Zero Punctuation: Enslaved: Odyssey to the West

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Enslaved: Odyssey to the West

This week, Zero Punctuation reviews Enslaved: Odyssey to the West.

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Ha that was funny. I still need to play Enslaved for myself but I can't be bothered with Halo: Reach sitting right there...
 

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I'm glad he mention how this game was NOTHING RELATED TO JOURNEY TO THE WEST!!

Anyone wanna tell me why Western culture has this fascination with that story?

Leave that story to Damon Albarn, Ninja Theory...
 

Lord Beautiful

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Lovely review. This one actually got me to laugh, particularly with the "sucked off in a wind tunnel" line.
 

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Well I thought Enslaved would be shit. I was right.

EDIT: Boogaboogaboogabooga!!!! 0_o ...... XD

Jesus, chill out.
 

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xD Halo would probably benefit from being based on Pride and Predujic.. That.

I wonder what writers like that would think of games.
 

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"The Platforming is linear to the point of being prohibitive." That's all I needed to hear. The only thing about Enslaved that had me interested from the beginning was the chance to really explore this massive apocalypse/nature re-imagining, and I suspected from gameplay videos that it wasn't likely that was going to happen. Then Yahtzee, who I know has a love for exploration given his previous statements, hits the final nail in the coffin. No Enslaved, I'm not going to buy you. I'm not going to rent you. Thank you, Yahtzee.
 

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I've been looking forward to this all week, and now I fell ... a bit underwhelmed actualy.

I must admit that the review went pretty much the way I expected but the uncharacteristicly small number of curses, jokes at the game's expence, and general "Laugh My Ass Off" moments left me feeling a bit shorted. To me this seemed like he just kind of went through it just for the sake of getting it done.
 

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After reading several reviews on this game Im not surprised at your response. Good review though.
 

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Whatever happened to original ideas?

I like good sequels, reboots and reimaginings too but it's pretty clear the tank of good, appropriate ideas has run dry.
 

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It's hard to tell a good game from a bad one with Yahtzee... I understand, that its not the goal in these ranting reviews, but maybe some kind of shitometer would be appropriate to tell is the game worth buying or not? For instance other reviews of C:LoS made me quite confident i wanna play it. And watching Yahtzee's episode about it i can really tell no difference in the attitude in comparison to this one.
 

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Ironic.
This is the only week I said you probably wouldn't review this then you did.

Anyway, yeah, similar sentiments really.

Another thing that seemed off was the pacing. All up to the wind-farm seemed like the first act, but it ended up being the first two thirds of the whole game. It really rushed it after that.

Still fun though. I actually thought the combat was pretty intense.
 

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Lmfao Oh man, I was rolling with this one. I'm in my College's library right now and getting funny looks as I try to hold back my laughter haha
 

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I'd almost say this game is worse than Heavenly Sword; atleast there the combat was halfway decent.

With Enslaved the platforming aswell as the combat controls feel like a rusty doorknob.
 

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Yep, great looking game that requires little skill to complete. I enjoyed the story as well until the ending kinda just gives up on you. With little chance for a sequel I really wished for more closure.

I'm surprised he didn't mention the pig.
 

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Hmm, well if he wants to play a game actually moreso based on "Journey to the West", I'd recommend... Saiyuki: Journey West, yeah... not the most original name I know.

Though, I wonder if he'd be able to last past the opening theme, it does have a rather creepy need to repeatedly state that Goku is indeed a "magic san/sun/son".
 

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AlissaX70 said:
I'm glad he mention how this game was NOTHING RELATED TO JOURNEY TO THE WEST!!

Anyone wanna tell me why Western culture has this fascination with that story?

Leave that story to Damon Albarn, Ninja Theory...
I think I have a good reason why that can be summed up in three simple letters: D-B-Z.
 

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HEHE. Cheeky monkey.

I actually thoroughly enjoyed the imps wearing the robot hats that were portraying the baddies. Good stuff.
 

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haha, pretty much sums up all the bad things about Enslaved. I still liked it though because of characters including the oinker.
 

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Funny review.

Game doesn't really stand out for me. But im surprised he didn't make anything of the fact that Andy Serkis was "Monkey's" voice.

But thats all ive seen about this game on the adverts. It just says voiced by Andy Serkis but doesn't tell us anything about the game...
 

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hahaahaahhaa still laughing from the Halo Pride and Prejudice bit

but now that he mentioned it...
 

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AlissaX70 said:
I'm glad he mention how this game was NOTHING RELATED TO JOURNEY TO THE WEST!!

Anyone wanna tell me why Western culture has this fascination with that story?

Leave that story to Damon Albarn, Ninja Theory...
My understanding of why its so popular is firstly, that its one of the most classic stories of Buddhism, and secondly that the 1970s Japanese TV show based on the story was both hilarious and awesome so people are trying to recapture that.

Personally, I think that unless a game about Monkey has the 70s theme tune, Monkey Magic, it can go to hell.
 

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Actually a game really loosely based on Noah's Ark might be interesting. Like the world is dying for some reason and you have to create a base of genetic information that can be sent into space to start a new ecosystem elsewhere. There's not enough room for even a paltry number of people on the spaceship, though, so everyone is going to die, and they're probably cross about that. Oh, except maybe for Noah, since he has to tend the spaceship, but he built it and is the only one who can do it, so it's not selfishness. In fact, being the last human alive, hurtling through space (or shall he have some companions like in the Bible?) would be pretty lonely.

Theolos88 said:
It's hard to tell a good game from a bad one with Yahtzee... I understand, that its not the goal in these ranting reviews...
Kind of reaching for a facepalm macro here....I'll resist.

...but maybe some kind of shitometer would be appropriate to tell is the game worth buying or not?
It's kind of up to you to decide whether what he says adds up to the game having any interest for you. Try listening harder.
 
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Zeeky_Santos said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
I bet this has thrown everyone in the UK who forgot about BST.
BST?
Normally, ZP would be on at 5pm, but because of British Summer Time going back to Greenwich Mean Time, it's only 4pm now.

Yeah, we don't quite get it either.
 

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PAGEToap44 said:
Well I thought Enslaved would be shit. I was right.
No you weren't.
The gameplay is solid and the characters are very likeable (as even Yahtzee had to admit). I don't know if you've noticed but ZP mostly sides with the negative aspects of a game, so generally not worth using them to make an accurate judgement on a game. Maybe check out Susan Arendt's review? [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/8188-Review-Enslaved-Odyssey-to-the-West]
 

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Giant Laser Scorpions 4 Life!
Also looking forward to the epic Sci-fi re-imagining of King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table :D
 

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What is up with games trying to destroy Chinese epics? I'm looking at you Dynasty Warriors!

It must be for the same reason that they try to destroy every epic story they get their hands on.
 

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I too was a bit perplexed by the ending. It didn't really feel right to me.

Also yes, the health regen is absolutely the most important upgrade in the game and should be bought immediately upon starting.

I feel like one of my least favorite parts of the game was the shooting sections. The staff laser is just not entertaining. I'm surprised there was no mention of it because it really felt out of place to me.
 

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Lordofthesuplex said:
AlissaX70 said:
I'm glad he mention how this game was NOTHING RELATED TO JOURNEY TO THE WEST!!

Anyone wanna tell me why Western culture has this fascination with that story?

Leave that story to Damon Albarn, Ninja Theory...
I think I have a good reason why that can be summed up in three simple letters: D-B-Z.
It was mostly the original Dragon Ball that even cared about Journey to the West. Z sort of decided it was more important to be an action show whose forumla would be compied by most Shounen series for years to come.

As for why Western cultures truly love it is because it's popular elsewhere (where a lot less is lost in translation) and we're fascinated by this foreign and old story (the second part is why a lot of "classic" books are still being taught even though other books might have done what they did better or are clearer to read, or to put it simply, you could say there is a sort of "social nostalgia" for them). I imagine the eastern cultures probably have some western story they're fascinated with.
 

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Bad mic in this one or just not done encoding or some shit? Gave me a headache with the whole radio-y sound.

Anyway, good review, hadn't had a clue the game existed until about a week ago, not missing out on anything. God of War but... games are all the same, boring as tits.
 

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There's been something wrong with the past few ZPs.
amusing and well-written as ever, just the sound quality has been low and Yahtzee's speech has slowed down significantly.
 

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I never realised it was based on Journey to the West, now I want to watch Monkey Magic XD
 

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AlissaX70 said:
I'm glad he mention how this game was NOTHING RELATED TO JOURNEY TO THE WEST!!

Anyone wanna tell me why Western culture has this fascination with that story?

Leave that story to Damon Albarn, Ninja Theory...
Dammit Ninja'd!! I wanted to bring that up :(

Meh anyway looking at how well Ninja Theory translates over stories really gives me a Humongous fear of what the New DmC will be like....

Dante has a Twin Sister!!!! -_- GO TO HELL NINJA THEORY
 

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That's the last straw. I could care less if this wasn't like journey to the west or that you thought the combat was shitty, all I really care about is that you overlooked the parts of this game that were actually really good, and instead, dwelled on 3 topics you had a problem with, especially considering that there is so much more to this than just 'those 3 things'. What about the subtle facial twitches, incredible attention to detail, the amazing voice acting and character acting, and the incredibly lovable characters? Instead you did what you always do and picked 3 molehills to make mountains of.

I'm officially done with you videos.
 

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Too huma--OW! MAH BOLLOCKS!

But seriously, we all know HALO is based off the struggle of the Navajo.
 

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Man I keep forgetting that all videos are an hour early. Funny review as usually even though I though it would be Vanquish this week.
 

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I lol'd. I'm yet to play this game on the basis of not having any modern console(I'm getting there) so...
But I did enjoy this video. Somehow I always have the need for a quick laugh on a lazy wednesday afternoon. They tend to get so dreary.


I have a dare for you though. Try going one episode without saying the word "Dick". It's not a critique. It's just a dare. Do it and if you're ever in the neighborhood, I'll bake you a cake.
 

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I had happily forgot this game was coming out so thanks for that I guess. I'm not shocked this game has really nothing to do with Journey to the west this happens a lot someone takes an idea and mutilates it an nothing good tends to come of that.

I don't recall the part in Dante's Inferno where he cut down 100 enemies with death's scythe to unlock a new spell but perhaps the pages were stuck together.
 

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ShadowCoH316 said:
That's the last straw. I could care less if this wasn't like journey to the west or that you thought the combat was shitty, all I really care about is that you overlooked the parts of this game that were actually really good, and instead, dwelled on 3 topics you had a problem with, especially considering that there is so much more to this than just 'those 3 things'. What about the subtle facial twitches, incredible attention to detail, the amazing voice acting and character acting, and the incredibly lovable characters? Instead you did what you always do and picked 3 molehills to make mountains of.

I'm officially done with you videos.
That's kind of the point of the exercise. They are not reviews, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a blithering idiot.
 

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Wow am so happy, when I got this game with Spiderman Castlevania and Front Mission Evolved, I said to myself... Yahtzee is only going to review Spiderman Shatty Dims... But no! So far 3 out of 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome!!
 

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One of your best. I was genuinely Loling through some of that. Very unusual, for any kind of comedy.

I usually laugh inside.
 

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That whole "we don't actually know who the antagonist is" thing is what really pissed me off about FFXIII. Seriously, who was the big bad exactly? The sanctum? The fal'Cie? These random monsters i keep bumping into? That huge titan thing on Pulse? My future mother in law?

I know it's going off on a tangent, but that's one of my major pet peeves. And having only played a little bit of Enslaved so far i would guess your motivation for killing robots is, well, aren't they trying to take you back as slaves seeing as how you escaped a slaver ship? If they're completely unrelated plot elements, then that really is weird.

But did he actually like the game? It seems moaning about glowing platform ledges is a bit asinine considering he would just as easily ***** about the environments being too cluttered and being unable to tell what is and isn't climbable if they didn't. Although i agree with the "this isn't platforming" argument, i don't think it was meant to be platforming in the traditional sense. They never tried to make the game Prince of Persia v2.0. Seems like he enjoyed the story but found the gameplay elements weak, which seems to be a general consensus - that and the game is apparently short.
 

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Is it just me or are there just console games on ZP lately.
What about PC games ?
Pway wid me ... :((
 

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Fronzel said:
Theolos88 said:
It's hard to tell a good game from a bad one with Yahtzee... I understand, that its not the goal in these ranting reviews...
Kind of reaching for a facepalm macro here....I'll resist.

...but maybe some kind of shitometer would be appropriate to tell is the game worth buying or not?
It's kind of up to you to decide whether what he says adds up to the game having any interest for you. Try listening harder.
Troll harder

Theolos88 had a good point: Yhatzee sometimes mentions good things, but his goal is not to critique but to lampoon for comedic effect, so sometimes you get the feeling he's trying to tell you the game's good without actually outright saying it.

How about you stop with the cynicism and the "I'm So Witty" attitude? I'm really sick of that around here. It's spoiling the enjoyability of the forums
 

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PAGEToap44 said:
Well I thought Enslaved would be shit. I was right.
I didnt need a review to state what I knew....besides I have better things to buy..like..


uhhh

Undead Nightmare and save $50!
 

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I'm surprised he didn't reference Sands of Time in terms of characters - it's not as good, but it's a definite vibe that I got from the NYC sections at least.

Agreed with the plot issue though - I didn't feel any connection between what I'd been doing and what ended up happening. I'm getting rather bored with ambiguous endings too (yes, you too Mafia 2), especially in games that are mainly driven by the characters.

Ambiguity rarely offers character resolution.

The_root_of_all_evil said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
I bet this has thrown everyone in the UK who forgot about BST.
BST?
Normally, ZP would be on at 5pm, but because of British Summer Time going back to Greenwich Mean Time, it's only 4pm now.

Yeah, we don't quite get it either.
He lives in Australia and this site is American, why would our clocks changing affect the time it's posted?
 

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Is it sad that when I saw the title of the video, I thought it was going to be Yahtzee's critique of the recent trend of Japanese developers moving to the West/adopting Western design philosophy?
 

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Slangeveld said:
xD Halo would probably benefit from being based on Pride and Prejudice
Yeah, Halo would benefit from a story....period.
-_-

Woodsey said:
I'm surprised he didn't reference Sands of Time in terms of characters - it's not as good, but it's a definite vibe that I got from the NYC sections at least.
You know I keep hearing how SoT had great character development, facial animations for its time, emoting and blah blah blah blah, but from what I remember I thought it was horrendous, formulaic, and boring. It had all the depth of a Katherine Heigl dramedy post Knocked Up and twice the annoyance.

Sure the platforming was great and I loved the game for that aspect, but OMG did I think their characters sucked...-_-

Hmm, you guys must be talking about a completely different game...?
 

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ShadowCoH316 said:
That's the last straw. I could care less if this wasn't like journey to the west or that you thought the combat was shitty, all I really care about is that you overlooked the parts of this game that were actually really good, and instead, dwelled on 3 topics you had a problem with, especially considering that there is so much more to this than just 'those 3 things'. What about the subtle facial twitches, incredible attention to detail, the amazing voice acting and character acting, and the incredibly lovable characters? Instead you did what you always do and picked 3 molehills to make mountains of.

I'm officially done with you videos.
As Delusibeta already pointed out earlier, this is what Yahtzee does. He rips into a game's flaws, the game makers take notice, and the next game is better off for it. By being overly critical, games come closer to perfection.
 

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Man, I loved the combat...
Anyway, I'm just surprised that out of all things to hate on, you left Pigsy alone.
 

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PAGEToap44 said:
Well I thought Enslaved would be shit. I was right.
please tell me your not basing whether or not you buy a game, off what yahtzee says. basically, if you place emphasis on story then this is a good game, but the combat gets stale and the platforming is over simplified
 

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Great video, very funny and informative. I was actually on the fence on whether or not to get the game.

Wutaiflea said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
I bet this has thrown everyone in the UK who forgot about BST.
BST?
British Summer Time. Our clocks went back an hour on Sunday to GMT.
I find this daylight saving time very stupid. Especially now that I see that not all countries are doing it at the same time.

The US isn't doing it until Saturday the 6th.

Let's just set our clocks to whatever time we want it to be and it will be so. Yup, I just changed mine to 6pm. Time skipped my class for today, so it didn't have time to start.
 

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I loved this game, but totally acknowledge that it deserves its fair share of criticism. It started out as a cgi movie, so the gameplay feels pretty thrown together all around. But not the story, though. I think when you say "inconsistent," what you mean is "character development." And things like Trip not quite making every jump and needing to be pulled up added a dimension of believability to the game in those early levels - it shakes your faith in the otherwise implausible acrobatics being pulled off left and right, giving the characters a little more vulnerability. Of course as the game progresses, the acrobatics just get more and more nuts until Trip is casually asking Monkey to do crazy stunts for which there should be no expectation for survival, whatsoever.
 

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space pilot jesus christ vs. mecha pontius hahahhaah!! Sounds like a good christmas game to play with the family. Maybe they'll make it compatible with Kinect and Move lol.
 

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Awww, I was expecting a New Vegas review.

Still, great work. Amusing as always I guess.
 

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Yahtzee Croshaw said:
Even if the characters were shifty, the camera was nailed to your back, the platforming was just "follow the yellow brick road) and the combat was "press X to make dead," you got to admit that (most) of the areas showed how a game set after the world doesn't need to be BROWN.

As much of a fanboy excuse that sounds like, I don't think that fixes the problems with the rest of the game, just makes it more tolerable because it is good to see a big action game have some color for once.
 

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I'm waiting for a price drop on this one, not because I don't think it looks good or anything but I just blew all money on some games (that haven't been given the Zero Punctuation treatment...yet) and being only 8 hours long.

The motion capture in all fairness look really good, more so by the average video game standard.
 

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Hey now. Xuanzang's gender went unrecorded by history! It could have been a clingy harpy for all we know.
*just wanted to contribute*
 

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Hang on is 'Bollocks' colloquial British for butt or balls? well, that was the strangest question i have ever asked.
 

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Good point about the necessity of a game whose plot is based around revenge to make the player invested in that revenge. God of War did this well: it drew you in, drew you along, and then ended fairly fittingly (I speak of God of War 1 and to a lesser degree 2: I haven't played 3 yet).

I had not heard of this game before: it actually sounds somewhat interesting, but there's no way I have the time/money for it right now.
 

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GrizzlerBorno said:
Hang on is 'Bollocks' colloquial British for butt or balls? well, that was the strangest question i have ever asked.
Am probably going to be ninja'd repeatedly, but bollocks = balls.
 

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Okay, I haven't watched it yet, but...

pleaselettherebeadragonballreferencepleaselettherebeadragonballreference...

EDIT: Damn it.

I literally counted the cumber of good spots for one as I watched. There were 11.
 

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I don't know what to think about his comments about the combat...

There were parts of the game i.e. - the windmill part - I spent forever trying to pass because the robots were pounding me into the ground.

I did play it on hard difficulty though.
 

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I'm only commented because I never heard of this game before now.

...So wait, the game is supposed to be "based" on the Chinese tale "Journey to the West" and the main character is NOT an actual monkey? Man, fuck that! I don't care WHAT they replaced him with, having a monkey as the main character is what made it interesting!
 

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PAGEToap44 said:
Well I thought Enslaved would be shit. I was right.
Yea you know you can rely on Yahtzee for all your objective and conclusive video game reviewing needs.......
I guess this means every game he has ever reviewed is crap.
 

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I love ZP and Yahtzee's got some great perspectives on these games, but I lose a lot of respect when he breaks out "retarded" and tries to pull it off as a legitimate review. You've got a wonderful vocabulary, Yahtzee, with plenty of other insulting words in it. Leave "retarded" out of it, please.
 

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When I heard in another review that there was a game mechanic that kills you that was controlled by an NPC I had no further interest in it. Think about that for a second; NPC's are inherently idiotic and I'm supposed to be killing my allies not the other way around. Perhaps that's the underlying implication from the Journey to the West -- the arrogant gamers that always laugh at shooting the Marines as Master Chief and what not will be humbled by escorting an NPC that kills them instead.
 

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Aww enjoyd the jokes yahtzee , especially the blowjob in a wind tunnel face XD
and noting that the game is unrelated to the story, good stuff, Have a great week! ^_^
 

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Ah this needs some proper Monkey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iUMWy4hqAg

Also to be fair to the game, Tripitaka always had a vagina in the TV series too :)
 

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"Claiming that Enslaved was inspired by Journey to the West is like renaming Master Chief 'Elizabeth' and claiming that HALO was inspired by Pride and Prejudice".

Well done, Yahtzee, well done indeed.
 

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PAGEToap44 said:
Well I thought Enslaved would be shit. I was right.
Yea you know you can rely on Yahtzee for all your objective and conclusive video game reviewing needs.......
I guess this means every game he has ever reviewed is crap.[/quote]
Except for Silent Hill 2 and Shadow of the Collossus.
 

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A deathly laser-firing scorpion handing out postcards and fruit baskets?
I dunno about you guys, but that just reeks of t-shirt design.
 

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'Journey to the West', huh? I remember watching a cartoon with this exact synopsis... :O
also, good review Yahtzee :p
 

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I noticed the audio is really, really compressed on this one, that or his mic has had an off day the past two weeks. Does anyone know if this is because I am not a "Publisher Club" member and that the high quality vids are now tied into high quality audio? I do audio eng. on the side so it bugs me to no end. Sorry if it has been answered elsewhere.
 

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I was deeply enjoying Enslaved until right up near the end, when it goes all Assassin's Creed and shoves you into mobs of bad guys for two hours. And the 'twist' at the end was a gigantic, incongruous, poorly-conceived slap in the face that almost literally had nothing to do with the rest of the game. Imagine if, at the end of Dark Knight, the Joker had revealed he was actually a robot and everything that happened during the course of the film took place in The Matrix. It's that level of jarring and bad. It makes you throw down your controller in confusion and disgust.

What clinches it is how well Enslaved flows in the beginning. The first fifteen minutes are quite literally one of the most mind-blowingly intense gaming experiences I've ever had, and the atmosphere and chemistry throughout the rest of the game is fantastic. And then it takes a flying train to bullshit-ville and everything turns unbelievably bad.
 

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Wow. And so many reviewers were praising the crap out of this game, most notably for its links to the folk lore it's supposed to be based off. Then along comes Yahtzee and tells them all they're a bunch of fanboy poopy heads for believing such crap and destroys the game like a furious kitten attacking a plushie. Colour me impressed.

Edit: Completely irrelevant, but what colour is "impressed" anyway?
 

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If I want to experience Journey to the West I'll read Dragon Ball or Saiyuki, because at least those have cities blowing up and a smoking, drinking, swearing, gun-toting priest respectively. I wish more people would give The Water Margin some love, even if Suikoden kind of has a monopoly on that
 

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I hate it when he reviews games like this. I've never even heard of Enslaved, would never have played it anyway and therefore was only mildly entertained/interested in this review. After all the big name releases that just came out, frankly I was expecting something much better.
 

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I starting to have an issue with Yahtzee and his criticism. He recommends nothing. I am all for him verbally dressing down the excesses of this industry but a critic tends to recommend something now and then. Now, I am not asking for him to go easy, but for Christ sake, he needs to find something he likes. The last game I remember him recommending was Bioshock and that came out years ago. Even in that case, he said something along the lines that, it didn't suck too bad so it must be GAME OF THE YEAR. Without any positives recommendation, his reviews tend to be less criticism and more observational humor. There is no purpose beyond his humor if he can't, once in a while, stake his rep on a game that he thinks is actually good. No flames please, or personal attacks. I am just looking for other thoughts on this issue.
 

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k-ossuburb said:
Wow. And so many reviewers were praising the crap out of this game, most notably for its links to the folk lore it's supposed to be based off. Then along comes Yahtzee and tells them all they're a bunch of fanboy poopy heads for believing such crap and destroys the game like a furious kitten attacking a plushie. Colour me impressed.

Edit: Completely irrelevant, but what colour is "impressed" anyway?
Burnt Sienna

Pretty much exactly what I thought when I played the demo of this shit game. Good show Yahtzee. DMC is gonna suck so bad :(
 

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tyriless said:
I starting to have an issue with Yahtzee and his criticism. He recommends nothing. I am all for him verbally dressing down the excesses of this industry but a critic tends to recommend something now and then. Now, I am not asking for him to go easy, but for Christ sake, he needs to find something he likes. The last game I remember him recommending was Bioshock and that came out years ago. Even in that case, he said something along the lines that, it didn't suck too bad so it must be GAME OF THE YEAR. Without any positives recommendation, his reviews tend to be less criticism and more observational humor. There is no purpose beyond his humor if he can't, once in a while, stake his rep on a game that he thinks is actually good. No flames please, or personal attacks. I am just looking for other thoughts on this issue.

Well, the thing is, Yahtzee doesn't really do real reviews, that's not his job and that's not what people watch his videos for. You don't watch these vids if you want an actual opinion of the game, you watch them for a laugh, to hear about all the bad bits of it explained with hilarious vulgar analogies. The real humour comes from knowing that all or most of his criticisms are based on fact. For example; even though I actually really like Enslaved, it's still hilarious to hear him describe the platforming the way he did in this video, because I experienced it myself and thought similar things while still enjoying the game as a whole.

TL;DR: if you want a real review, watch something else, or better yet, demo or rent it and form your own opinion. If you want to laugh at hilarious analogies, watch Yahtzee.
 

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This made me laugh hard. Also mechanical dick slapping sounds like fun.

....


That sounded a lot less gay in my head.
 

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Poop, I'm betting now that after watching the new ZP, at least half the people on the fence about Enslaved suddenly fell off onto the "dun want to play it" side. I love Yahtzee's videos, but I watch them solely for entertainment value. People need to take his "reviews" with more than a grain of salt.

ENSLAVED WAS GOOD GUYSS. I really, really liked it. Just thought I'd get my opinion out there.
 

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I think I can safely say that when they "base" a game on any old material they're just gonna use only as few of the things from it as possible
 

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While, that was disappointing. I was actually looking forward to Enslaved.

"Getting sucked off in a wind tunnel" is probably the funniest dick joke Yahtzee has ever made.
 

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I played the level available in the demo version and after seeing Trip screw Monkey over two or three times and then force him to work for her just made me think "wow, what a *****", does she get any better as the game progresses or is it just more of the same?
 

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Vault Citizen said:
I played the level available in the demo version and after seeing Trip screw Monkey over two or three times and then force him to work for her just made me think "wow, what a *****", does she get any better as the game progresses or is it just more of the same?
Trip gets a lot better as the game goes on, as does Monkey. Yahtzee pointed out many gameplay flaws in his video, and while he may have exaggerated the simplicity of combat a little (simply putting the game on hard mode solves most of his complaints and the various purchasable extra attacks add more strategy, though you still shouldn't expect Bayonetta/DMC/GoW's level of depth), he was largely right about most of them - particularly the funnelled, risk-free platforming.

However, it's the characters, their interactions, their incredible facial expression animation, the stellar writing and acting that make this game worth playing. The relationship between Monkey and Trip is constantly evolving, and is extremely believable. They're both highly likeable characters and they drive the game and their plot subtly and effectively. Unfortunately, you can't really get a feel for this in the demo, which only really demonstrates that the game is very pretty and the platforming is very guided.

If you're genuinely interested, I'd recommend you read a few other reviews which go into more detail about the characters. I realise Yahtzee's criticisms about the way their personalities switch around may have put you off, but I never saw anything that could be described that way in the game. The characters react appropriately and believably to their constantly changing surroundings and situations, and to eachother. In this respect, the game really is something very special. In fact, if I ever wanted to convince someone that video games are a legitimate medium for storytelling, this would be top of the list of games I would show them.
 

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From my understanding this game hasn't sold well at all. I was initially thrilled about this game when I heard it was inspired by Journey to the West but I played the demo twice and aside from the animations in the cut scenes it just wasn't any fun.
 

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So this was the game "Critical Miss" was referring to...

The Collectable Doodad Commandments [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/8230-The-Collectable-Doodad-Commandments]
 

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z3rostr1fe said:
So this was the game "Critical Miss" was referring to...

The Collectable Doodad Commandments [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comics/critical-miss/8230-The-Collectable-Doodad-Commandments]
Oh... Yes it was. Geez I've never heard of this game before these things popped up.
 

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tyriless said:
I starting to have an issue with Yahtzee and his criticism. He recommends nothing. I am all for him verbally dressing down the excesses of this industry but a critic tends to recommend something now and then. Now, I am not asking for him to go easy, but for Christ sake, he needs to find something he likes. The last game I remember him recommending was Bioshock and that came out years ago. Even in that case, he said something along the lines that, it didn't suck too bad so it must be GAME OF THE YEAR. Without any positives recommendation, his reviews tend to be less criticism and more observational humor. There is no purpose beyond his humor if he can't, once in a while, stake his rep on a game that he thinks is actually good. No flames please, or personal attacks. I am just looking for other thoughts on this issue.
You know, every time I see some say something like this,it makes me wonder if they're actually paying attention, because there have been several favorable ZPs - the Amnesia: Dark Descent ZP was somewhat favorable, as were the ZPs for Just Cause 2, Infamous, Prototype, Saint's Row 2, Fallout 3, Portal, Call of Duty 4, and No more Heroes, just off the top of my head, to say nothing of the ZPs for Shadow of the Colossus, Silent Hill 2, Painkiller, Psychonauts, and the PS2 Prince of Persias. Obviously there are more, but I'm too lazy to wade through the archives to spot the rest, but somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% to 20% of all ZPs are ultimately positive.
 

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That sucked off in a wind tunnel line ought to go in the best of 2010 which I PRAY will come out before Feburary since all Ytzee needs to do is copy and past half his videos and call it a day.
 

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The funniest part about the review is the part about the giant lazer death scorpions. It makes sense if you play it.
 

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Grygor said:
tyriless said:
I starting to have an issue with Yahtzee and his criticism. He recommends nothing. I am all for him verbally dressing down the excesses of this industry but a critic tends to recommend something now and then. Now, I am not asking for him to go easy, but for Christ sake, he needs to find something he likes. The last game I remember him recommending was Bioshock and that came out years ago. Even in that case, he said something along the lines that, it didn't suck too bad so it must be GAME OF THE YEAR. Without any positives recommendation, his reviews tend to be less criticism and more observational humor. There is no purpose beyond his humor if he can't, once in a while, stake his rep on a game that he thinks is actually good. No flames please, or personal attacks. I am just looking for other thoughts on this issue.
You know, every time I see some say something like this,it makes me wonder if they're actually paying attention, because there have been several favorable ZPs - the Amnesia: Dark Descent ZP was somewhat favorable, as were the ZPs for Just Cause 2, Infamous, Prototype, Saint's Row 2, Fallout 3, Portal, Call of Duty 4, and No more Heroes, just off the top of my head, to say nothing of the ZPs for Shadow of the Colossus, Silent Hill 2, Painkiller, Psychonauts, and the PS2 Prince of Persias. Obviously there are more, but I'm too lazy to wade through the archives to spot the rest, but somewhere in the neighborhood of 10% to 20% of all ZPs are ultimately positive.
Two other ones I can think of are Dead Rising 2 and Halo Reach (at least I think he liked that last one).
 

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When I played the demo, I immediately realized that this would be a no-buy for me. The setting was fresh. The characters were interesting. The plot was compelling. I even enjoyed the combat. But the platforming. Oh, the platforming. Everytihg Yahtzee said was true. Spinning my controller around wildly tapping A....sucked.
 

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I like it...

...by which I mean, the idea of a game involving a spunk gun.
Enslaved, sounded like shite before I heard it was shite.
 

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It's actually a great game :) But still this video is fun with all its hyperboles.
 

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SO true about 'platforming' by waggling the thumbstick around and mashing jump. Made the platforming pretty 'autopilot', really, adding in that you can't really fall off anything. Also, what was with the repetitive boss fights?

Having said that, I agree with Susan Arendt's comments that it's nice to see a lush, beautiful post-apocalyptic non-wasteland for once, and that the voice acting is pretty good (even if Trip does grate on the nerves, it's well-spoken grating). =)

The game was nice to play once, but didn't have much replay value for me, I'm afraid. Hilariously apt critique as always from Yahtzee.
 

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Sorry to eb a bit pedantic. The game doesn't seem to have any resemblance to Journey to the West, but Yahtzee, the book isn't about Sun Wukong, it is the journey of Xuanzang to get the Buddhist scriptures to India, while reaching the enlightment with his three disciples. So, if the game's narrative is focused on Monkey intstead of Tripitaka, seems unlikely to be anything like the book. Also, that Sha Wujing seems to be ignored. yeah, this is as a good adaptation as Dragon Ball. It may still be interesting an fun story, but why say it is an adaptation if it has nothing to do with anything?
 

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You barely mentioned the voice acting or Andy Serkis, i.e. the last ditch effort of the game's selling points. Now, go write an entire article about it in Extra Punctuation.
 

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So this game didn't really impress me at all (felt rather middle of the road), but this review felt like it was really having to dig for criticisms. I played the demo and it was fun enough. I suppose to full game could be different, but I don't think it's all that bad.
 

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Funny review as always. I seem to remember a zelda esque game in the psone era called monkey hero that pretty much followed the same story but i may be mistaken
 

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RE: Ninja theory; I'll have none of it if there isn't Twing Twang. :)

I really must play this on my own. I couldn't help but feel like Yahtzee had to reach to bash the game. Linear? Yawn. Simple gameplay? Ho-hum. Based loosely on ancient Chinese stories? What Ninja Theory games aren't (I don't know the answer to that one). :)
 

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Really? I wouldn't have pinned the gameplay as the chief aspect of Enslaved instead of the story to pick on.
 

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GLAHHH

Zero Punctuation i love your review but GODAMN you couldn't of reviewed Medal of Honor, Fallout New Vegas or, Starcraft 2!

No instead you review a game that no one has heard about or even cares about!
 

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What is up with games trying to destroy Chinese epics? I'm looking at you Dynasty Warriors!

It must be for the same reason that they try to destroy every epic story they get their hands on.
Dynasty warriors doesn't destroy chinese epics. besides those same people make romance of the three kingdoms which is far and leagues more tethered to accuracy. Dynasty warriors is just good fun and taking fair liberties. Ya know something a creator should be given a chance to do?
 

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Don't be silly, Yahtzee, of course the Giant Laser Death Scorpions weren't trying to give you a fruit basket, they were trying to scan your groceries [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdhwTXwhA4c].
 

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I played Enslaved and really enjoyed it. Yahtzee's critique is still spot on though. Platforming linear but it looks great, the combat isn't deep enough but looks pretty good. The plot has nothing to do with central themes of Journey to the West but it's a good story. And the cutscenes are masterfully done but there is a few moments where it swings for sitcom humour or over the top melodrama.

It could have used a few more run-for-your-life moments. Their need to be more "holy sh&t!?" moments when facing enemies.

It's still on the side of should-play, rather than avoid-playing, in my opinion.
 

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The only reason developers are raping, I mean reaping stories from Eastern mythologies is because they've already done it to all the Western ones, mostly Disney films. Not sure how many people are aware that the Lion King is based on Hamlet, but without the meaningful tragic ending for is essentially A TRAGEDY play.
 

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The comment about monkey running with Trip and slave headband thing isn't going to ruin the game for me when I play through it again, not merely because it's funny, but also because it's very possibly true.

I really felt that the camera should have copped more abuse in this video given how aweful it was. I even suspect that your inability to fall off ledges was to stop rapid camera shifts and poor fixed camera angles from sending you to mineville or lava town constantly. How hard is it to get a camera right anyway? it's not like there's been 3D gaming for over a decade now so that developers can work it out or copy someone who's worked it out.

Also I can believe that the limited likeness to Journey to the West was some kind of plot to get away with an otherwise original setting. A post apocalypse game where a broken down city with mostly warm greens rather than brown, grey and brownish grey that wasn't based on the same mythos as Dragon Ball and Monkey Magic would cause rioting from the anti-imagination league or something.
 

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Awesome! Best ZP in quite awhile. I totally agree about the ending, WTF it doesn't make sense!
 

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I've had this game for a while and I refuse to play past the past with the crane. Not because that part is particularly annoying, but because I've had enough with this game's bullshit. Climbing walls is impossible on my TV and the combat is fucking impossible to do if you're against more than one opponent. Also Trip's AI can go fuck itself. Jumping in the middle of five robots, goddammit!
 

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Arkley said:
tyriless said:
do[/i] real reviews, that's not his job and that's not what people watch his videos for. You don't watch these vids if you want an actual opinion of the game, you watch them for a laugh, to hear about all the bad bits of it explained with hilarious vulgar analogies. The real humour comes from knowing that all or most of his criticisms are based on fact. For example; even though I actually really like Enslaved, it's still hilarious to hear him describe the platforming the way he did in this video, because I experienced it myself and thought similar things while still enjoying the game as a whole.

TL;DR: if you want a real review, watch something else, or better yet, demo or rent it and form your own opinion. If you want to laugh at hilarious analogies, watch Yahtzee.
Tearing down other peoples work is still criticism, even if he really is amusing about it. He does reveiw games and what he says does shape the opinion of the veiwer. I certainly would not avoid a game he dismisses ( if I did, I never be able to play anything since Infamous). However, in the past, there was a mix of praise and disdain in his criticism, and now he seems to be in a rut of disliking everything he comes across. Don't get me wrong. I love his rants and delivery. His cynicism and wit bring on a wry smile almost every episode. If it didn't I wouldn't be watching. However, I also would like to know what he enjoys a little more. All I ask is a splash of color to contrast with that dark stain of his soul.
 

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Dear Yahtzee,
I'm writing this comment from a really distant place - Kazakhstan, Almaty.
I've been watching your game reviews for quite a while, ever since accidentally stumbling upon an article about you, full of LOVE at russian ED - lurkmore. I kinda find it a little bit hilarious that the big U.S.S Sellout you mentioned in one of your first vids gets a huge boner on you (various parodies in other Escapist series). The thing is, I'm sitting all alone, drinking me favorite Tullamore Dew, (hope you know what pure awesomeness it is) and I kinda thought - damn, I would really, really like to see you reviewing one of the most story-driven-shitty-gameplay game ever - Tim Cain's The Bards Tale. Seriously, if you never played it GO PIRATEBAY IT, NOW, AND DO A FUCKING REVIEW OF IT, LIKE NOW!!!

P.S.: On a side note, when is your Mog World be available to CIS or at least Europe\Russia.
P.S.S.: Please, Please let it be better, than "Yahtzee against the world, or how was that comic called"
 

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I am so confused. Thank you for taking one for the team. I'll pass on this game.
 

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Well, I'm glad he mentioned that the characters are likeable because that's one of the actually great things about the game. Despite the kickass review it's really not a crap game. Not something you play through more than once though.
Its strong points are Design, Voice acting and the characters. There are really only three though which is kinda lame.
 

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Oh, and by the way, nobody gives a flying duck about this game anyways, since FALLOUT came out like TWO weeks ago.
 

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AlissaX70 said:
I'm glad he mention how this game was NOTHING RELATED TO JOURNEY TO THE WEST!!

Anyone wanna tell me why Western culture has this fascination with that story?

Leave that story to Damon Albarn, Ninja Theory...
Since when do you decide who can use a story as an inspiration? Don't be such a dick
just because you don't like it. Sheesh, talking about butthurt people.


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I think I have a good reason why that can be summed up in three simple letters: D-B-Z.
You don't say, Captain Obvious B-[


Kserijaro said:
And come to think of it Fail Ninja Theory is making new DMC :(
Dude, you don't have to buy it if you don't like. It is a DLC... which means free to buy, but not necessary. It is just an add-on to the game, nothing else. Why is this so hard to understand for some people?

qdr said:
Oh, and by the way, nobody gives a flying duck about this game anyways, since FALLOUT came out like TWO weeks ago.
Maybe, but not everyone likes Fallout.

GrinningManiac said:
Theolos88 had a good point: Yhatzee sometimes mentions good things, but his goal is not to critique but to lampoon for comedic effect, so sometimes you get the feeling he's trying to tell you the game's good without actually outright saying it.

How about you stop with the cynicism and the "I'm So Witty" attitude? I'm really sick of that around here. It's spoiling the enjoyability of the forums
Both of you, Theolos and you, are wrong. He is not a real reviewer therefore his reviews have no weight. A real reviewer take a look at both sides of the object and does not rant only about the negative point with curse words. This trent of Angry reviewers totally blinded people and stop them to think about the subject, because they think that they are right, which is wrong, because, like I mentioned before, their reviews have no weight. If you want a REAL reaview, read it in the magazines or on trustfully websides, which take it seriously to inform people about games. But to say that Yahtzee as like the Nostalgic Critic or Spoony is a real critic is more than silly and shows that you have no idear about the definition of a reviewer.


As for me, I like the game and disagree with Yahtzee.
 

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GroundBreakah572 said:
qdr said:
Oh, and by the way, nobody gives a flying duck about this game anyways, since FALLOUT came out like TWO weeks ago.
Maybe, but not everyone likes Fallout.
He's just mad because Yahtzee decided not to review Fallout: New Vegas this week :p (not that I wasn't hoping he would, too, but I'm not going to get mad about it. Instead, I'll just hope he'll do it the week after ^.^).
 

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tyriless said:
I starting to have an issue with Yahtzee and his criticism. He recommends nothing. I am all for him verbally dressing down the excesses of this industry but a critic tends to recommend something now and then. Now, I am not asking for him to go easy, but for Christ sake, he needs to find something he likes. The last game I remember him recommending was Bioshock and that came out years ago. Even in that case, he said something along the lines that, it didn't suck too bad so it must be GAME OF THE YEAR. Without any positives recommendation, his reviews tend to be less criticism and more observational humor. There is no purpose beyond his humor if he can't, once in a while, stake his rep on a game that he thinks is actually good. No flames please, or personal attacks. I am just looking for other thoughts on this issue.
There was also No More Heroes 1, Saint's Row 2, and a few others. But mostly he just does critiques on games, not reviews.
 

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I actually liked both the highly original way the adapted the story (or rather the premise) of Journey to the West and the ending, but I can definitely see how it might come out of left field for a lot of people.
 

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I cannot disagree more with anyone that states does not review games (@ Deimos: critiquing a game is the same as reviewing them). In fact, you do him a disservice when you state he is doing something else. Yahtzee gives a clearly defined opinion on the failures and the success of the game, while also giving his overall impression of the material. He even goes for a summary of what he said in the end, to ensure you know how he felt about the content. The fact he does all this and keeps his curmudgeon humor going is a small miracle. Besides you getting into the semantics of whether he is or not a game reviewer does not aide in his defense that he has been on a rather strong negative streak over the last year. As an audience member, I would like for him to bring something forward that he has enjoyed because I refuse to believe that considering all the console, PC, and downloaded titles, he has not found a gem every couple months or so.

I actually do appreciate the contributions of repliers about Saint's Row 2 and Infamous. I forgot about some them. However, these games came more than a year ago. Even if he did manage to eek out a mostly positive assessment of a game over the last year it has been drowned in a deluge of disdain and bile. He puts out an average 3 videos a month (estimate including time off and other nongame material) and let's say that he likes one game a year (his average it seems) that is a 36:1 ratio. Let's say my average is conservative and bump that up to 18:1. It's still pretty lopsided.
 

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Yahtzee himself states himself as a critic not a reviewer.

And his "highly negative streak" is what he always does, it's not anything new.
 

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It's hard to tell a good game from a bad one with Yahtzee... I understand, that its not the goal in these ranting reviews, but maybe some kind of shitometer would be appropriate to tell is the game worth buying or not? For instance other reviews of C:LoS made me quite confident i wanna play it. And watching Yahtzee's episode about it i can really tell no difference in the attitude in comparison to this one.
Let me refer you to the "Mailbag Showdown" video as to why Yahtzee doesn't do a scoring system.

Off topic, when is he going to do Fallout New Vegas? I want him to rip the shit out of that game. It is holding up TES V.

Or Medal of Honour. Played at a friend's house, was shit, should get some good laughs out of review.
 

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Gawd, this sounds terrible. Never heard of it before and I'm sure I won't again.
 

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Quite funny. Who is the person whose mug is frequently used in these Zero Punctuation videos? He appears at 0:33 in this one.
 

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bladeleaper said:
That Noah's Ark game sounds awesome! lol
Fronzel said:
Actually a game really loosely based on Noah's Ark might be interesting.
Unfortunately, a very, very similar game to Yahtzee's idea has been made, albeit horrible. It's even a shooter, but instead of Yahtzee's idea, you sling-shot food into the mouth of various animals. Terrible execution.

<img src="http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/8/563038_45416_front.jpg" /img>

It's a lot worse than it sounds, and I know it doesn't sound that good.

Skip to 13:20 in this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNvQYiM6bw] video for a quick review on it that sums up how much balls it sucks about as well as I could.

It could be pretty cool if Fronzel's idea became a game, even if only as backstory as to "why this game takes place so far away from earth" or something.

Anyway, great video by Yahtzee, laughed out loud in so many sections especially the "Well let's just forget about Journey to the West, because the developers did!"
 

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Valiance said:
bladeleaper said:
That Noah's Ark game sounds awesome! lol
Fronzel said:
Actually a game really loosely based on Noah's Ark might be interesting.
Unfortunately, a very, very similar game to Yahtzee's idea has been made, albeit horrible. It's even a shooter, but instead of Yahtzee's idea, you sling-shot food into the mouth of various animals. Terrible execution.

<img src="http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/8/563038_45416_front.jpg" /img>

It's a lot worse than it sounds, and I know it doesn't sound that good.

Skip to 13:20 in this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNvQYiM6bw] video for a quick review on it that sums up how much balls it sucks about as well as I could.

It could be pretty cool if Fronzel's idea became a game, even if only as backstory as to "why this game takes place so far away from earth" or something.

Anyway, great video by Yahtzee, laughed out loud in so many sections especially the "Well let's just forget about Journey to the West, because the developers did!"
The Nerd did review a decent Noah's Arc game in this video [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dUVZozf-i0&feature=related] at 3:40.

I think there's actually a lot of potential in games loosely based on literature. It hooks you with familiarity then does something different, plus it's a very different medium. Developers could actually work to their advantage the fact that everyone would already know the basic story; it puts focus on how the story gets to that point rather then where it is going. Some games do this with a flash-forward at the start of the game, like Halo: Reach and Conker's Bad Fur Day...although I think I'm reaching to say the latter had much of a story rather than a series of jokes. That Columbo TV show does it with crime mysteries, a genre that usually thrives on ,well, mystery.
 

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I ordered this game on Amazon.com for $5 ($20 off for some promotion I had, $15 off for a promotion that's ending tonight).
 

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Valiance said:
bladeleaper said:
That Noah's Ark game sounds awesome! lol
Fronzel said:
Actually a game really loosely based on Noah's Ark might be interesting.
Unfortunately, a very, very similar game to Yahtzee's idea has been made, albeit horrible. It's even a shooter, but instead of Yahtzee's idea, you sling-shot food into the mouth of various animals. Terrible execution.

<img src="http://image.gamespotcdn.net/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/8/563038_45416_front.jpg" /img>

It's a lot worse than it sounds, and I know it doesn't sound that good.

Skip to 13:20 in this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkNvQYiM6bw] video for a quick review on it that sums up how much balls it sucks about as well as I could.

It could be pretty cool if Fronzel's idea became a game, even if only as backstory as to "why this game takes place so far away from earth" or something.

Anyway, great video by Yahtzee, laughed out loud in so many sections especially the "Well let's just forget about Journey to the West, because the developers did!"
Ahhh i remember playing that one. lol
 

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I guess loosely based is taking the names of characters and take like 1 trait and it would be "loosely based"...
 

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Yah know...Enslaved is not without it's faults, but overall I enjoyed the game enough to finish it. It's by no means a bad game. At the very least rent it.
 

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Vault Citizen said:
I played the level available in the demo version and after seeing Trip screw Monkey over two or three times and then force him to work for her just made me think "wow, what a *****", does she get any better as the game progresses or is it just more of the same?
Trip gets a lot better as the game goes on, as does Monkey. Yahtzee pointed out many gameplay flaws in his video, and while he may have exaggerated the simplicity of combat a little (simply putting the game on hard mode solves most of his complaints and the various purchasable extra attacks add more strategy, though you still shouldn't expect Bayonetta/DMC/GoW's level of depth), he was largely right about most of them - particularly the funnelled, risk-free platforming.

However, it's the characters, their interactions, their incredible facial expression animation, the stellar writing and acting that make this game worth playing. The relationship between Monkey and Trip is constantly evolving, and is extremely believable. They're both highly likeable characters and they drive the game and their plot subtly and effectively. Unfortunately, you can't really get a feel for this in the demo, which only really demonstrates that the game is very pretty and the platforming is very guided.

If you're genuinely interested, I'd recommend you read a few other reviews which go into more detail about the characters. I realise Yahtzee's criticisms about the way their personalities switch around may have put you off, but I never saw anything that could be described that way in the game. The characters react appropriately and believably to their constantly changing surroundings and situations, and to eachother. In this respect, the game really is something very special. In fact, if I ever wanted to convince someone that video games are a legitimate medium for storytelling, this would be top of the list of games I would show them.
Trip - a likable character? Wat.

She's the worst videogame character in my opinion. She's constantly holding Monkey back, backstabs him, freaks out very easily, and most importantly - she does not take his headband off in spite of him proving that he won't abandon her (several times over). Heck, she could've at least programmed it so that he wouldn't die when she does. Hell - the whole slavery thing that she claims to fight is exactly what she's doing. There's simply no moral justification for the shit she does.

Moreover it wasn't even like he needed her help all that much. Of course, aside from the obvious 2-player puzzles, she was completely useless in combat. And, she wasn't that great a programmer either. Several of the devices/objects that she programs keep crapping out on you - the stage lights, the car, etc.
 

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It's probably more inspired by Saiyuki with Tripatarka being a combination of the bitchy, rinking, gambling, chainsmoking, gay-magnet Sanzo the devil-may-care flirtatious hermaphrodite "goddess" Kanzeon Bosatsu, so if Monkey is Goku then he really does get off on being smacked around.
 

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I actually didn't like this game at all. Even though it did have certain moments when it felt like Uncharted, area and storyline aside.
 

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qdr said:
Dear Yahtzee,
I'm writing this comment from a really distant place - Kazakhstan, Almaty.
I've been watching your game reviews for quite a while, ever since accidentally stumbling upon an article about you, full of LOVE at russian ED - lurkmore. I kinda find it a little bit hilarious that the big U.S.S Sellout you mentioned in one of your first vids gets a huge boner on you (various parodies in other Escapist series). The thing is, I'm sitting all alone, drinking me favorite Tullamore Dew, (hope you know what pure awesomeness it is) and I kinda thought - damn, I would really, really like to see you reviewing one of the most story-driven-shitty-gameplay game ever - Tim Cain's The Bards Tale. Seriously, if you never played it GO PIRATEBAY IT, NOW, AND DO A FUCKING REVIEW OF IT, LIKE NOW!!!

P.S.: On a side note, when is your Mog World be available to CIS or at least Europe\Russia.
P.S.S.: Please, Please let it be better, than "Yahtzee against the world, or how was that comic called"
You honestly just tell a writer for this site to illegally download a game?