Zero Punctuation: PlayStation VR

Jingle Fett

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unzi said:
I advise everyone to try out the HTC Vive before passing judgment on VR or Oculus when the Touch controllers actually come out.
Roomscale is absolutely what VR was made for, if you think you got immersed looking around and playing on an playstation controller wait until you try some proper controller tracking. I do agree whoever that racing and hotas are a pretty great fit as well, but the immersion i get from playing rpg, and horror games on the vive is just surreal.

Go check out a demo if you can, you won't regret it :D
I agree with this. I have the HTC Vive and the only time I've gotten any motion sickness was when using VorpX to play traditional existing games that weren't designed for VR. Other than that, I've showcased the Vive to over a dozen people and not a single one got any motion sickness at all, some were surprised because they were expecting motion sickness too.
The Vive's motion controllers also add significantly to the immersion because they track perfectly 1:1 with no lag at all, so they feel more like tools for interacting with the world rather than a traditional controller or wiggle style wii remote.

To be honest I'd be very interested in seeing Yahtzee reviewing the Vive or doing a comparison (unless he has already and I missed it)
 

crazygameguy4ever

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unrelated in some ways , but yahtzee really picked a great time to come to the Us... trump's somehow the next president and california (wher yahtzee moved to) wants to succeed from the US
 

Transdude1996

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crazygameguy4ever said:
unrelated in some ways , but yahtzee really picked a great time to come to the Us... trump's somehow the next president and california (wher yahtzee moved to) wants to succeed from the US
That's never going to happen. Texas has been threatening to do that for years (Which no one should take as a joke), and they haven't yet. Also, while California looks powerful (On paper), they're losing money left and right. And, it doesn't help that many the people who do live there don't have any integrity (For example, how many of those pledging to leave the country actually will follow through on that claim?).
 

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I could see myself getting a PSVR if Elite: Dangerous comes to PS4 supporting it. Why yes, I AM too cheap to upgrade my PC to support Oculus Rift.
 
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I think he's being too harsh on the motion controls. The biggest thing that shocked me with VR was that motion controls are actually not shit. I played with the HTC Vive, and I was astounded with just how easy it was to use the wand to point at things. I'd just been so accustomed to the Wii Remote that I didn't realize that pointing at things should actually be something that's easy to do.

There's also something very nice about not having to have both of your hands within view to know what you're doing with them. I played a game called "Draw your blade" which was a really low budget game where you use the wands to draw swords/shields and use those to bash away orbs that fly at you. It was probably one of my favorite VR experiences so far. Why I mention it though, was that you'd often have enemies coming at you from all sides, and you could hold your shield behind you to block while you swing at one with your other sword. That's something I've never been able to do in a game before, and I feel like there's a lot of things that could be done with it
 

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The cynical bastard in me fears that games are going to end up being a subscription based service and/or theme park rides.
 

Zulnam

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Just imagine: in 6 years from now when there will be actual good games for VR, the price will go down and, god willing, motion controllers will go away.
 

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Sheo_Dagana said:
I'm the kind of person that can't go to 3D movies without getting motion sick and my 3DS gives me a headache. I couldn't possibly justify the price tag for the PSVR and it's selection of over-priced tech demos. I know a lot of people keep saying that VR is the future of gaming, but for the sake of myself and other people that can't use VR for whatever reason, I hope that's a very distant future.
Don't worry, the only markets where VR will ever be a noticable success at all will be XXX Content (Movies, Dating Sims) and Training Simulations (Surgery, Plane).

PS: really hate those stupid 3d-glasses you are forced to wear in the cinema, too.
Barely go there anymore...
 

unzi

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Zulnam said:
Just imagine: in 6 years from now when there will be actual good games for VR, the price will go down and, god willing, motion controllers will go away.
Don't dismiss motion controllers until you've tried ones that are actually precise and lag free.
Wii, the wands from psvr,and kinnect simply can't be compared to ones such as the HTC Vive or the upcoming occulus touch.
I have yet to see one disbeliever of motion controllers not be converted when they try it :)
 

Zulnam

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unzi said:
Zulnam said:
Just imagine: in 6 years from now when there will be actual good games for VR, the price will go down and, god willing, motion controllers will go away.
Don't dismiss motion controllers until you've tried ones that are actually precise and lag free.
Wii, the wands from psvr,and kinnect simply can't be compared to ones such as the HTC Vive or the upcoming occulus touch.
I have yet to see one disbeliever of motion controllers not be converted when they try it :)
I imagine Vive's should work properly, after making you redecorate the room, set up two cameras and clear a 3 by 3 space. How do you know the Oculus one will be good, though, if it's upcoming?
 

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Zulnam said:
I imagine Vive's should work properly, after making you redecorate the room, set up two cameras and clear a 3 by 3 space. How do you know the Oculus one will be good, though, if it's upcoming?
The vive does take about 30min to one hour to set up, and you do need space for room scale game(there are some where you just need a place to sit), for room scale you need 1.5m by 2m, also yes it is still too expensive for the average joe, but the immersion is nothing like i had before. I do advise you to try it, no warm no foul :p.

Has for the occulus, i can't vouche for it, my insights come only from talking with some devs that have it, and some of the videos available from people who tried it.
 

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Sheo_Dagana said:
I'm the kind of person that can't go to 3D movies without getting motion sick and my 3DS gives me a headache. I couldn't possibly justify the price tag for the PSVR and it's selection of over-priced tech demos. I know a lot of people keep saying that VR is the future of gaming, but for the sake of myself and other people that can't use VR for whatever reason, I hope that's a very distant future.
I am the same way, can't stand the 3D movies or the nintendo ds. That said, VR is not comparable to it, i do think its expensive at the moment but i don't regret it get it one bit.
Hopefully next year we will see the price drop with the rumored improvements to HTC Vive and with the other brands headsets.
 

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As others have said: try the HTC Vive. Not only did they get the controllers right with that one, making them able to feel like anything from a sword to a gun to a longbow to a shield to a tractor beam/whip to... (and so on and so forth)...

...they have also made games that makes sense for VR. Beware of some of them though, as you will want to move about too much. Swordmaster VR for instance is best played in a mattress room because otherwise you will be punching walls and/or furniture and/or your friends and family members that are standing there watching you having a Life-Or-Death swordfight with your imaginary enemy.
 

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Tried PSVR at an expo last weekend and it was alright but not something I'd ever spend money on. It's a really expensive toy at the moment. Vive costs 980? here. So yeah, I feel positively about the idea, but the reality is definitely out of my reach for now - even if it's virtual.
 

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Outside of the price, my biggest compliant about VR is the weight of the headset. I had the chance to try the EVE game at a PSVR demo station, and I was always afraid of whipping around too fast and seeing the headset go flying across the show floor.
 

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As usual, Yahtzee's explanation for how VR works is probably my favorite explanation ever. haha
 

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I would like to be wrong about this one, but think this will be lumped with 3D TV in the end.