongSprite said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Just responding to the question in the OP: Because murder can be justified.
See also: Dexter.

Rape can never serve a good purpose.

And now to read.
I give you GTA4. Is cutting down civilians justified? Then maybe they should both be banned.
Technically you aren't forced to cut down civilians.
 

Legion

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It needs a spell check, it says "Rape on the other hand, can ever be justified" as opposed to "never", either that or we have all completely misinterpreted the article...

Tenmar said:
Malygris said:
Rape, on the other hand, can ever be justified.
Just pointing out the typo.

Good article. Also a holocaust tycoon? Oh man I can't even imagine the amount of controvery.
You got Ninja'd =P
 

WrongSprite

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Cliff_m85 said:
WrongSprite said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Just responding to the question in the OP: Because murder can be justified.
See also: Dexter.

Rape can never serve a good purpose.

And now to read.
I give you GTA4. Is cutting down civilians justified? Then maybe they should both be banned.
Technically you aren't forced to cut down civilians.
Does it matter...? The possibility is there, and you know that a lot of people are going to do it.
 

Andy Chalk

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Malygris said:
Rape, on the other hand, can ever be justified.
Just pointing out the typo.

Good article. Also a holocaust tycoon? Oh man I can't even imagine the amount of controvery.
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
WrongSprite said:
MaxTheReaper said:
Just responding to the question in the OP: Because murder can be justified.
See also: Dexter.

Rape can never serve a good purpose.

And now to read.
I give you GTA4. Is cutting down civilians justified? Then maybe they should both be banned.
Technically you aren't forced to cut down civilians.
Bullseye. It's your choice if you kill any civilians, like it would be in a real city, but there aren't really any consequences. Thus why it is just a game, and does not really merge with real-life.
 

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I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lifes, so why a one sided view point by many.
 

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wolfy098 said:
....... Ok IF this becomes another flame war i'll track you down and kill you

Murder can only be justifyed if you are:

On a battlefield - because the enemy came into the fight knowing they may die
In self defence
Or in other extreme curcumstances
I think more to the point on a battlefield it wouldn't be murder because the enemy came to kill you also.

With self defence, surely that would be man slaughter at worst?

Anyways I dont think you can justify either murder or rape going on the lines of 'what gives one the right to do either'

Maybe rape is harder to accept because most of the time it is calculated and or planned against a weak victim which isn't always the case with murder.
 

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Teachingaddict said:
I've said it in previous threads...

I'll never ever touch a 'rape' game, however, murder or rape, whats the difference.....both can take and ruin lifes, so why a one sided view point by many.
Humans, especially men are aggressive creatures, that aggression used to needed in order to survive. Nowadays society doesn't require that aggression as humans are no longer hunter-gatherers or a prey species. This causes the species to remain instinctively aggressive but no longer having an outlet. Violent films/books/games provide an outlet for this aggression (as does martial arts and punch bags) and so people can gratify their need for violence without harming others.

Sexual desire on the other hand is completely different, it has never been necessary to commit rape, it serves no purpose and it is not in (most cases) our instincts to do it. It is also very unlikely that it will satisfy somebody who has the craving for it, at least not permanently and so creating a game has no benefit to anybody and is completely tasteless and offensive.
 
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MaxTheReaper said:
Just responding to the question in the OP: Because murder can be justified.
See also: Dexter.

Rape can never serve a good purpose.
Sometimes it can, as demonstrated by my dear friend Louis CK:


(I know, it's creeping me out too, I don't know how I can find all of this stuff that is pertinent to our discussion)
 

wolfy098

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Flushfacker said:
wolfy098 said:
....... Ok IF this becomes another flame war i'll track you down and kill you

Murder can only be justifyed if you are:

On a battlefield - because the enemy came into the fight knowing they may die
In self defence
Or in other extreme curcumstances
I think more to the point on a battlefield it wouldn't be murder because the enemy came to kill you also.

With self defence, surely that would be man slaughter at worst?

Anyways I dont think you can justify either murder or rape going on the lines of 'what gives one the right to do either'

Maybe rape is harder to accept because most of the time it is calculated and or planned against a weak victim which isn't always the case with murder.
hmm I always thought some would go for the strong ones for a challenge..
 

Andy Chalk

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The infamous SCAMola said:
Sometimes it can, as demonstrated by my dear friend Louis CK:


(I know, it's creeping me out too, I don't know how I can find all of this stuff that is pertinent to our discussion)
...Okay, fine, rape is acceptable if you're going back in time to rape Hitler.
But that's it.
wolfy098 said:
hmm I always thought some would go for the strong ones for a challenge..
Generally, no. Rape seems to happen to women and children, both "weaker" on average than the average man.
If you want a challenge, you challenge someone to a knife fight.
 

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I think more to the point, a rape game *glorifies* rape and is designed for the player to *get off* on what happens in it.

Games that involve violence tend to either be completely fantastical (we are battling demons, not people) and encourages the idea of "fighting evil"; in most cases where you're perpetrating harm "for the fun of it," the game is clear about putting you in a role of a criminal or in a situation where you are constantly being told something along the lines of "You have lost karma/you are Chaotic Evil" etc.

I somehow have a feeling RapeLay and its ilk doesn't put you in the role of a monster; it in fact normalizes and rewards simulating a horrific act. The violence in video games I don't feel is normalized or shown in a way to make people feel titillated by the experience. I guess some players might feel aroused by engaging in the gameplay violence, who knows, but I doubt that is the developers' intent. I definitely can't say the same for the developers who would develop a rape game.
 

HobbesMkii

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I think what really burns me is that someone's making a buck off the concept of allowing players to synthesize rape.

That said, I'm not sure that I'd want the game to be free (although, if you can't get it here in America, the only option is the freely illegal one).