Well... if one chooses to wade into the muck of the GamerGate/Anti-GamerGate war, it gives the impression that it's pretty bad. And I do that, set up my lawn chair for a bit, but I'm a terrible person that just gets interested in stupid drama that doesn't concern me.
At the same time, I've met and am Twitter friends a variety of nerds, geeks, gamers. All very good people that I'm not ashamed of in the least of being friends with. They don't even necessarily have the same values as me, they're just not assholes and they have a sense of humor.
Here's what's good. I go up to someone around my age or younger (I'm 27) and say, "Batman right?" and regardless of the response it will never be what I've heard from some of the older guys I work with (40+) thinking I'm too old for that "kiddy-shit". It's more of a social stigma if you've abandoned shit you've enjoyed just to fit some odd ideal of being an adult that quite frankly never existed. You never stop being a child, your responsibilities just change, ya know?
A lot of the negative crap, from my perspective, are very loud minorities in terms of numbers. And I can fully understand people rallying against the SJ stuff, because the "SJW" folk really really do a shit job of enlightening people and really do come across as elitist. I say this all the time, I wouldn't understand it as well as I do now had I not had a really patient professor that could explain it and break it down without judgement.
Also when the hell did calling somebody a "Cuck" and "Beta" start being a thing? That has to been teenagers right? Because it sounds childish as hell, I can't take a person seriously if I see them tweeting that shit.
Phasmal said:
Eh, geek culture is a fuckin' dumpster fire in my opinion.
Too many people have defined themselves by how exclusionary it is. They feel constantly like underdogs, despite the fact that geek culture has never been more mainstream. They talk about how they suffered for being nerds while labelling people who get death threats from nerds as professional victims. There's always someone ready to tell you that the thing you enjoy is wrong, or you enjoy it in the wrong way, or you're not the right kind of person to be enjoying it in the first place.
Im Just using this as a jumping off point for a tangent Phas.
it depends on the genre of geekdom still I think. ProWrestling fans, Smarks as they say, are still looked down upon somehow and haven't gotten that mainstream acceptance like say... Anime is really starting to get now, and video games have had for a while.
Maybe thats why, somewhat ironically, Wrestling and Wrestling fans have been incorporating and been way more rapidly progressive than the other subjects. Check out the Wreddit, not a nerd on there is questioning the rise in the quality and prominence of Women's Wrestling lately.
On a side note, I think age might play something into that whole idea of being shunned and what not. Moviebob (Unrelated note, Fuck MovieBob) I know has spoken at length about that very feeling, and I recalled seeing it being displayed that way in media growing up. Ya know the whole reading comic books in the basement, Dungeons and Dragons bullshit. Actually Spoony also said he caught shit for being into D&D when he was in high school. But there is also a significant age difference between me and those guys, so at some point there was a huge culture shift where people stopped giving a shit.
