For fuck sake, most of their player base are (allegedly) adults but can’t simply do the grown up thing of closing their wallets and walking away? Blizzard isn’t an abusive spouse holding all the money and power or a mafia Don to whom you owe fealty. They making fucking video games; if the game isn’t fun or respecting your time just fucking stop paying and leave it in the dirt.
World of Warcraft's community council is a failure (because of course)
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Bro how do you think microtransactions became a thing? You think it was just kids feeding into their ultimate team habit?
i wish that was how it worked, but you are forgetting the most addicting thing about MMO's......the friends you make on the game. I hated WoW for years before i quit forever, and I only stuck around because SOMEHOW my stupid fucking friends wanted to keep raiding every week. Ugh. My friends suck.
I think most of realize who was buying what, @Gordon_4 is just only pointing it out.
Most of my friends didn't even play WoW. The ones that did dropped off at some point, or moved on to another game or MMO. I never saw much appeal in MMOs, because of the asking price on subscriptions and I proudly don't regret my decision. Too much of a time sink, and I got other games to play. A friend of mine tried to get me in to DFO a couple times, but I was not feeling it, and the game could not fill the void of meeting wanting a Streets of Rage 4 at the time. Other brawlers to play as well; better time spent there.
Neither did mine, but the friends you make through guilds and random groups on the game often become quite lasting, and it's those friends that keep you around.
I thought the same thing about Everquest and other MMO's too. I thought why would I ever keep paying for a game when I can just buy a game and be done with it. But then a bunch of my co-workers at Activision (when I worked there before it became satan's sex party) they all played wow. And my boss bought me the game.....now that I think about it, I think this is how cults form....anyway I figured it was free for a month so why not give it a try.....and 14 years later I quit.
I didn't know you liked brawler video games. Reminds me of another forum user who was a big fan of FPS games with big manly guns in them. I wonder what happened to him.
I'd argue the lore got ruined even early on, specifically by the second expansion, but overtime we grew to like the best retcons because of what it gave us at that time.
Dreanai, Garrosh Hellscream, etc.
But it reached critical mass by Shadowlands.
I've already have my own fanfiction headcannon of how WOW lore and world building post Warcraft 3 using what they provided.
As for the healing situation you mentioned, that is a prime example of why player feedback can be sometimes detrimental to the game.
Well, yes.
CK Projekt made a bad videogame.
Blizzard has been abusing their staff members, supporting the abusers, whilst also making bad video games.
Look at Blizzard 10 years ago.
StarCraft 2 had recently been released - to critical and commercial acclaim - and the game was still being supported by excellent expansions, and the game was a massive eSports title.
World of Warcraft was still in its prime, just coming off of Wrath of the Lich King, which was the game's highest point, at least in terms of subscribers.
Blizzard were also just about to release Diablo 3 - the sequel to one of the best ARPGs ever - presumably to great success.
They were respected developers, making great games. It was their golden age.
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And then they spend the next decade chipping away at their reputation.
Obviously Diablo 3 was a disaster.
StarCraft 2 has ran its course.
Heroes of the Storm is basically dead.
World of Warcraft is on its second bad expansion in a row.
Overwatch is in limbo.
They even dug up the corpse of Warcraft 3, and then promptly ruined it.
And now the company is receiving abuse allegations left and right, whilst being sued by the literal government, all whilst bleeding senior staff members, and continuing to make poor decisions for their existing games.
I'd say that is a little more significant than a single overhyped, buggy release.
Quite possibly Blizzard's fall has been greater, but I feel like CD Projekt's fall was more sudden and explosive. They went from being heroes to villains basically overnight.
The difference is, when CDPR announces their next game people will still be excited for it. Next time BLizzard releases anything, nobody will give a fuck.
Well i guess we'll never know because they probably wont make a brawler anyway......
NO!
There are also strict limits on how much endgame progression you can do in a week, and systems that encourage you to only do a bit every day.
Funny thing about this, is back when WoW was good it also had limited progression per week. There was a tight limit on dailies you could do, and you could only run a raid once a week. There were no persistant and endlessly farmable progression systems.
I bet you that changed the moment, the merger between Blizzard and Activision happened.
Actually no. TO be honest WoW really didn't start to fail until the launch of Warlords of Draenor, and even then it was just a lackluster expansion. Legion was the first expansion that really saw an infinite system which players tolerated because it was a legendary weapon and it was cool as fuck. But then it became a dumbass necklace in Battle for Azeroth, and in Shadowlands it's just "juice" not even tied to any specific item.
I think a lot of people want to blame Activision for why Blizzard sucks. But in reality I don't think it was Activision's fault. I think Blizzard just got too caught up in being a rockstar that they didn't realize they were huffing too much cocaine and not actually doing their jobs.
Oh no, I'm not blaming Activision entirely, but they definitely has major influences way later and after the fact. Good to know about in this case that it was mainly all Blizzard's fault. Thank you for that bit of news.
Best post in the thread. This thread is done!