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Cheetodust

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The people that set the news agenda also pull the emotional strings of the population. If you put it to a vote to "weaken or smash" these media empires, there will be a protracted propaganda campaign followed by a (largely misinformed) vote to keep them in place.
Yes... I too believe that capitalism is incompatible with actual democracy.
 

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Right now I imagine true, genuine satanists are like the Care Bears compared to Qanon believers.

Also, satanists at least get vaccinated.
Indeed. With Flynn however, I'm putting money down on him being vaccinated. Same with all the others who aren't so good at concealing their grift. He also told a packed crowd at a recent-ish event to ask him if he was vaccinated, and before they could finish the question he said "it's none of your damn business!" Which still elicited huge cheers. He's vaccinated. Just like all the Fox news presenters. Sorry, forgot to use correct and legally obligated punctuation..."news."
 

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Indeed. With Flynn however, I'm putting money down on him being vaccinated. Same with all the others who aren't so good at concealing their grift. He also told a packed crowd at a recent-ish event to ask him if he was vaccinated, and before they could finish the question he said "it's none of your damn business!" Which still elicited huge cheers. He's vaccinated. Just like all the Fox news presenters. Sorry, forgot to use correct and legally obligated punctuation..."news."
'It's none of your business' in response to asking whether or not someone is vaccinated is a giant conformation that the person in question is vaccinated. And when it's coming from the gaping hole of a right-wing pundit it also functions as an audience endorsed way of saying 'You get the fuck outta the way of my gravy train'.
 
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Maybe so, but it doesn't really take much to prompt you to call people communists recently.
I mean, you're right, in as much as all it takes is calling yourself a communist for me to consider you a communist. We have a handful of those here; other than that, I don't know who you would be referring to.
Ah so now it's not...
It's the same as it always ever was. You're choosing to interpret my words to mean something that they don't. I never said people aren't being dangerous or harming others. Never even implied it. Others have chosen that position for me.
My own CO WORKERS say this shit to me, jack!
Ok, then I was wrong. You still spend an awful lot of time yelling at people who aren't here.
 

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Ok, then I was wrong. You still spend an awful lot of time yelling at people who aren't here.
If so, I'm in good company. Only difference is, I'm not trying to convince everyone else to be afraid of the things I gotta risk being around every day. Can't say the same thing for people who try to convince me that, even here in Dumpwater USA, I should look under the bed for ANTIFA, BLM, and SJW's.
 
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First off, what is sexual anarchy, and secondly, why should we not want it, cuz it's sounds fucking awesome!
Man, where was this shot when I was in my twenties? I’m in my mid thirties now and somehow I don’t think I’ll appreciate it nearly as much.
 

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That is the opposite of what would happen. If all those decisions were done via public vote, then all the lobbying efforts and all the money in politics would redirected into propaganda instead.
The effectiveness of propaganda is not that simple.
 

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First off, what is sexual anarchy, and secondly, why should we not want it, cuz it's sounds fucking awesome!
And just like that, we're using fake school board activists to demonize sex ed and LGDTQ kids

"Sexual reproduction is one of the most important concepts of biology (and that's why schools shouldn't teach it)"

I swear, conservatives think left wing groups are all coordinated because it's what they do.
 
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Arizona looks to be in good hands.



Affiliation with militia group[edit]
Rogers first claimed to be a "charter member" of the Oath Keepers, a militia movement group, in 2018. During her 2020 run for the state Senate, she promoted her membership in the group, which promotes fringe conspiracy theories and violent, extremist rhetoric, including talk of a new civil war.[12] In one fundraising appeal in her 2020 campaign, Rogers compared herself to Kyle Rittenhouse.[12][16]

Former aide's complaint[edit]
In January 2021, a former legislative aide to Rogers filed a complaint in the state Senate Ethics Committee against Rogers. The ex-staffer accused Rogers of abusive workplace conduct, including verbally abusing him and destroying his possessions in a tirade, repeatedly demanding that he work while on sick leave with COVID-19; demanding that he illegally perform campaign work on government time, and mocking his weight and appearance. In March 2021, the Ethics Committee dismissed the complaint against Rogers on a 3–2 party-line vote; the Republican majority said there was no "clear and convincing evidence" of an ethics violation, while the Democratic minority disagreed.[17] The former staffer subsequently filed a $500,000 notice of claim (a precursor to a lawsuit) against the state, alleging wrongful termination and harassment by Rogers.[18]

Attempts to overturn outcome of 2020 presidential election[edit]
Further information: Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election
Following the 2020 United States presidential election, in which President Donald Trump was defeated by Joe Biden, Rogers promoted the false claim that Trump had won the election nationally and in Arizona.[19] As Arizona's slate of electors met in Phoenix to formally cast the state's electoral votes for Biden, Rogers tweeted "Buy more ammo."[20][21] Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs condemned Rogers' statement.[21]

After a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol in January 2021 in a failed attempt to halt the counting of the electoral votes and keep Trump in power, Rogers falsely claimed the attack had been conducted by antifa groups.[19][22] Rogers was one of a number of Republican state legislators in Arizona who either defended and excused the attempted insurrection, or spread disinformation about responsibility for the attack.[22]

In February 2021, Rogers sponsored legislation seeking to rename a portion of Arizona State Route 260 as the "Donald J. Trump Highway"; state Senator Martin Quezada, a Democrat from Phoenix, described the proposal as "a desperate attempt to really pander to a base of voters even though the state of Arizona rejected Donald Trump."[23]

In June 2021, Rogers appeared on the online TV network TruNews to promote Arizona Republicans' baseless "audit" into the 2020 presidential election results in Maricopa County, Arizona. (The results had previously been repeatedly audited, with no irregularities found.) TruNews and its founder, Rick Wiles, are known for promoting antisemitism, including claims that "seditious Jews" plotted Trump's impeachment and that "the American people are being oppressed by Jewish tyrants." Rogers made the appearance on a show hosted by white nationalist commentator Lauren Witzke.[24]
 
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Chile is literally writing a new constitution through direct democracy, so you're still wrong.
The Chilean constitution is being drafted by elected representatives, and that draft is then put to a popular vote. It's a process existing squarely within a representative democracy.
 
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The Chilean constitution is being drafted by elected representatives, and that draft is then put to a popular vote. It's a process existing squarely within a representative democracy.
Cuba, on the other hand,
 

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Cuba, on the other hand,
Cuba, on the other hand, also put a constitution to a popular vote after it had been written by elected representatives.

The primary difference is that that representative democracy doesn't extend to the higher echelons of the government, which are not democratic at all.
 

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The Chilean constitution is being drafted by elected representatives, and that draft is then put to a popular vote. It's a process existing squarely within a representative democracy.
If your contention that it be important that this be done by "professionals", Chile is explicitly not using their professional class. They shut out their "professionals".
 

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If your contention that it be important that this be done by "professionals", Chile is explicitly not using their professional class. They shut out their "professionals".
My "contention" is that the draft constitution in Chile was designed by elected representatives, which it inarguably was. Confirmation was the only direct-democratic element, which I'm absolutely fine with. I have no problem with direct democratic elements in a representative democracy.
 
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My "contention" is that the draft constitution in Chile was designed by elected representatives, which it inarguably was. Confirmation was the only direct-democratic element, which I'm absolutely fine with. I have no problem with direct democratic elements in a representative democracy.
Even when it goes against everything you say, and is entirely the elements you don't like about direct democracy?
 

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Even when it goes against everything you say, and is entirely the elements you don't like about direct democracy?
If you think occasional conformational referenda constitute "entirely the elements I don't like about direct democracy", then you haven't actually understood my position at all.