D'you mind telling me who that was last time?
No obligation of course, it would be perfectly reasonable to prefer not to tell me. I'm just interested.
Why You Should Have Your Eye On Florida
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No obligation of course, it would be perfectly reasonable to prefer not to tell me. I'm just interested.
My presidential vote doesn't matter like most people. I live in Illinois so it doesn't really matter who I voted for. For Cook County State's Attorney in 2020, I voted for Brian Dennehy for example.
Just because your vote didn't matter in the end result, doesn't mean it also doesn't matter when asked in a casual conversation like this.
Would you indulge us and just answer the question?
More extremely predicable Florida shit, fresh off the "conservatives lie about everything" presses
That evasion sounds a lot like "I voted for Donald Trump".
It's fine. I asked, but I also respect someone's right to prefer not to answer that question. It's a secret ballot for a reason.
Indeed, but the best response is to decline to answer explicitly on the grounds that your vote is private.
I didn't answer because I really didn't care about the election as far as voting goes because I knew it didn't matter who I voted for. I remember Obama's 1st presidential election and I didn't vote and my one friend got super mad at me for not voting and I'm like I live in Illinois and Obama is one of our senators and he's gonna win Illinois in a landslide, it doesn't matter. She also did the Occupy stuff and asked us to go and I'm like 'do you guys actually have some plan for doing anything outside of just standing out there?', and she's like 'nope', and I'm like 'then I ain't going'.
I did vote for Biden though.
I didn't vote for Trump, though If I voted today, I probably would vote for Trump over Biden. I hate Trump and consider him a con man but Biden has done so fucking horrid that I honestly think Trump would've done better. Mind you, I didn't like Biden much before the election as well. So it's just whoever is best of the worst basically, that's why people shouldn't vote for either party.
I gave one of my votes in the 2020 election.
I voted for Biden. I even held my nose and voted for Clinton, because Trump was such an obviously terrible choice and there's no point in voting for anyone else thanks to FPTP. Neither particularly mattered because we went from a safe blue state pre-2000 to a safe red state since.
2020 was the first time I'd ever voted a straight ticket, though. And seeing things post-2020-election has probably made straight ticket blue my vote for the foreseeable future.
I remain completely unsure what Biden has done that is so horrid - particularly in the context of his predecessor.
He's very middle of the road, "business as usual", boring. But then, that's what he was elected to be.
If you have an alternate interpretation, please elaborate
EDIT: Straight from the horse's mouth
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Whenever you see a quote formatted like: "There is no doubt" that gender transition of minors is 'child abuse', there should be alarms going off in your head that the person didn't say that. The part of that straight from the horses mouth is "there is no doubt", and "child abuse", but the single quotes on child abuse imply they weren't even in the same sentence. If you look into it, the order in Texas about transitioning children refers to gender change surgeries and medicines which might result in sterilization. So if we loop back around to the original tweet you posted, it said he "made it a criminal offense to aid kids in getting gender affirming care", but what he actually did was agree with his attorney general that certain specific instances of "gender affirming care" that might damage children, instances I'm sure you're aware are exceedingly rare, violate existing child abuse laws. But hey, "Abbott says doctors should have to report parents who try to cut their child's penis off" just doesn't have the same connotation.
Next is "told ERCOT chief to run up bills". If we follow the link you just provided, this claim comes from someone being told by the Public Utility Commission Chair that Abbott wanted them to "do whatever necessary to prevent further rotating blackouts that left millions of Texans without power." You can certainly argue that this isn't good governance, pushing off responsibility for fixing the blackouts to someone else in such vague language, but you can't reasonably interpret that as "told ERCOT to run up bills." It takes a rather malicious reinterpretation to go from "do whatever it takes to stop the blackouts" to "provide the same electricity service but charge 150x as much, got it!" To put it back to the broad concept here, you're basing the decision to not vote for any Republicans in part on one Republican telling the people under him to stop blackouts from continuing.
He is floating pardons for some police officers, that is true. Some of them are being prosecuted for charges of minimum 5-year sentence by virtue of firing department issued beanbag rounds after being told to. There are certainly abuses of qualified immunity in the world, but it exists exactly for cases like this. The powers that be ordered the police officers to clear a crowd and issued them specific "non-lethal" tools to do so, and now the same government is trying to lock them away for 5-99 years for following the order. That's just not justice. Were I in Abbott's position, I would be making the same considerations (on a case by case basis, as not all cases are equal).
It's his fucking Twitter account and yes: he means *all* gender affirming care
If it were a reasonable request, why is he lying about it afterword?
Of course you would, you're the modern GOP. You love this shit.
There is nothing he has said that indicates that.
He wasn't lying about it afterward. He told people to do what was needed to end the blackouts. Other people chose to run up the bills in response. He was asked if he made the decision to keep the rates set to max and he said no. Then people came forward to say they interpreted what he said that way.
Imagine a studio exec says a movie needs a really cool intro, and then the director decides to just have a horse pooping on screen for two minutes during the opening credits. The press goes to the exec and says "were you involved in the decision to have the horse poop intro", and he says "no, I had nothing to do with that". Then the director said "yeah he was, he told me to make a really cool intro." Was the exec lying?
You're not even willing to consider something that would break in Republicans favor. I think Schadrach isn't brainwashed like you, and hope to get a response from them.
The man fucking said it himself, the fuck are you lying for? If trans kids can't socially or medically transition in the state of Texas, what gender affirming care is left?
Cop: *gets ordered to clear and area and commits brutality on camera*
You: "But he was just following orders!"
As if that makes it better. Fucking hell, apply your own dumbass "horse pooping on camera" analogy here
EDIT: And that's just Texas. Florida GOP is doing the Don't Say Gay thing, sitting members of Congress are advocating bullying and physical assault, there's the whole CRT and "woke" advertising hysteria leading major conservatives to bemoan the lack of sexy M&Ms, and just loads of utter nonsense
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Well, you see, you made up the "socially" part wholesale, and then applied restrictions on adults to the children themselves. So, perhaps I should ask, what are you lying for?
Correct. If you want to blame someone for the result, you blame the people who gave that order and provided the means. You wouldn't prosecute an assembly line worker for installing faulty parts in a car, you would prosecute the company. It's different if the police are brutalizing people in violation of policy, then they ought to be prosecuted, but if someone is told "you clear the crowd, you use bean bag rounds to do so" and then try and put them in prison for firing bean bag rounds when ordered to clear a crowd, that is wrong.