Generic was the wrong word to use... Hmm... Prominent would work better now that I think about it. Do you know why world war 1 started? Because one man from a country in Europe got assassinated in a coloney of that country. Mmm, every war for the USA since WW2 has been like that. Vietnam ended the way it did because the U.S. was stupid. Modern war is dull to me either way, it's probably the technology... No matter, war is going to have to be banned in this world sooner or later or it will be the end of us, of course, that wont happen.Chris^^ said:generic? theres been no other war like it palMaskedMori said:Eh, WW2 is boring because it's really generic... WWI was just... Random. Vietnam was a little too guerilla for it to be intresting for me.Bobbovski said:Um... WWII =P Vietnam and WWI are pretty "nice" too.
and how exactly was ww1 random?
i dont find vietnam particularly interesting though, the shadow conflicts like that make me sick, america striding into a smaller countries war , blazing the old adage of democracy liberty and freedom, only to realise that ego and better technology count for nothing when fighting an enemy one doesn?t understand. They didn?t belong there and they got what they deserved IMHO
Pretty sure it's Winsten Churchill.Danik93 said:Jack Curchill... he is one of the most epic persons in the history of mankind.Radeonx said:World War II.
Just because of Jack Churchill.
Ridiculously evil? They weren't THAT evil, ridiculously evil would be much worse. Stalin started famines in other countries to bend them to his will, I'd say that's worse than genocide. When the Teutonic Order was started by Poland (Irony), they massacred Lithuania. Heh, come to think of it, the Teutonic Order resembles Nazi Germany very closely. Although I'd say the Order was more organized and uber than the Nazis. (No, I'm not saying Nazis are uber, they are boring in my eyes.) Still, that was the war that really inflated the US's ego.Citrus Insanity said:WWII.
The only war with a very clear evil side and a very clear good side. It's almost humorous how ridiculously evil the Nazis were; it's hard to imagine you'd see anything like that outside of fiction.
I see, I'll just call it the Teutonic war then.Double A said:7 days war between Israel and the Arabs. They seriously kicked major ass!
And closely following are the Crusades. They were some of the most interesting conflicts of mankind ever to take place, and Kingdoms makes them fun and historical!
The 100 years war was a fight between the British and French, and there really isn't a formal name for the war the Teutonic Order fought with Lithuania and later almost everyone in the area.MaskedMori said:Alright, I checked the first page for this topic and nothing came up that was remotly related so I'm sure this is originial. Now, there were a lot of wars in the past, the 100 years war, crusades, vietnam, WW2. I'm not saying that war is fun (Ok maybe it is to "Those who have not experienced it") I'm asking for the war you find most intresting. This can be any minor squabble to major war in history. As for me, I'd say it's a tie between the crusades, 1000/100 (Probably 100, I forget the name...) years war, or whatever they call that extermination of the Lithuanians by the Order.
Edit: If you hate war and think it's evil and such, so do I. That doesn't mean I'm not intrested in it. So if you're going to post somthing like "I have no favourite war because war is bad." that has nothing to do with this thread so it's pointless to post at all.
I find the cold war to be least intresting because it was just a build up of weaponry. No tactics, no intresting battles, only manufacturing weapons. It's not even a war really, war wasn't declared, more of a muscle flexing contest between two countries, and Russia must have pulled somthing in the end.WhiteTiger225 said:I find the coldwar most interesting because it's nice to see a war fought without killing people..MaskedMori said:Alright, I checked the first page for this topic and nothing came up that was remotly related so I'm sure this is originial. Now, there were a lot of wars in the past, the 100 years war, crusades, vietnam, WW2. I'm not saying that war is fun (Ok maybe it is to "Those who have not experienced it") I'm asking for the war you find most intresting. This can be any minor squabble to major war in history. As for me, I'd say it's a tie between the crusades, 1000/100 (Probably 100, I forget the name...) years war, or whatever they call that extermination of the Lithuanians by the Order.
Edit: If you hate war and think it's evil and such, so do I. That doesn't mean I'm not intrested in it. So if you're going to post somthing like "I have no favourite war because war is bad." that has nothing to do with this thread so it's pointless to post at all.
Wrong. There was a HUGE amount of strategy put into it. We basically kept marketing them weapons when they were building up to invade the united states after WWII. We marketed in such a way that before they knew it, their economy was utterly annihilated.MaskedMori said:I find the cold war to be least intresting because it was just a build up of weaponry. No tactics, no intresting battles, only manufacturing weapons. It's not even a war really, war wasn't declared, more of a muscle flexing contest between two countries, and Russia must have pulled somthing in the end.WhiteTiger225 said:I find the coldwar most interesting because it's nice to see a war fought without killing people..MaskedMori said:Alright, I checked the first page for this topic and nothing came up that was remotly related so I'm sure this is originial. Now, there were a lot of wars in the past, the 100 years war, crusades, vietnam, WW2. I'm not saying that war is fun (Ok maybe it is to "Those who have not experienced it") I'm asking for the war you find most intresting. This can be any minor squabble to major war in history. As for me, I'd say it's a tie between the crusades, 1000/100 (Probably 100, I forget the name...) years war, or whatever they call that extermination of the Lithuanians by the Order.
Edit: If you hate war and think it's evil and such, so do I. That doesn't mean I'm not intrested in it. So if you're going to post somthing like "I have no favourite war because war is bad." that has nothing to do with this thread so it's pointless to post at all.
Starving people is far worse indeed then murdering people across the globe, gassing jews, using jews for medical experiments, using their fat to make soap, using their bones to make buttons or marketing their skeletons to fund their war efforts to take over the world and wiping out anybody that didn't fit into their views of the master race.. yeah.. hitler wasn't that evil...MaskedMori said:Ridiculously evil? They weren't THAT evil, ridiculously evil would be much worse. Stalin started famines in other countries to bend them to his will, I'd say that's worse than genocide. When the Teutonic Order was started by Poland (Irony), they massacred Lithuania. Heh, come to think of it, the Teutonic Order resembles Nazi Germany very closely. Although I'd say the Order was more organized and uber than the Nazis. (No, I'm not saying Nazis are uber, they are boring in my eyes.) Still, that was the war that really inflated the US's ego.Citrus Insanity said:WWII.
The only war with a very clear evil side and a very clear good side. It's almost humorous how ridiculously evil the Nazis were; it's hard to imagine you'd see anything like that outside of fiction.
That was actually one of their generals that was using the Jews for medical experiments. Across the globe? It was in Germany and Poland, unless of course, you count the death toll of the war, but those are men that are ready to die. Starving people is far worse, because it's a lot more people, he starved entire countries. And massacred people in Ukrain.WhiteTiger225 said:Starving people is far worse indeed then murdering people across the globe, gassing jews, using jews for medical experiments, using their fat to make soap, using their bones to make buttons or marketing their skeletons to fund their war efforts to take over the world and wiping out anybody that didn't fit into their views of the master race.. yeah.. hitler wasn't that evil...MaskedMori said:Ridiculously evil? They weren't THAT evil, ridiculously evil would be much worse. Stalin started famines in other countries to bend them to his will, I'd say that's worse than genocide. When the Teutonic Order was started by Poland (Irony), they massacred Lithuania. Heh, come to think of it, the Teutonic Order resembles Nazi Germany very closely. Although I'd say the Order was more organized and uber than the Nazis. (No, I'm not saying Nazis are uber, they are boring in my eyes.) Still, that was the war that really inflated the US's ego.Citrus Insanity said:WWII.
The only war with a very clear evil side and a very clear good side. It's almost humorous how ridiculously evil the Nazis were; it's hard to imagine you'd see anything like that outside of fiction.
*Facepalms* right.. The nazis were only in poland and germany... They didn't attempt to invade Africa, they didn't take over france, they weren't making their way to britian who kept saying "Don't cross this line or we'll make anotherl ine and tell you not to cross it" the nazis didn't attack the russians... Next you are going to claim the hollocaust never happened >.<MaskedMori said:That was actually one of their generals that was using the Jews for medical experiments. Across the globe? It was in Germany and Poland, unless of course, you count the death toll of the war, but those are men that are ready to die. Starving people is far worse, because it's a lot more people, he starved entire countries. And massacred people in Ukrain.WhiteTiger225 said:Starving people is far worse indeed then murdering people across the globe, gassing jews, using jews for medical experiments, using their fat to make soap, using their bones to make buttons or marketing their skeletons to fund their war efforts to take over the world and wiping out anybody that didn't fit into their views of the master race.. yeah.. hitler wasn't that evil...MaskedMori said:Ridiculously evil? They weren't THAT evil, ridiculously evil would be much worse. Stalin started famines in other countries to bend them to his will, I'd say that's worse than genocide. When the Teutonic Order was started by Poland (Irony), they massacred Lithuania. Heh, come to think of it, the Teutonic Order resembles Nazi Germany very closely. Although I'd say the Order was more organized and uber than the Nazis. (No, I'm not saying Nazis are uber, they are boring in my eyes.) Still, that was the war that really inflated the US's ego.Citrus Insanity said:WWII.
The only war with a very clear evil side and a very clear good side. It's almost humorous how ridiculously evil the Nazis were; it's hard to imagine you'd see anything like that outside of fiction.
did you mean the prime minister, or the guy that killed Nazis with a sword and a bow?MaskedMori said:Pretty sure it's Winsten Churchill.Danik93 said:Jack Curchill... he is one of the most epic persons in the history of mankind.Radeonx said:World War II.
Just because of Jack Churchill.
The prime minister... I'm guessing you meant the crazed Nazi killing fanatic.Danik93 said:did you mean the prime minister, or the guy that killed Nazis with a sword and a bow?MaskedMori said:Pretty sure it's Winsten Churchill.Danik93 said:Jack Curchill... he is one of the most epic persons in the history of mankind.Radeonx said:World War II.
Just because of Jack Churchill.
Yea http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill here you got some info of himMaskedMori said:The prime minister... I'm guessing you meant the crazed Nazi killing fanatic.Danik93 said:did you mean the prime minister, or the guy that killed Nazis with a sword and a bow?MaskedMori said:Pretty sure it's Winsten Churchill.Danik93 said:Jack Curchill... he is one of the most epic persons in the history of mankind.Radeonx said:World War II.
Just because of Jack Churchill.
alright i see what you were getting at there, a lot of people focus on it *guilty*, but the assassination of archduke ferdinand was a final trigger, there had been the buildup there for years, the assassination was just the straw that broke the camels back.MaskedMori said:Generic was the wrong word to use... Hmm... Prominent would work better now that I think about it. Do you know why world war 1 started? Because one man from a country in Europe got assassinated in a coloney of that country. Mmm, every war for the USA since WW2 has been like that. Vietnam ended the way it did because the U.S. was stupid. Modern war is dull to me either way, it's probably the technology... No matter, war is going to have to be banned in this world sooner or later or it will be the end of us, of course, that wont happen.Chris^^ said:generic? theres been no other war like it palMaskedMori said:Eh, WW2 is boring because it's really generic... WWI was just... Random. Vietnam was a little too guerilla for it to be intresting for me.Bobbovski said:Um... WWII =P Vietnam and WWI are pretty "nice" too.
and how exactly was ww1 random?
i dont find vietnam particularly interesting though, the shadow conflicts like that make me sick, america striding into a smaller countries war , blazing the old adage of democracy liberty and freedom, only to realise that ego and better technology count for nothing when fighting an enemy one doesn?t understand. They didn?t belong there and they got what they deserved IMHO
in fairness, i dont see whats evil about using bodies after they are dead..WhiteTiger225 said:*Facepalms* right.. The nazis were only in poland and germany... They didn't attempt to invade Africa, they didn't take over france, they weren't making their way to britian who kept saying "Don't cross this line or we'll make anotherl ine and tell you not to cross it" the nazis didn't attack the russians... Next you are going to claim the hollocaust never happened >.<MaskedMori said:That was actually one of their generals that was using the Jews for medical experiments. Across the globe? It was in Germany and Poland, unless of course, you count the death toll of the war, but those are men that are ready to die. Starving people is far worse, because it's a lot more people, he starved entire countries. And massacred people in Ukrain.WhiteTiger225 said:Starving people is far worse indeed then murdering people across the globe, gassing jews, using jews for medical experiments, using their fat to make soap, using their bones to make buttons or marketing their skeletons to fund their war efforts to take over the world and wiping out anybody that didn't fit into their views of the master race.. yeah.. hitler wasn't that evil...MaskedMori said:Ridiculously evil? They weren't THAT evil, ridiculously evil would be much worse. Stalin started famines in other countries to bend them to his will, I'd say that's worse than genocide. When the Teutonic Order was started by Poland (Irony), they massacred Lithuania. Heh, come to think of it, the Teutonic Order resembles Nazi Germany very closely. Although I'd say the Order was more organized and uber than the Nazis. (No, I'm not saying Nazis are uber, they are boring in my eyes.) Still, that was the war that really inflated the US's ego.Citrus Insanity said:WWII.
The only war with a very clear evil side and a very clear good side. It's almost humorous how ridiculously evil the Nazis were; it's hard to imagine you'd see anything like that outside of fiction.
And yes.. a NAZI general did those horrible medical experiments on living, awake jews...
War always brings technilogical advancements... and experiments on dead bodies? Who said they were dead? They would cut open jews while they were alive and awake to test their poisons, gasses, and other chemicals to see how they worked on the human body. Hitler ordered the murders of far more people then Stalin. Did you never read the fuckin fact that Stalin's death toll Keeps jumping around from historian to historian? Ranging from 2 million directly accounted for rather then accounting those who died from neglect, to 120 million claimed by "Records" found that get quickly disproved? some claim 60 million, but again, theres no fact. Try searching "Stalin's death Toll vs Hitler's" And what do you get? Anti communist sights that are going to fear monger by making up statistics. And might I add, Stalin ALSO killing mostly his own people, while hitler was trying to rule the fucking WORLD.Chris^^ said:in fairness, i dont see whats evil about using bodies after they are dead..WhiteTiger225 said:*Facepalms* right.. The nazis were only in poland and germany... They didn't attempt to invade Africa, they didn't take over france, they weren't making their way to britian who kept saying "Don't cross this line or we'll make anotherl ine and tell you not to cross it" the nazis didn't attack the russians... Next you are going to claim the hollocaust never happened >.<MaskedMori said:That was actually one of their generals that was using the Jews for medical experiments. Across the globe? It was in Germany and Poland, unless of course, you count the death toll of the war, but those are men that are ready to die. Starving people is far worse, because it's a lot more people, he starved entire countries. And massacred people in Ukrain.WhiteTiger225 said:Starving people is far worse indeed then murdering people across the globe, gassing jews, using jews for medical experiments, using their fat to make soap, using their bones to make buttons or marketing their skeletons to fund their war efforts to take over the world and wiping out anybody that didn't fit into their views of the master race.. yeah.. hitler wasn't that evil...MaskedMori said:Ridiculously evil? They weren't THAT evil, ridiculously evil would be much worse. Stalin started famines in other countries to bend them to his will, I'd say that's worse than genocide. When the Teutonic Order was started by Poland (Irony), they massacred Lithuania. Heh, come to think of it, the Teutonic Order resembles Nazi Germany very closely. Although I'd say the Order was more organized and uber than the Nazis. (No, I'm not saying Nazis are uber, they are boring in my eyes.) Still, that was the war that really inflated the US's ego.Citrus Insanity said:WWII.
The only war with a very clear evil side and a very clear good side. It's almost humorous how ridiculously evil the Nazis were; it's hard to imagine you'd see anything like that outside of fiction.
And yes.. a NAZI general did those horrible medical experiments on living, awake jews...
but yes, the nazis were undeniably evil in the upper echelons at least, they were sadistic, murderous, psychopathic bastards.. but not all of them. there were many technological advancements under nazi leadership..
but i would argue that stalin was at least hitlers equal, ordering the massacres of far more of his own people than hitler did, any who opposed stalin were either executed or sent to gulags - forced labour camps. sound familiar?
stalin had far more blood on his hands than hitler did, but wasnt immediatly opposed because he was on the 'good' side.
but there are far more brutal organisations throughout history, some of which have already been mentioned. however the good/evil line is fairly prominent *IF* one isolates WW2 from context.