You're thrown into a war... what role do you play?

[BobGrim]

I would probably be a driver or mechanic. Or in worst case, medic... Not even close to as awesome as it seems. I mean, a week back I fired a gun for the first time ever (both 9mm and some .357 magnum revolver-ish, have no clue but w/e) and I kinda realised how unrealistic movies/games are and how much I dont want to do that in a sharp situation. Was quite fun shooting at targets tho.

 

[ElPatron]

You do realise a battle rifle is just a select fire assault rifle that fires a full power cartridge. As in what I was talking about.

A battle rifle uses a full rifle cartridge. 7.62x51 NATO, 7.62x54R, etc. It does not matter if it has select fire or not.

An assault rifle uses an intermediate cartridge, such as the 5.56x45 NATO or 7.62x39. It is generally less accurate and only effective up to 300m or so. It has a select fire capability, it takes detachable magazines, and other features like pistol grips and stocks (which can also be "folding" or "collapsible" stocks).


So basically, the assault rifle is a concept that originated during WWII because the Germans sacrificed the long range performance of their 8mm Mauser and cut down the cartridge to make a less powerful but very effective in closer ranges 8mm Kurz.


In short, an assault rifle is intended for close/intermediate ranges and it is not suitable for DMR purposes. Their range often exceeds 700m.

 

[llew]

the same as my role in all conflicts i have entered (fights, paintballing, lazer zone, shooters etc) designated distraction... thats right, im the unfortunate bastard that gets shot at so others can do their thing... and i do it brilliantly

 

[BOOM headshot65]

Astronaut to repair and maintain our orbital missile systems. Hope there aren't any EMP attacks...

Except that since there are naturally occuring EMP's in space, most satllites are EMP-proof.

I know, but what if I'm doing a space walk?

Most space-based equipment is EMP-proof, again because of natural EMP's, and EMP's rarely affect humans. So you should be fine.

 

[razor343]

Definitely a Sniper. Gimme my Dragunov and I'll cause some carnage

 

[ElPatron]

You bolded the part that is wrong. A battle rifle is not an assault rifle and an assault rifle is not a battle rifle.

Also, a battle rifle does not require select fire. The argument that "the older ones didn't have select fire" is pretty much moot, because the FN FAL is a select fire battle rifle and the british used the L1A1 variant which was stripped down of it's full auto capability.




At most, assault rifles derive from battle rifles, not the opposite. Like 2x is a derivation from x^2 and not the opposite.

a battle rifle is just a select fire assault rifle

To be an assault rifle, a weapon needs select fire anyway. Only battle rifles are exempt from that restriction. Which means that no matter what, if you upgrade an assault rifle to battle rifle status you can't really introduce full auto/burst fire because it is already there.



Even semantics are against your post. Assault rifles were intended to "storm"/"assault" enemy positions in closer ranges.


So I accept you are not incorrect, but you can't argue that your post is worded right.

 

[Dark Prophet]

I'm the one who runs like hell away any real armed conflict.

 

[Frankster]

I'll play the army psychologist and stay at home base so won't be anywhere near the battlefield in theory.

I'll be getting to know you all as you pass your various psych reports, be there when you develop PTSD amongst other mental disorders and just try to keep you as mentally sane as I can and make sure you all don't fall into pieces when the realization of your own mortality and that of others hits you.

I'm the one who runs like hell away any real armed conflict.

Remember to ask me or one of the docs for some kind of medical discharge or papers saying you have some kinda problems lest this is the kinda war where they shoot deserters.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

The defender of the corner of crying.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Red-shirt, reporting in!

...
Oh, you meant POSITIONS, not roles.../quote]

That is a position. It is called front line infantry.

 

[M0rp43vs]

Well I'd be that guy missing his trousers, wearing heart dotted boxers, some groucho marx glasses, a bandolier full of explosives and cans of rations and a frilly pink hat,
wielding a knife, a wooden spoon and a raging stiffie(having downed an entire bottles worth of viagra before battle),
screaming "I'M A LITTLE TEAPOT SHORT AND STOUT!" before charging across the battlefield singing songs from My Little Pony at the top of my lungs in high falsetto
Taking bets as to what manner I will end up as a cadaver

What?

 

[pro1337tariat]

I would want to be a tank commander, a fighter pilot, a ship captain, or tactitian. Something to keep me away from the fighting.

All of those are spots that put you into the fighting though. Hell three of are prime targets. I mean its the all the cool stuff certainly, but any real war, it certainly isn't safe

 

[BOOM headshot65]

I would want to be a tank commander, a fighter pilot, a ship captain, or tactitian. Something to keep me away from the fighting.

All of those are spots that put you into the fighting though. Hell three of are prime targets. I mean its the all the cool stuff certainly, but any real war, it certainly isn't safe

Yes, those spots are still unsafe, but they are still FAR safer than being on foot. Althought, I would most likely be tactitian or ship captain. Why? Tatctitian because I love to stratigize and think thought stratagy problems, and am really good at it, and ship captain because I would have at least 50 tons of armor around me, and if I am sunk, I am an excellent swimmer.

 

[thylasos]

Working in an intelligence bureau in translation, I'd imagine.

 

[ElPatron]

I never claimed to have worded it right. But generally, people don't make the distinction between an assault rifle and a battle rifle.

Generally, people never care.

In passing conversation either can be used.

In passive conversation people call semi-auto rifles "rifles" and full automatic rifles "machine-guns". So what?
This is not passive conversation as we are specifically talking about a military theme.

And the newest assault rifles can use 7.62x51, along with an assortment of other calibres after changing the barrel.

You are thinking of the Masada design eventually built by Bushmaster and Remington as the ACR?

That one can be changed to 6.8 SPC and 7.62x39 - both assault rifle calibres.

There is literally no distinction to be made anymore.

If that is so why was the SCAR (a very modern rifle) adopted by the US military in it's Mk 17 form and not Mk 16? There are distinctions between them, even if they look almost the same. One is a battle rifle, other is an assault rifle. Simple as that.

They've even got assault rifles that you can set to open bolt.

I already said most of the characteristics of assault rifles. Bolt or operation are not relevant.