Notable that it's much easier to do this when both parties are complete shit.
I really, really, hate this sort of crap.
Ok, but that video is the opposite. It's cheap to find a non-controversial statement that any politician could have said and trick people into agreeing with them. It's a different thing entirely to find a statement anyone could have said and trick people into disagreeing. Like, the Joe Biden back in chains is obviously unfair, that's just a cheap "gotcha!" But getting rid of North Korea's nuclear weapons and verifying it? They found that disagreeable. That's not a "gotcha! you disagree with Warren!" Like, they obviously would agree with the statement without the context of who said it. One of them even says she was trying to find something bad about the statements because Trump hypothetically said them.
After the past week, I'm genuinely rethinking my position on this year's election. I'm coming around to the opinion neither party wants to actually win, and they're simply one-upping each other in awfulness to turn off voters. It makes more sense than any past examination I've done on this year's electoral strategies, and any forthcoming examination I might perform.
Could make that the new national motto:
Just the other day I compared the Democratic National Committee to Max Bialystock and Leo Bloom from The Producers.
The point is it's easy to manipulate people when you lie to them.
So Biden is going to call for machine-gunning of demonstrators?
Very true, Biden wants cops to take their time and be precise, shoot 'em in the legs.
Well, he certainly seemed comfortable with mass police brutality against Occupy, and in Baltimore, Ferguson, and Standing Rock, and Guard deployments in those cities. Of course, he brings the oh so magnamimous compromise position of "why not just shoot 'em in the leg?" which is not just still potentially lethal, but ridiculously dangerous due to the threat of collateral damage and hitting bystanders (there's a reason cops are trained to aim center-mass if they have to use lethal force).
Sounds like the time for a third party then. If nobody wants to take the blame they should support it.
If you don't mind my asking, what do most third party voters do to actually proliferate the platform? I ask because this kind of, "Fuck the system, fuck it all!" conversation and protest voting are the only context in which I ever hear you guys talk about it, and only ever on the national level. I'm not saying none of you do more than that, I just haven't come across it yet. I mean, do you canvass? Phone bank? Register people to vote? Promote candidates on the local level where they would be able to build up a an early career? I never really encounter this stuff. On reflection, I don't think I've ever seen a third party candidate campaign at anything other than the federal level and I've never met anyone campaigning for them.
Not sure if I'm one of the "you guys" considering this is the first time I ever mentioned this.
Correction noted, that was some sloppy phrasing on my part. Like I said, it's just something I hear a lot every 4 years and it occurs to me that I never hear about it anytime else. I wonder if I'm just missing the conversation or if there's even a conversation to miss.
Yeah I'm generally always supportive of removing money from politics in some fashion which will open the door to more people being viable based on their ideas and not their donors. Yang's freedom bucks where everyone gets 100 bucks to donate to someone and that's that is prolly the best proposition I've heard regarding this but also the constitutional amendment to get money out of politics that wolfpac is pushing is something I'm a fan of.
We have been saying this for many generations now, sadly though the only thing that happens instead is THIS:
Cool, maybe the Democratic Party should try something else, then.
They do not have the support to be able to do so. Every time they try, Republicans just sweep up everything and ensure they will not be able to do anything at all when they regain seats. How can Democrats pass anything if the Republican courts will just throw it out as being unconstitutional? The current democratic party is lefter than ever right now, but all that has accomplished thus far is bickering amongst themselves self sabotaging and nothing at all being accomplished due to unwillingness to compromise on anything right now and refusing to even acknowledge different approaches only results in Republicans making your life and mine miserable for the rest of our lifetimes. It is the progressives willingness to accept republican control for the rest of yours and my lifetimes that is currently allowing this to happen, as the moderates are needed to gain the majority needed in order for the progressives to pass anything at all. It doesn't actually harm the moderates as much for republicans to have control as it harms progressives. Progressives inability to accept a moderate and then woo them into passing what is needed to accomplish their goals is the biggest obstacle to overcome here.
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