EA deal could bring TV-style commercials to games.

[hanselthecaretaker]

Capitalism destroys everything.

It’s a double edged sword like almost things. The bad aspects need to be reigned in far more than they currently are. Things like environmental waste, tax loopholes, corporate culture, income disparities, resource mismanagement, etc.

Human nature is the more immediate problem. The elite few will always find ways to exploit and take advantage of everyone else when there is no system in place to check them appropriately. The thing about it, is they forget or don’t care to acknowledge how things were when they were the little guys.

Power corrupts, absolutely ‘n all.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

You forgot the part of that conversation where I said I dislike most Western AAA developers.

God of War is good because it actually tries. I don't do Dark Souls. Not a Persona fan, but I do respect it. I still love Capcom even though they had a near decade dork age. One they finally got themselves out of. Resident Evil I do care about, but there are certain games I'm on and off with. Some I don't find much interest in.

You liked Ghost of Tsushima too IIRC?

 

[BrawlMan]

You liked Ghost of Tsushima too IIRC?

YES!

 

[Worgen]

Well its still too early to tell what form these things will have, plus its likely that the immediate backlash will force them to change plans. But, if I start seeing ads between matches in smite, then I am just going to uninstall it and never play it again.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

This isn't exactly a new thing.

If you play TF2 and play on non-valve servers (which is most of them) a lot of them have ads that play when you first join the server. It helps pay for the server costs. Some of those are pretty obnoxious and everyone hates them, but people put up with it because more servers = more better.

 

[wings012]

I'd be accepting of it if the ad revenue can allow them to replace predatory microtransactions and monetary practices.

But who am I kidding, they'll just add ads on top of the predatory practices.

 

[Gergar12]

Sign indies games it is. For the rest of my fucking life.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

I'd be accepting of it if the ad revenue can allow them to replace predatory microtransactions and monetary practices.

But who am I kidding, they'll just add ads on top of the predatory practices.

This was my same thoughts, years and years ago when people were all mad about expensive season passes. Honestly, if Battlefield 4 paid for its DLC with ads of Coke or Cheetos plastered all over their maps, I wouldn't have minded at all. Might have even made the game more immersive.

But no, now we get stuck with endless shitty skins and emotes being crammed into every fucking game ever. If they do this ad businesses, especially the pop up unskippable kind, AND have microtransactions... Jesus Christ I might well never play video games again.

 

[BrawlMan]

But no, now we get stuck with endless shitty skins and emotes being crammed into every fucking game ever. If they do this ad businesses, especially the pop up unskippable kind, AND have microtransactions... Jesus Christ I might well never play video games again.

You still can, just play the AA, indie games, and some of the AAA Japanese games.

 

[immortalfrieza]

Power corrupts, absolutely ‘n all.

Honestly, I've never agreed with that saying. People who are genuinely good people in the first place given power will do good with that power and use it responsibly, or at least try if they happen to not be intelligent enough to do so correctly. Power doesn't corrupt in any amount, it just gives people who were evil dicks to begin with the ability to act upon the cruel designs they've always possessed. Greater and greater power just gives those people more and more leeway and means to do more and more evil stuff.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Honestly, I've never agreed with that saying. People who are genuinely good people in the first place given power will do good with that power and use it responsibly, or at least try if they happen to not be intelligent enough to do so correctly. Power doesn't corrupt in any amount, it just gives people who were evil dicks to begin with the ability to act upon the cruel designs they've always possessed. Greater and greater power just gives those people more and more leeway and means to do more and more evil stuff.

I prefer Abraham Lincoln's quote: "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."

 

[MrCalavera]

Honestly, I've never agreed with that saying. People who are genuinely good people in the first place given power will do good with that power and use it responsibly, or at least try if they happen to not be intelligent enough to do so correctly. Power doesn't corrupt in any amount, it just gives people who were evil dicks to begin with the ability to act upon the cruel designs they've always possessed. Greater and greater power just gives those people more and more leeway and means to do more and more evil stuff.

So many of the worst, heinous atrocities commited in recent history weren't caused by "evil dicks to begin with", though.
They were caused by beaureaucrats just-doing-their-job that were given too much power. By most accounts quite regular dudes in everyday lifes.

 

[Bedinsis]

Are there any AA sports titles that could act as an alternative to EA Sports' titles?

Given how EA tend to use their sports titles to implement their worst practices there ought to be some sports video game fans that are tired of EA's baloney and would jump at an alternative, but I don't know if there are any.

 

[BrawlMan]

Are there any AA sports titles that could act as an alternative to EA Sports' titles?

Given how EA tend to use their sports titles to implement their worst practices there ought to be some sports video game fans that are tired of EA's baloney and would jump at an alternative, but I don't know if there are any.

Wind Jammers 1&2.

 

[happyninja42]

So long as these things don't make their way into paid experiences - this kind of stuff just comes with the territory.

It's cute that you don't think they are trying to pave the way to do exactly that.

 

[BrawlMan]

So long as these things don't make their way into paid experiences - this kind of stuff just comes with the territory.

The problem being, they're going to do exactly that. I don't know why you would think otherwise or be that naive about it. You know EA better at this point.

 

[laggyteabag]

It's cute that you don't think they are trying to pave the way to do exactly that.

The problem being, they're going to do exactly that. I don't know why you would think otherwise or be that naive about it. You know EA better at this point.

Im not being "cute", and im not being "naïve". I know full well that someone, somewhere, is going to try and shove advertisements in your face in paid experiences.

Its been done before, and logic dictates that it will be tried again.

I remember playing Rainbow Six Vegas 2, flying into the Las Vegas strip, and taking cover behind billboards that were advertising Lynx/Axe body spray, and the 2007 movie Beowulf. No doubt in the name of realism.

There is precedent for it too, today, seeing as if you watch anything on the Amazon Prime streaming service, Amazon often advertises their own shows to you. The Xbox dashboard is also loaded with adverts.

All I am saying is that in free 2 play games, it is harder to stand against, because the game is free. It should be unacceptable for paid-for games to do the same thing - but it would be short-sighted of anyone to predict that someone isn't going to continue to try to test the waters.

 

[Kyrian007]

Are there any AA sports titles that could act as an alternative to EA Sports' titles?

Given how EA tend to use their sports titles to implement their worst practices there ought to be some sports video game fans that are tired of EA's baloney and would jump at an alternative, but I don't know if there are any.

There are, but not that its any better. Kush Games started developing some games... got bought by Sega, merged with another studio, then sold to Take Two Interactive. They still have licenses for NBA, PGA, and WWE games under the 2K Games label. And they are just as monetized and crappy as anything EA makes. The problem with sports titles is licensing. Only those huge publishers will have official licensing deals, and without league affiliation or the actual teams and players... almost nobody would play the games. Depending on the sport I would (some sports games are a blast, especially multiplayer...) but by and large, a sports game with completely fictional teams and players would be a very niche market. So, only huge publishers could make the games that would appeal to enough players. And with those publishers, well they're all exactly like EA in practices.

 

[BrawlMan]

There is precedent for it too, today, seeing as if you watch anything on the Amazon Prime streaming service, Amazon often advertises their own shows to you

That's a TV Streaming service, not a video game. Big difference. At least i can skip the ads on Prime when watching a show.

The Xbox dashboard is also loaded with adverts.

Which is why Microsoft was a cavalcade of fuck ups during the majority of the 8th generation. They appealing to the TV and Sports crowd that never touch games in general or only buy NBA 2K or Madden.

It should be unacceptable for paid-for games to do the same thing - but it would be short-sighted of anyone to predict that someone isn't going to continue to try to test the waters.

Your previous post implied that they might be on the fence on such decisions.

So long as these things don't make their way into paid experiences - this kind of stuff just comes with the territory.

That wording implies they are on the fence about it or reconsidering. No "if", just "when" and "will". Which is why EA and any one else doing the same thing can fuck off.

Okay, so long as you know, but EA will take dickish option. I want there to be backlash, so they don't try that shit again nor catch on. Capcom tried it briefly with SFV, and everyone hated it. The backlash was so bad, they had to remove their unique ad feature within a month. If shit catches on like that with what EA is doing, I am even more less inclined to deal with Western AAA bullshit.

 

[laggyteabag]

That's a TV Streaming service, not a video game. Big difference.

The platform is irrelevant. Prime is a paid-for service, and Amazon shows their own ads. The internet is not ablaze with outrage over this, which shows acceptance.

This sets a precedent for paid-for services showing adverts. You don't think that the publishers you hate so much won't/haven't noticed that?