ZP lost its edge?

[Zersy]

Im sorry but when i first started watching ZP i thought it was the greatest thing ever. a game review with some actual wit. but then suddenly it seems that after the GDC ZP special it all seemed to go downhill, atleast thats my opinion, ZP introduced me to the escapist, but i seem to spend more time on here on days other than wednesday more and more, sometimes forgetting that a ZP came out until the following tuesday.

is it just me or has ZP reached the point where its " just toying with the gravel on the big road of life"

no we just got used to it done simple

thread closed

 

[ffxfriek]

It has but It'll be back because every good person runs out of fuel and requires a little recharge every now and then....ill never lose faith in ZP

 

[Amoreyna]

The level of "harrassment" this person is taking as a result of his posts is because of the content of his posts.

So answering this him back in the same manner or doing something as arrogant as correcting his spelling then making a captial case out of it is okay then?

Yahtzee himselfe went from a reviewer to a simple ranting troll who has an ego the size of Germany.

I mean there is a difference between a joke and bad humor, and Yahztee is now despalying what horrible humor he has developed.

Or maybe I stopped seeing them funny because I tried the games and know how much bullshit the guy is saying, I don't know

Every single post this person has made has been an unconstructive, unsupported, and quite childish attack on an employee of this website. Why?

Honestly it's called his opinion, he's allowed to have it and actually his posts aren't the worse I've seen on here especially towards Yahtzee. He even says that he used to like the videos but no longer does. He seems to mistake differences in opinion for lies but that really is he's own perjogative.

I actually liked Yahztee in the past, but when I tried the game he called shit, I realised, how wrong he was and how much he lied.

If you hang around this forum for any length of time you will get fed up of people like this. Every Wednesday we get an influx of butt-hurt fanboys of whatever particular game Yahtzee has taken a shit on. The Escapist really should have a rule about this in my opinion. If anyone has anything to say about a Yahtzee review, there is a thread always open for it. People trying to start anti-Yahtzee campaigns because he verbally destroyed a game they liked is getting very very old.

Ah yes, since my profile is new then I must have only just stumbled across The Escapist, right? Actually I've been watching Yahtzee for a long time and have read through the threads concerning his episodes. It was the behavior of people posting (both sides) that kept me from making a profile for so long. I finally did to answer a completely different forum question.

Personally I'm tired of people feeling the need to start these kind of threads so that they can publically announce their change in viewing habits. It would be one thing if you didn't like a show anymore and offered reasons why and maybe how the show could be made better. Somethig that this thread is lacking greatly in. But at the same time to try and limit a person's subject matter by banning certain threads will only cause more harm then good.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Honestly it's called his opinion, he's allowed to have it and actually his posts aren't the worse I've seen on here especially towards Yahtzee. He even says that he used to like the videos but no longer does. He seems to mistake differences in opinion for lies but that really is he's own perjogative.

He is allowed to have it. He isn't allowed to insult, troll, and defame other people, especially not employees of the very website he is posting on, without present reasons and evidence why.

Ah yes, since my profile is new then I must have only just stumbled across The Escapist, right?

No, but it means you are only just started a part of the community (Nice to meet you, by the way ), and therefore will be less wearied by the antics of these anti-Yahtzee campaigners.

Personally I'm tired of people feeling the need to start these kind of threads so that they can publically announce their change in viewing habits. It would be one thing if you didn't like a show anymore and offered reasons why and maybe how the show could be made better. Somethig that this thread is lacking greatly in. But at the same time to try and limit a person's subject matter by banning certain threads will only cause more harm then good.

I am not advocating a ban on criticism of Yahtzee. Quite the contrary, I think that the 'review' part of his reviews can be pretty innaccurate. He appeared to praise GTA 4, a pathetic vomit pile of a game, and didn't go nearly far enough in crucifying that god-awful stinky cabbage that was Fable 2, and I have said so. He really should be harsher with some of the crap that is coming out now. But there is a place already set aside for that. It isn't banning threads or censoring opinion, it is applying some common sense and the forum rules. If someone takes issue with Yahtzee then go take issue with him in the threads he makes. This isn't the right place and it is really just spam.

 

[tbare]

he swears alot less, but still is very funny.

personally, i like that he swears a lot less... it makes me not feel so bad about letting my 12 yr old nephew watch it...


I'm still a fan of ZP, and i will agree that some of the time i feel it's more of a chore to watch the video than anything, it still amuses me... and isn't that the point? i mean, hell, if you're not amused when you watch a TV show, do you keep watching it, or change the channel to see what else is on?

I change the channel, and then I don't go on some forum and post about how disappointed i was about the show that i stopped watching... i simply forget about it... if you don't like it, go do something else. nobody's forcing you to keep watching his videos.

 

[Beacon]

After Yahtzee did his "Year in Review" thing, I think we all saw that he wasn't perfect and was not sent here to lead us to the promise land.

I loved every single review he did up until the Year In Review...and since then I've gotten a cheap laugh or two out of each of them but...it's like we've started to question God...

And I don't think that it's we've gotten used to his formula..cause I can go back and watch any random review and still laugh...

 

[GonzoGamer]

That GDC (where Yahtzee gave that presentation) is the last time the world saw the real Yahtzee.

You see after his presentation, a band of masked developers led by Peter Molyneux kidnapped Yahtzee, skinned him and disposed of the rest of the body the way gamedevelopers normally do (find a nice deep hole and chuck him in; if there's a fire or spikes at the bottom, so much the better), then used the skin to put the finishing touches on their Criticyborg. Since then their Yahtzee-bot has been giving recommendations for us to buy total crap games we would never buy otherwise, has begun a love relationship with all games with quick time events, and has stopped calling his mother. Now when he complains about a game, it's not even the stuff worth complaining about and he glosses over huge frustrating faults.

This isn't a conspiracy theory, this is a conspiracy fact. We will never be able to bring back the original Yahtzee but I'm working on a widgit that (when implanted in the criticyborg) will at least give it some sense of right and wrong: intuitive controls-right, quick time events-wrong / lockpicking minigames-right, lawnmowing minigames-wrong. Now I just need to design a trap that will allow me to install the widget; I'm thinking of spreading Branston Pickle (the preferred fuel of most cyborgs; that's how we know) on a 360 in the middle of a hydraulic press and just clamp him there. Any better ideas.

 

[Amoreyna]

Honestly it's called his opinion, he's allowed to have it and actually his posts aren't the worse I've seen on here especially towards Yahtzee. He even says that he used to like the videos but no longer does. He seems to mistake differences in opinion for lies but that really is he's own perjogative.

He is allowed to have it. He isn't allowed to insult, troll, and defame other people, especially not employees of the very website he is posting on, without present reasons and evidence why.

Actually, like I said before his posts are tame to some of the other stuff I've seen. On on thread I was called a whore. My point though was that his posts shouldn't be meet with the same level of anger that he has. It just keeps things dragging on. You didn't do this, but that one member who sat around and corrected his spelling and bashed him for it over and over again. That's the kind of stuff that needs to stop if we're going to get anywhere. Go back and read his last post, it's on the same page as this. It's a lot calmer without the flaming.

Evidence? Most everything is opinion based so how does evidenc play a role in that? Otherwise the rest I agree with.

Ah yes, since my profile is new then I must have only just stumbled across The Escapist, right?

No, but it means you are only just started a part of the community (Nice to meet you, by the way ), and therefore will be less wearied by the antics of these anti-Yahtzee campaigners.

Hmmm...every time I see your name with your avatar of Butters I keep thinking about when Butters wanted to be a vampire. Anyways - yes I was long wearied of the whole anti-Yahtzee nonsense and how hostile people get over this subject. Also tired of being called a fanboy if I defend anything he's done.

Personally I'm tired of people feeling the need to start these kind of threads so that they can publically announce their change in viewing habits. It would be one thing if you didn't like a show anymore and offered reasons why and maybe how the show could be made better. Somethig that this thread is lacking greatly in. But at the same time to try and limit a person's subject matter by banning certain threads will only cause more harm then good.

I am not advocating a ban on criticism of Yahtzee. Quite the contrary, I think that the 'review' part of his reviews can be pretty innaccurate. He appeared to praise GTA 4, a pathetic vomit pile of a game, and didn't go nearly far enough in crucifying that god-awful stinky cabbage that was Fable 2, and I have said so. He really should be harsher with some of the crap that is coming out now. But there is a place already set aside for that. It isn't banning threads or censoring opinion, it is applying some common sense and the forum rules. If someone takes issue with Yahtzee then go take issue with him in the threads he makes. This isn't the right place and it is really just spam.

Looking at GTA 4, he did go back and change his opinion saying that when he first reviewed it he was so surrounded with shit that anything even a little new looked like the second coming. Actually I have found that I do agree with him for the most part when he thinks a game is complete crap. Take Fable: TLC - I ended up getting a chance to play it after I watched his review and I though he was completely right in his negative view of the game. Did he leave some things out that would have made it look even worse? Sure he did - but he only has so much time and as simple as his animation sequences look it does take a lot of work to do them.

I think people start new threads outside of the episode based one just because the show ones get so laidened down with commets within the first couple of hours. Whether people want genuine opinions or just attention they should still be able to make constructive threads. Both of us would like to see people use common sense but asking the masses to employ it is like asking lemnings to not run off a cliff.

 

[CJ1145]

I regularly switch between ZP and Unforgotten Realms for the sake of freshness, which actually keeps both ridiculously funny for me. I find myself watching both from start to finish. Croshaw is a lot like crack - great the first few times around, but if you OD on him, you DIE.

 

[John Stalvern]

Sure is repeat thread around here.

 

[MattKirby]

I thought it was funny as shit when I started watching it too. But, now I consider it a logical review segment that I enjoy to watch because he still points out the flaws in major games. I still think he's funny but if you guys wanted nothing but humour I think you came to the wrong place. He simply makes reviewing games so much easier.

 

[-bladerunner-]

Haters.... Personally I believe ZP to be different each week as it is reviewing different games and this gives them a unique feel even if Yahtzee raves about them a bit.

 

[MrGFunk]

Im sorry but when i first started watching ZP i thought it was the greatest thing ever. a game review with some actual wit. but then suddenly it seems that after the GDC ZP special it all seemed to go downhill, atleast thats my opinion, ZP introduced me to the escapist, but..."

I see where you're coming from. I agree he's losing his edge. Maybe because he's reviewing bland games. I still enjoy the reviews but am not laughing as much as I have at others.

Devil may Cry was hilarious.

And I resound that I was introduced to the site through ZP so I'm a little fond of him.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Evidence? Most everything is opinion based so how does evidenc play a role in that? Otherwise the rest I agree with.

It's the screams of "lies" and "bullshit" etc. I have a personal distaste for people who throw around accusations of lying online. Particularly when their motivation for those accusations is fanboyism.

Anyways - yes I was long wearied of the whole anti-Yahtzee nonsense and how hostile people get over this subject. Also tired of being called a fanboy if I defend anything he's done.

To be honest, the Yahtzee fanboys are just as bad. "I met Yahtzee!", "Does Yahtzee like ice cream?", "Will Yahtzee have my babies!" are really pathetic. Not to mention, there is far more to The Escapist than Yahtzee.

Take Fable: TLC - I ended up getting a chance to play it after I watched his review and I though he was completely right in his negative view of the game. Did he leave some things out that would have made it look even worse? Sure he did - but he only has so much time and as simple as his animation sequences look it does take a lot of work to do them.

Really? I thought he was mostly wrong in that he wasn't nearly negative enough about the game. Hang on I'll find my comments on it...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/6.76789.939610

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/6.76789.956821

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/6.76789.1085907

 

[Samurai_Mitsurugi]

Actually, the whole point of a review is it's the opinion of the person REVIEWING it. So if Yahtzee says a game is a steaming pile of horse manure, or this control is fiddly, that's not ''DAMN YOU TO THE BOWELS OF HELL YOU DECEITFUL SINNER'' lies, it's just how he finds it. Some people will agree, some won't, so you can't regard a reviewer as a liar. Unless they said that the Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening was a complex flight simulator with subtly integrated turn-based RPG elements. Then they would either be a liar or in the middle of a very severe drug-based crisis.

 

[tommo8993]

what the hell
its sort of gone a bit but its still good

 

[Phoenix Arrow]

If you don't find it funny then don't watch it and keep your opinion to yourself. Simple as that.

 

[ihatefullmetalalchemist]

So-so I miss the music yahtzee use to play which adds to his argument about pudding which i completely support.

 

[Undeadpope]

maybe a little edge,but its barely avoidable(some have managed however)
but otherwise I still "tune in" every Wednesday,as long as I have internet access,I will.Its nice to have something to look forward to during the week(I do the same with unforgotten realms and unskippable,but of course on there respectable days).

 

[PureChaos]

granted it's not as original original as it was at the beginning but it has been going for well over a year now, give the guy a break. besides, the Little Big Planet review was great and the Thief one was, too. i still remember when new ones come out and i'm here every Wednesday waiting for the new one. everything looses a bit of steam when it goes on for a while but as far as i'm concerned it's still awesome.