The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
This week, Zero Punctuation reviews The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D.
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This week, Zero Punctuation reviews The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D.
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Zero Punctuation: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Yahtzee liking a Zelda game? Who knew.
But yes, the dark depression of the game is one of the biggest draws.
Anju and Kafei ;_;
But yes, the dark depression of the game is one of the biggest draws.
Anju and Kafei ;_;
Yahtzee's openings are getting more revealing about his sex life.
[sup]Also, I totally called this one. Check out his youtube, sometimes he lets slip what he's up to.
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[sup]Also, I totally called this one. Check out his youtube, sometimes he lets slip what he's up to.
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Following the general trend of his Zelda reviews, it seems that he only really enjoys the ones in which Link is characterized as "just some bloke thrown into extraordinary circumstances," i.e. Wind Waker and Majora's Mask.
As a former diehard Zelda loyalist, I agree. The "destined hero fights destined villain to save the princess of destiny" thing can only be done so many times before it feels stale. Wind Waker and Majora's Mask are two of my favorites in the series, way better than Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time, IMO. And the less I say about Skyward Sword, the better. Oh, the rants I have ranted on that game...
As a former diehard Zelda loyalist, I agree. The "destined hero fights destined villain to save the princess of destiny" thing can only be done so many times before it feels stale. Wind Waker and Majora's Mask are two of my favorites in the series, way better than Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time, IMO. And the less I say about Skyward Sword, the better. Oh, the rants I have ranted on that game...
I always thought Majoras Mask was one of the weaker of the Zelda games. Yeah the time mechanic was unique, but as Yahtzee points out, its never been done again. I found the combination of a timer, resetting previous work and obtuse story elements/clues very difficult. There would be entire loops(the 3 days) that would come and go and I'd be wandering the land looking for whatever I'm supposed to do, usually finding it on the last day, reversing time, going to that one point and oh! That person isn't here yet, because I didn't know that my earlier actions A, B and 5 led up to this specific scenario. Well back to wandering the land again...Would love to know which actions triggered which events...
I guess now that we have the internet and walkthroughs it'd be easier, but it doesn't have a good impression in my day.
I guess now that we have the internet and walkthroughs it'd be easier, but it doesn't have a good impression in my day.
It's offen fun just to go around and see everyone's reactions and changing moods as the clock ticks down to doomsday in Majora's mask. I liked following the head of the carnival who 6 hours to the end is the only idiot left in town still not buying the moon is about to crash rumor when it's laughing at him right about his head.
I knew he would like this one, mainly because the game has the smae weird, uncanny feel that Silent Hill 2 does (although put through the ninty filter).
I'm pretty sure he started to tell which game he'll review justso people would stop asking him about it.Redlin5 said:Yahtzee's openings are getting more revealing about his sex life.
[sup]Also, I totally called this one. Check out his youtube, sometimes he lets slip what he's up to.
Wow, he REALLY liked this one. I suppose I shouldn't be too surprising. Majora's Mask has a lot more going on with it in terms of tone and thematic elements than most Zelda games, and it has two really great core mechanics that are intriguing from both gameplay and plot perspectives in the form of the time looping and the masks.
I thought he would dislike Majora's Mask due to it's similarities to Ocarina and how there's a limited time mechanic. Guess I can be wrong.
Pretty damn funny. And yeah, Majora is pretty damn fucked up.
Pretty damn funny. And yeah, Majora is pretty damn fucked up.
About time that this review came out, as this week follows last month's second week: it has a Friday the 13th, which was the appropriate release date of this game last month.
For the record, I'm trying to get through each region within 1 cycle each, with the Inverted Song of Time of course. As that song only slows time down to 1/3 or 1/4 speed instead of 1/6 or so, the game is more tense, with dungeons leaving me at the tail end of the cycle. The first 2 regions went well enough, but the third took a couple of tries, as I forgot where the last "monkey bollock" was before fighting the sandwich - er, giant piranha - boss. The fourth region looks to be extra troubling if not impossible under this challenge, with The Well of Fetch Quests and a mini-dungeon along with a double-decked dungeon.
For the record, I'm trying to get through each region within 1 cycle each, with the Inverted Song of Time of course. As that song only slows time down to 1/3 or 1/4 speed instead of 1/6 or so, the game is more tense, with dungeons leaving me at the tail end of the cycle. The first 2 regions went well enough, but the third took a couple of tries, as I forgot where the last "monkey bollock" was before fighting the sandwich - er, giant piranha - boss. The fourth region looks to be extra troubling if not impossible under this challenge, with The Well of Fetch Quests and a mini-dungeon along with a double-decked dungeon.
.....Wow...didn't see that coming.
Yahtzee liking a Zelda game, then again, it was the most depressing and dark one in the entire series so perhaps it was to be expected.
And I see he met Tingle as well
Yahtzee liking a Zelda game, then again, it was the most depressing and dark one in the entire series so perhaps it was to be expected.
And I see he met Tingle as well
Dammit! Why'd you have to remind me that you'll never review Kingdom Hearts? I thought I already had that kind of closure sooner than
already...
Other than that, I could never finish Majora's Mask because I keep forgetting that I could slow down time...
the introduction to Xehanort's time-travel plot-twist confirmed
Other than that, I could never finish Majora's Mask because I keep forgetting that I could slow down time...
The never reviewing Kingdom Hearts line made my day. Also, why do people still keep saying that he's never liked a Zelda game when he mentioned in this review AND in its own review that he liked Wind Waker (because it's the best one).
Also, if he thinks HE reads too much into Majora's Mask, wait until people start posting the popular theories. Psh, and Dark Souls was the grim one, right.
Also, if he thinks HE reads too much into Majora's Mask, wait until people start posting the popular theories. Psh, and Dark Souls was the grim one, right.
Before Windwaker, I always found Majora's Mask to be the more interesting and appealing game out of the 64 duo.
When I first played it, it admittedly had a poor impression on me because of the limited time mechanic, the incredibly downtrodden introduction, and just how confusing the whole damn thing is. And yet I constantly found myself coming back to it, until through sheer brute force I managed to scrounge together some sense out of its mechanics. In the end, I was very satisfied with it.
It seems to me that it went pretty far out on it's own from Ocarina of Time in many ways. When you get down to it, sure it's still an adventure to save the world from doom. But it still managed to be different this time. Although the Zelda series tends to have pretty mature themes, Majora's Mask struck me as a much darker and dire game, and even touching at times. Ocarina definitely had it's moments. Going into the future and seeing the destroyed kingdom overrun by ReDeads whereas in the past, it was flourishing and full of happy people. Digging up graveyards. The Dead Hand...
But in Majora's Mask, like Yahtzee said, the mood was different from the very beginning. Starting off at a disempowered state, and working your way forward in the midst of panic and confusion, just to meet with this creepy fucker.
When I first played it, it admittedly had a poor impression on me because of the limited time mechanic, the incredibly downtrodden introduction, and just how confusing the whole damn thing is. And yet I constantly found myself coming back to it, until through sheer brute force I managed to scrounge together some sense out of its mechanics. In the end, I was very satisfied with it.
It seems to me that it went pretty far out on it's own from Ocarina of Time in many ways. When you get down to it, sure it's still an adventure to save the world from doom. But it still managed to be different this time. Although the Zelda series tends to have pretty mature themes, Majora's Mask struck me as a much darker and dire game, and even touching at times. Ocarina definitely had it's moments. Going into the future and seeing the destroyed kingdom overrun by ReDeads whereas in the past, it was flourishing and full of happy people. Digging up graveyards. The Dead Hand...
But in Majora's Mask, like Yahtzee said, the mood was different from the very beginning. Starting off at a disempowered state, and working your way forward in the midst of panic and confusion, just to meet with this creepy fucker.
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Then stepping outside, inspecting your surroundings, then looking up to see this.
[spoiler] [img src='http://image-cdn.gamnesia.com/8715/2393009-skullkidandmoon.jpg'] [/spoiler]
Jesus christ, what the fuck is happening in this game?
Beyond that, the game is still the same generic zelda fare of clearing dungeons until you reach the finale. But the atmosphere it crafted, and mechanics it utilized, made it stand very much apart from Ocarina of Time. And it's my favorite out of the two, even though it's Time mechanics are tedious and a hindrance at times, it's unique and a lot more interesting.
Windwaker is still my favorite though.
Then stepping outside, inspecting your surroundings, then looking up to see this.
[spoiler] [img src='http://image-cdn.gamnesia.com/8715/2393009-skullkidandmoon.jpg'] [/spoiler]
Jesus christ, what the fuck is happening in this game?
Beyond that, the game is still the same generic zelda fare of clearing dungeons until you reach the finale. But the atmosphere it crafted, and mechanics it utilized, made it stand very much apart from Ocarina of Time. And it's my favorite out of the two, even though it's Time mechanics are tedious and a hindrance at times, it's unique and a lot more interesting.
Windwaker is still my favorite though.
I have always hated Majora's Mask and never got what anyone saw in it. I hated that you were stuck with Young Link after Ocarina of Time. I hated that you had to replay gameplay sections over and over and over again. I hated that it took your money and items away every time you rewound time. I hated the "Gotta find this NPC at this specific time" system. I hated the general lack of direction and obtuse objectives. I hated the Skull Kid. I hated the Deku Scrubs. I hated Tingle so. damn. much.
The entire game felt like a downgrade after Ocarina.
The entire game felt like a downgrade after Ocarina.