Ultratwinkie said:
I am talking about white privilege in America. The same place where the civil rights movement was in the 1970s and still continues now. Hardly 150 years ago.
And Again. I am not talking about YOU PERSONALLY. White Privilege exist in a STATISTICAL SPACE. A level BIGGER THAN YOU.
yeah i know where you're talking about, and id still like to see some charts.
This is the cycle:
Racism devalues black man. Gets lower wage.[
Black man raises child.
Chance A -> Child just happens to work hard. White child accepted into college instead of him.
yes, i can get a scholarship for being white....oh wait no i cant, but minorities can even if they have a GPA of 1.7
Child works in low wage environment in a college job oriented country. Rinse and repeat.
thats everyone.....EVERYONE. thats not even remotely black exclusive, or minority exclusive.
If Child is accepted, the child has a harder time getting work because of his race.
unless a company needs to fill their bullshit affirmative action quota.
Chance B -> Family can't afford college.
Child works in low wage under crippling college debt. Child couldn't find work due to his race. Rinse and repeat until hope is dead.
again, how is that black or minority exclusive? you think white people have a money tree? we dont.
Hell, A California did a study on this in 2003.
oh this ought to be good.
Racism has practically screwed minorities either into a never ending cycle of poverty or limiting how high a normal person can achieve. Its much like the feminist's use of the word "glass ceiling." A poverty cycle that is very hard to break and very easy to slip back into. Its still a very real problem, and that is the reason affirmative action EXISTS. Its so the poverty cycle CAN be broken and that EVERYONE has the SAME chances at life. Its not reverse racism, its helping people have a shot at escaping the ghetto and actually have hope of doing something without fear of sliding back into poverty.
ok first off. thats not a study, thats a bullshit statement. i'll tell you what the problem is....trying to push 'white privilege ' or 'white guilt' and creating a scapegoat per se, to where the 'victim' can casually blame their short comings on someone else instead of bettering themselves and improving...of course, gang culture and sheer moral corruption in popular culture isnt helping either.
But we don't live in that perfect world. Not everyone has the same chances you have and not everyone is treated the same. Its an appealing sentiment, but not a realistic one that takes real world problems into account.
of course it isnt a perfect world, racism does exist, slavery DID happen (to everyone, it isnt remotely back exclusive) everyone has been a dick to everyone else at one point or another..
but luckily, America has finally come to the point where everyone is on equal ground. You cant use racism as an excuse anymore. racism is not the reason why 30% of blacks live in poverty, its not the reason why the biggest killers of black men are other black men. the real reason is the culture they live in. and its not all of them, but its a too large amount.
yes, every now and then, racism will strike, but its not as big of a problem as people say. and to say its a big reason why blacks and other minorities have a higher poverty rate or a harder time in this country is a narrow minded, claim used to make people feel better and not have to rely as much on self responsibility.
its as ignorant as a trailer trash white fat bastard blaming jews for his poverty.
We are not a post race society yet. Thousands of years of racism doesn't go away over night or when Obama took office. There is still a lot of ways to go. A lot of issues that need to be solved.
there is no such thing. there will never be such a thing. besides the fact i can honestly say ive experienced more openly racist blacks than whites, any anthropologist will tell you race is not skin deep, its body structure, mindset, and (controversial statement ahead, dont take it the wrong way) intelligence. not to mention culture and environmental differences.
instead of viewing everyone as 'the human race' we should acknowledge and work with the differences in race and ethnicity, then you will become a truly tolerant nation. the more you push us together, the more we repel, you have to find the right spot to where we have the perfect pull and push. odd magnetic analogy but you should be able to get my drift.
To say that minorities don't work hard is like breaking a man legs then blaming him for his leg being broken. Its unfair, and frankly exudes a persecution complex.
im not saying because you're of a certain race you dont work hard, i claim that certain races (not the whole race, but a large chunk) have come under mindset that has the consequence that they don't need to work as hard. and i know people are going to impale me on a pike for that, but you people know im right because we over compensated for racism and started pandering.
No one is coming to hurt you. The "scary" black man isn't scary.
i could be a smart ass and post the stat that whites are more likely to be a victim of a black on white crime than the other way around by a significant margin....but im just going to move on.
The woman isn't coming to castrate you and take your stuff. To use this "us vs them" mentality against helping correct problems set in motion in the past is severely paranoid. Around the same level as people who think Red Dawn will happen in 2012. This mentality on the Escapist has to stop because it stopped being cute and is now well into the "creepy" category and getting extremely near "Fox News" level of fear.
oh good, a fox news joke....nice to see we're aiming high...also red dawn is a movie...just a movie. and a fun one with patrick swayze and the kid from drake and josh.
also im not 'scared of women' im scared people are going to believe these STUPID women who believe they're oppressed or discriminated over the most trivial bullshit. tax payers dont need to pay for your birth control lady, either have some self control or learn to do the 69...which will make both parties happy.
the worst ones are the ones walking around topless with writing in marker on them saying "Still not asking for it" when ...yes....you are.....you honest to god are. no matter how you put it, you're just asking for trouble doing stupid shit like that. if i went around without pants and underwear, i guarantee someone will kick me in the balls.
Also, this 'war on women' thing is nothing more and a left wing media created controversy that didnt exist until they had to get Romney out of the presidential picture.
which is ironic, because the republican politicians actually paid their women more...and hired them more...and bush had more minority cabinet members than Clinton or Obama.
So in short, white [male] privilege is nothing more than a scapegoat to shrug off responsibility, to pander, or to falsely explain stuff that if one where to explain they'd be labeled as a sexiest/racist/bigot/ ect....or a fox news contributor if your on Reddit or the escapist or you think you have a sense of humor. *cough* john Stewart*cough*
also you never did post those Charts and graphs.