Funny Events of the "Woke" world

[Baffle]

Should've hit him proper hard if he was going to do it at all. Then everyone gets all sweaty and wrestles on the ground for a bit and there's clothes ripped and stuff. Ron Pearlman goes to break it up, but Stone Cold Steve Austin leans across and reminds him that he's (a) quite old, and (b) not actually any of the characters he plays, while (c) admitting the same things about himself. The fight continues, to be ideally brought to a close by Ricky Gervais once again telling everyone he hopes he gets cancelled for his boundary-pushing humour.

 

[thebobmaster]

One thing I'll point out is that I've heard quite a few people claim that Will Smith couldn't have been upset by the joke because he was laughing at it. First off, we only saw him chuckling a bit when the camera was pointed at him, and even then, there are multiple ways to read that.

Speaking from personal experience, I have a tendency to laugh when I'm in an uncomfortable situation to try to ease the tension for myself, not because I actually find the situation funny. I also tend to become very sarcastic in those situations, which tends to not help when the other person thinks I'm making fun of them or not taking them seriously because I'm "joking around".

I also wouldn't be surprised if Will Smith's laughter was the equivalent of those people who you know you've pissed off when they start smiling during an argument. Again, I'm one of those people. If you go back and watch Will Smith's reaction, don't just look at his chuckle, look at his body language and eyes. He does NOT seem actually amused to me.

Oh, and for the record, Will Smith has released an actual apology, it's just been overlooked by all the other discussion.

 

[Agema]

Oh, and for the record, Will Smith has released an actual apology, it's just been overlooked by all the other discussion.

Indeed, a genuine proper apology, specifically to Chris Rock.

Nice. Not one of those pissant non-apologies we so often get these days.

 

[Silvanus]

He mocked her hair style not her disability. Whomever wrote the joke probably didn't know about the disability. It was more a mockery about how shit G.I. Jane was more than it was a plug at Jada anyway. No matter how you slice it, it's a fairly innocent joke taken the wrong way.

Nah, if you slice it and find intention, then it wasn't taken the wrong way.

You're assuming that Rock didn't know the subject he was joking about, which is.... a bit of a stretch. Possible I suppose.

See above about the unknown disability factor. Second of all WILL LAUGHED at the joke. If someone was mocking your wife's disability why the fuck would he laugh? He is on tape laughing. Jada then leans in, says some shit, and Will gets slappy with it, BAM that's a brilliant pun.

I saw that as a "...wait a minute" moment. He's seen with a smile on his face for less than 2 seconds after the comment.

I mean, it took me that long to just make the connection between G. I. Jane and the shaved head.

But people likely wouldn't be talking about the Oscars if that was the case. Every bit of Oscar news is the slap heard round the world. Frankly if I was a first time Oscar winner, I would be pissed that the whole night is soured because the Smiths can't take a joke (tasteless or otherwise is irrelevant).

I'm sure those Oscar winners' enormous wallets will cushion the blow.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Yeah but people these days are too easily offended so it's become harder to be truly funny when you aren't allowed to joke about anything.

A new Jackass movie *just* came out. Maybe develop a sense of humor?

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

You lose a lot of views when you stop being gaming's great satan.

I've just always been curious how she caused Mass Effect Andromeda to be buggy

Well so the claim goes EA took the body scans and decided they needed changing for diversity and inclusion reason and so outsourced the work to some other studio to do quick and on the cheap. So in an attempt to be more inclusive they models and rigging and stuff was done by some studio who up to that point had probably only done mobile games.

If they'd kept the "Exclusionary" character models (read more sexy female ones based on real people scanned in) then time wouldn't have been lost having to wait for the new redone models to be complete and sent back and they could have just used the ones they had made in house in cutscenes and tested stuff more.

Also less gaming's Satan and more not getting the front page on half or more of game publications signing her praises as a revolutionary thinker for her crap.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Why are we judging people for having an open relationship now? That doesn't have any relevance to the incident, its just prurient.

I've never heard of an open relationship that hasn't ended up falling apart.

In Will Smith's case dude really is torturing himself it seems just cause he loves Jada Smith and she almost looks on him with a level of contempt (Seriously one of the interview things with them was an almost brutal tearing down and Will basically blaming him for all their issues)

 

[Silvanus]

I've never heard of an open relationship that hasn't ended up falling apart.

In Will Smith's case dude really is torturing himself it seems just cause he loves Jada Smith and she almost looks on him with a level of contempt (Seriously one of the interview things with them was an almost brutal tearing down and Will basically blaming him for all their issues)

But we don't have any particular insight into their private lives. We don't know what we're talking about. All we have to go on is an image curated by a bunch of culture sites and celeb mags.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

On the Will Smith thing.

Woke world asks if you're white you please stop on about it

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

But we don't have any particular insight into their private lives. We don't know what we're talking about. All we have to go on is an image curated by a bunch of culture sites and celeb mags.

and the fact before the open relationship claims Jada was thought to be cheating on him.

Then the interview where Will was basically in tears as he got blamed for all their problems.

 

[Buyetyen]

But we don't have any particular insight into their private lives. We don't know what we're talking about. All we have to go on is an image curated by a bunch of culture sites and celeb mags.

Yes, but something something men have it way harder blah blah blah cranking hog to culture war red meat.

 

[Trunkage]

Um...you mean on repeats of shows made before I old enough to watch, or are you really old?

You know, I did get to see some repeats of Benny Hill when I was very young. That what absolute shite. Did get to see some Goodies. Thought that was way better

Edit: I remember Good News Week and Spicks and Specks. Maybe its just Aussie comedy

Yeah but people these days are too easily offended so it's become harder to be truly funny when you aren't allowed to joke about anything.

I'm starting to believe that this is fundamentally not true. If you been watching JP Sears career trajectory into calling for trans and gay people to be murdered as a comedy sketch live on stage... I don't know how much 'not offended' you want.

The problem is that the offensive is what's driving the jokes. Not, you know.... any attempt at being funny

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Yes, but something something men have it way harder blah blah blah cranking hog to culture war red meat.

Fine I'll throw down the easy obvious challenge to prove your side.

Who has Will Smith been seen "Stepping out" with other than Jada?

 

[Buyetyen]

Fine I'll throw down the easy obvious challenge to prove your side.

Who has Will Smith been seen "Stepping out" with other than Jada?

I'm not taking a side in this, as everyone involved is a pampered multi-millionaire with issues I can't be fucked to care about. Not everything has to be a gestalt for the culture wars and trying to make it so is both tedious and unnecessary.

The problem is that the offensive is what's driving the jokes. Not, you know.... any attempt at being funny

There's a large number of non-comedians who think they understand comedy, but are really just assholes who enjoy punching down. Hell, there are actual comedians like that, they just tend not to be extraordinarily successful because they're lazy.

 

[Silvanus]

and the fact before the open relationship claims Jada was thought to be cheating on him.

Then the interview where Will was basically in tears as he got blamed for all their problems.

This is all manufactured celeb media guff that you're just connecting to this event without much credible reason to. Can't you see that?

 

[Buyetyen]

This is all manufactured celeb media guff that you're just connecting to this event without much credible reason to. Can't you see that?

You're missing the point. This isn't really about defending Will Smith, it's about shitting on his wife. Any excuse to do so will suffice.

 

[CriticalGaming]

If you been watching JP Sears career trajectory into calling for trans and gay people to be murdered as a comedy sketch live on stage... I don't know how much 'not offended' you want.

Well perfect example. Just don't make trans jokes at all, without being trans yourself because otherwise it's a big problem.

I think it is a misnomer that comedy should always punch up, because part of the requirement for a joke to land (usually) is relatability. And If Chris Rock (since he is topical right now) only joked about richer people than him, then he the average person who buys his albums and tickets to his show will not find him funny because there is no relatable thread to the jokes.

No comedian punches up specifically, because it doesn't work. But the best comedian's imo joke about everyday life and when they joke about some asshole in a subway line who doesn't understand how sandwiches work the asshole in question is not a specific person, its a generalization of an annoying person we've all been behind in any number of lines. Or they joke about family, because it's relatable stuff.

And humor is so subjective between people. What is funny to some, can never be funny to all. I told a brilliant, FUCKING BRILLIANT pun a few posts ago and nobody cared.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

But also, it was hardly that big an altercation. A relatively small slap. The pearl-clutching is out of proportion.

And what Chris Rock said was itself way out of line, and I'd say more harmful than what Smith did. It's normalised to take the piss out of disability on stage at a national event, is it? To see a room full of rich people laughing uproariously at a woman's disability, as she sits there visibly uncomfortable, was pretty grim.

How are you saying that hitting someone is less harmful than the words of a joke? This is the ridiculousness we live in today. The joke didn't get "uproarious" laughter, it was a standard "Oscar" joke, as Chris Rock said, it's a GI JANE joke, come on. And giving a standing ovation to someone that just assaulted a comedian is a "better place" than giving the standard forced laughter of an Oscar joke that that joke received? You would get thrown out of basically any place if you did that to someone in public. Yet security doesn't escort Will out and he gets a standing ovation for his speech, I guess we're living in a utopia!!!

How is it a relatively small slap? That's about as hard as you can slap someone.

This is a relatively small slap. And if Will Smith would've done that, I think people would've laughed at the slap and Will would've made that same exact point to Chris Rock.

 

[Buyetyen]

No comedian punches up specifically, because it doesn't work.

So in the history of comedy, no one has ever gone after the powers that be as the subject of their jokes? You really want to make that argument?

 

[CriticalGaming]

So in the history of comedy, no one has ever gone after the powers that be as the subject of their jokes? You really want to make that argument?

No of course there is punching up is some degree, so long as it's something or someone that everyone encounters. Presidents, polticial figures (within reason), Harvey Weinstien, that kind of thing.

But the most revered comedians talk about everyday life situations more than anything else. Relatability is key.