I wonder: who here is laughing at the jokes, and who's laughing out of loyalty?
Sure, it was funny. Far from hilarious, though.
Sure, it was funny. Far from hilarious, though.
Zero Punctuation: Wii Sports Resort
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
- Start date
Before I get to my commentary on the review, which I thought was very amusing, I have something else to say. You see, I like to analyze things. For instance, I like to examine different types of people. For instance, I feel that it's very easy to tell the difference between a person who well and truly loves the Wii versus a person who is in denial.
A person who likes the Wii more often than not can admit a failing of said console but will still like said console. This person can also find jokes aimed at the Wii hilarious even if he or she may disagree.
Examples:
"Haha, even though I love the Wii I still found that really funny"
"While I disagree with what you say, Yahtzee, I still found some humor in your review"
"I don't agree with what you say but I respect your opinion"
The trickier creature is the one that deceives itself day in and day out. So insecure about the purchase/preference of the Wii that in order to convince him or herself, this person must lash out viciously at any criticism whether it is serious or not. They will use asinine retorts that go off topic or are simply outlandish in their attempts to justify their stance.
Examples:
"Omigawd Yahtzee, you're a stupid wii hater"
"at least the wii doesn't get red rings of death!!1!!!"
"You're stupid and I want you to know I'm never reading this ever again ever"
"what you say is bullocks, the wii is the greatest thing ever since sliced bread"
Which brings me to a pet peeve. If you're going to go, just go. Don't make a scene. You don't need to announce your departure from a community that you may have come to despise because, let's be honest, who is going to care? We're all just drops in a great big ocean. A handful of people isn't going to make a difference or matter. Especially if you weren't known from the beginning or a significant member of that community.
Anyway. I enjoyed this one and I agree to extent on the opinion over Nintendo. It does seem like the majority of their work is just milking the fan base and capitalizing on the gullibility and ignorance of the average consumer. They generally are sheep. Don't get me wrong, I grew up with Nintendo and love Nintendo, but I'm sick of some of the stuff they are putting out for the Wii. Well, most of it. I hope to god this is the last we see of minigame bundles. What about full fledged RPGS? If you're going to dedicate yourself to Sequels, leave Zelda and mario alone; bring more Metroid (although that's starting to be beaten to death, too) and something new or niche. What about Luminous Arc, for instance, or Radiant Sun? Or how about new franchises, geez.
Oops, my bad. That was kind of long.
A person who likes the Wii more often than not can admit a failing of said console but will still like said console. This person can also find jokes aimed at the Wii hilarious even if he or she may disagree.
Examples:
"Haha, even though I love the Wii I still found that really funny"
"While I disagree with what you say, Yahtzee, I still found some humor in your review"
"I don't agree with what you say but I respect your opinion"
The trickier creature is the one that deceives itself day in and day out. So insecure about the purchase/preference of the Wii that in order to convince him or herself, this person must lash out viciously at any criticism whether it is serious or not. They will use asinine retorts that go off topic or are simply outlandish in their attempts to justify their stance.
Examples:
"Omigawd Yahtzee, you're a stupid wii hater"
"at least the wii doesn't get red rings of death!!1!!!"
"You're stupid and I want you to know I'm never reading this ever again ever"
"what you say is bullocks, the wii is the greatest thing ever since sliced bread"
Which brings me to a pet peeve. If you're going to go, just go. Don't make a scene. You don't need to announce your departure from a community that you may have come to despise because, let's be honest, who is going to care? We're all just drops in a great big ocean. A handful of people isn't going to make a difference or matter. Especially if you weren't known from the beginning or a significant member of that community.
Anyway. I enjoyed this one and I agree to extent on the opinion over Nintendo. It does seem like the majority of their work is just milking the fan base and capitalizing on the gullibility and ignorance of the average consumer. They generally are sheep. Don't get me wrong, I grew up with Nintendo and love Nintendo, but I'm sick of some of the stuff they are putting out for the Wii. Well, most of it. I hope to god this is the last we see of minigame bundles. What about full fledged RPGS? If you're going to dedicate yourself to Sequels, leave Zelda and mario alone; bring more Metroid (although that's starting to be beaten to death, too) and something new or niche. What about Luminous Arc, for instance, or Radiant Sun? Or how about new franchises, geez.
Oops, my bad. That was kind of long.
Hypocrisy, thy name is you. Albeit implied, you resorted to name-calling before I did.theklng said:
You're making absolutely no sense whatsoever. I know you think you're being clever, but you're going so far out of your way to provide analogies that you're just talking nonsense.
Right, I feel this needs explaining again because you obviously just cannot get it into your skull: I'm not being the forum police, we the community try to make sure the rules are upheld. Usually without people to report things, the mods don't notice, so they rely on us quite a lot. Since this user was put on a 7 day probation, it seems my judgement was not misplaced. I don't care about mod respect, but the fact that you place this as a desirable thing, well, it says more about you than me.
Read back. Have I once said that I outsmart you? No. No I have not, and please stop trying to give me advice, it's embarrassing. But also hilarious that you think you have a knowledge of how my life is going to take course. You can't possibly know my attitude as a person from a text-based communication over the internet, the same I'm not going to claim that I know yours.
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His argument on the Wii motion detection was so accurate. I used to own a Wii, but after a while trying many times over to get the Wii to detect what I wanted it to just got grating and killed most of the fun that I had with the system, and made me change to a 360. Sure Nintendo had a good idea, but 3 years just to imporve the damn controller? I couldn't wait that long for that. Final Note: Great review!
The gamecube was a great system with some amazing games to back it up with but the Wii just fails at all expectations. I guess if your below the age of 12 or are a good little boy and mommy and daddy bought you this instead of the 360 or PS3 then i hope you like your choice. They only decently good games on the Wii are No more heros Super Smash bros brawl Legend of Zelda and well thats all i can think of now. Arrgh my point is that the Wii can never compare to the other gaming systems and i haven't forgave it for killing off the Dead Space series
I'm a happy Wii owner, but I don't think there is any way Yahtzee could shoo me away! My inner cynic just won't let me! As someone who puts story and game play first, the Wii's weaker graphical capabilities for its generation don't bug me. My point is how real do we really want it to look? A video game, by its very nature, is fake! And hell, I believe that Yahtzee's goal is to first entertain an then to review! But I digress...
Many of the Wii games I have played have the exact kind of gimmicky, poorly laid out game play that Yahtzee points out. Then again isn't also hypocritical for people to complain about his complaints about the Wii and its games? Regardless of the system, he'll find fault in any game!
Many of the Wii games I have played have the exact kind of gimmicky, poorly laid out game play that Yahtzee points out. Then again isn't also hypocritical for people to complain about his complaints about the Wii and its games? Regardless of the system, he'll find fault in any game!
what? i said the lesson is to not act like an idiot. it's at worst a suggestion for behavior, not an insult. however, it doesn't surprise me that you can't tell the difference. yes, i'm making no sense whatsoever. i'm sorry, maybe you should look into sarcasm. wait, you're probably too intelligent for that.Vanguard_Ex said:
you of course take that as a compliment to your judgment; which means that your judgment is forever and always true, and the world would be a better place would it listen to your answers for its moral questions. jesus christ, i don't think i have ever seen so much self-righteousness in one post.
oh yes, put some more words in my mouth. i have no desire of respect from the mods or any of the members of this community; which is even something i've often demonstrated. feel free to look through my posts if you don't believe me. but yeah, keep accusing people of intent based on your own assumptions. i mean, you've just shown that your judgment is irrefutable by being right in a matter of suspension. i would be SO surprised if your judgment was ever wrong.
post two:
derogatory statements imply that you think of someone inferior in some respect. in the case of idiot, we refer to intelligence.
in addition to that, your posts are littered with sarcasm and you almost at all times keep an either judgmental or condescending tone. you would not do this to a person you would think of as equal. so yes, you have said that you outsmart me; not just in an explicit sentence, but also in implicit behavior. don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining.
yes i'm sure you're embarrassed by taking advice from someone over the internet. i mean, who the hell can know anything about you by just reading what you've written the past few posts. nobody is able to analyze depth based on this information. never mind those psychologists that do it for a living, or any college students who analyze and compare results during their years at campus.
the funny thing is that people expect themselves to have a different attitude in the real world than they do on the internet. in a way, it's true. there are things you would say on the internet you wouldn't say to anyone in life. but on the other hand, you did just write all those things in your own post. i can tell you were even slightly disgruntled or annoyed because it to you seemed as obvious truth, and that you were offended by my so-called insult. i can tell you're getting defensive in your arguments, and i can read into the context the way that you put yours words.
god damn, if that isn't analyzing your behavior (and thus, your personality), then i don't know what is. maybe you're an entirely other person in life; but you still think all of these things about people beneath the surface. are you still so sure that you can't tell how people act by the way that they post or write? i beg to differ.
As a PS3 owner , my issue with the system is the crippling lack of JRPGs (Yahtzee rage imminent), but it hasn't suffered any death problems like some 360 owners here have expressed. I believe backwards compatibility also helps, because without it, I would have bought a 360 or DS by now. Wii Sports was addicting, but aside from Punch-Out,no other game interests me, ang wagging the Wiimote all day would kill my arms.
Funny review, but I find it ironic that he mentions cyberspace as something to be focused on when innovating because, in my opinion, the motion sensing controls are a step in that direction. Project Natal is a bigger step: controller-free motion sensing, complex AI - although apparently it took them a lot of time to create Milo - and basically the immersive program that Microsoft developed.
"A motion sensor could have one to one control and incorporated twenty-two function swiss army knife, but that won't change the fact that without physical feedback motion controls are unimmersive."
I agree with this, to an extent - I haven't played a Wii game yet so I'm thinking some games might be immersive. I don't see what kind of immersion the motion controller can provide with this kind of sports games. It would probably be cheaper to go and play any of those sports in the real world, but Nintendo seem to compensate for that with cheaper prices for it's console and offers like the one I recently started seeing on TV here in my country: "Get an internet connection from provider X and get a free Nintendo Wii !". This is real. Incidentally I agree with Yahtzee's point here as well.
I don't own a Nintendo Wii so, of course, I can't comment on the accuracy of the criticism brought to Wii Sports Resort in this review.
"A motion sensor could have one to one control and incorporated twenty-two function swiss army knife, but that won't change the fact that without physical feedback motion controls are unimmersive."
I agree with this, to an extent - I haven't played a Wii game yet so I'm thinking some games might be immersive. I don't see what kind of immersion the motion controller can provide with this kind of sports games. It would probably be cheaper to go and play any of those sports in the real world, but Nintendo seem to compensate for that with cheaper prices for it's console and offers like the one I recently started seeing on TV here in my country: "Get an internet connection from provider X and get a free Nintendo Wii !". This is real. Incidentally I agree with Yahtzee's point here as well.
I don't own a Nintendo Wii so, of course, I can't comment on the accuracy of the criticism brought to Wii Sports Resort in this review.
im not very happy that he criticized fencers, i am a fencer and we are not ponsy little french poofs, granted some fencers are but those particular fencers are gay frenchmen!!!!!
What was up with the liberal use of the banhammer right at the start there.
Also, I must agree, why didn't they release the better motion sensing technology origionally? It surely can't take three years to improve it can it?
Also, I must agree, why didn't they release the better motion sensing technology origionally? It surely can't take three years to improve it can it?