Well... I'm not really sure that it's uninitentional.
And I pointed out others very much were saying different.
Yes and it would be at best impolite and at worst probably close to if not fully violating the forum rules to express the precise thoughts as to why some of them are doing it.
Yes it is a good strawman you just made.
Oh right literally being able to point to fucking things said in this fucking thread towards me is now strawmanning is it?
What was my attack again?
Before you and others started crying I was being unfair and mean.
Oh how the strange tales get written down in history by those with socio-political angles and how odd it is to see what they choose to throw praise at and ignore.
So arguing it's not a strawman just the position I'm going to take despite the fact it would make no logical sense for me to take that position or move to it from my given stated position other than to entertain the argument you wish to have not the one we're having.
Why would I accept strawmen as my actual position?
I didn't set the fucking rules. Whenever I've posted fairly well known people and accounts the replies have always been how they're "Not influential enough so you're posting bullshit". These are the rules the people you side with set out. Don't like them, too bad I'm done being told to play by an entirely different set of rules.
You forget that's mentions and in some episodes Bill doesn't need to mention it because it's shown not told to the audience (no really) it would probably come to 10 our of 12 in reality
Ok then tell me the character / personality of Bill or Supergirl's sister then and I will go through all the friends main cast to define their personalities and other characteristics. etc.
Except every time people say "Hey maybe we should keep a close eye on this stuff" then people yell that sad person is a bigot.
You realise even "The Last Action Hero" a film parodying those kind of films had the main character tropes be more fleshed out that "Gruff Straight White Dude" right? Kinda proving there is more to such film character than that just by the fact they had to do more with the character to do the parody and eventual deconstruction.
What film studio would dare have a female lead in this day and age be a homeless war veteran with PTSD?
IS this the one where they then had to stop doing blind auditions cause they were hiring more white people?
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Uhrm, by "shown not told", do you mean... having a girlfriend? Because if so, we can count literally every appearance of Rory as making "heterosexuality" his personality.
What on earth purpose would this serve?
I'm not even sure how one has a moral standpoint with rejecting blind auditions. The only opposition seems to be that diversity is the end goal, or rather, a goal in of itself.IS this the one where they then had to stop doing blind auditions cause they were hiring more white people?
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Since you've skipped to season 3 and watched some of season 1, I'll raise you a season 2.
I'm pointing out they are copying you
Ah. You said yes, you attacked people. Why are you surprised people attacked back then?
What was that you said about Bill? She had to show but not tell anyone that she was gay.
Perhaps if you stop strawmannig people, they wont do it back to you
I am very aware that you cant see what you are doing.
Spurious? You've already made strawmming arguments in this very quote
False. At least from our interaction in this thread
They believe you are attacking them. Towing lines has got nothing to do with it
A strawman is where you replace an a person argument with a false one. I can probably point out where you do that with all your quotes. I can sure do it with every single quote on this page.
You're going to have to point out where I did any of that.
Well at the risk of pissing off more people in here there have been two fairly well known trans people in the woke crowd who have admitted to lets say being less than honest / upfront with partners.
Strawman.
Yes but also funnily enough part of one of those relationships hinged on how being a lesbian relationship it was different due to bigotry. The relationship didn't even last 1 full episode but bigotry in the catholic church came up pretty quick.
To prove you can actually do it and prove that the characters have personalities far beyond their sexuality. You claimed Friends characters were just their sexuality in response and I'm more than willing to prove you wrong so will you prove me wrong on the characters I mentioned?
After I was copying them.
What was my attack again?
Actually I quite liked The Magicians because it was well written.
As I've already explained. IT DOES.
How is it a strawman when I point out that it actually had happened.
Then point out why it's a strawman by dismantling it.
Which then comes down to semantics and shifting the goal posts.
Because they see not towing the line as an attack on them. Anything not perfectly in line is seen as an attack.
You yourself admitted to saying you brought it up because that's where my argument would go in your opinion. That would be a strawman.
Right, so "shown not told" actually adds 1 episode, and all the rest is no different to straight relationships.
No, I didn't say Friends characters were "just their sexuality". You're the only one claiming characters have nothing to them but sexuality. I said that sex and romance are more prominent for Friends characters than they are for Bill Potts or Supergirl's sister.
Except I don't think in the history of Doctor Who a character has said 7 times in a series "I'm straight".
So not what I was arguing that makes your point a non sequitur
K, so you're moaning about a joke.
Have you forgotten what you were arguing already?
Except it wasn't done as a joke it was done to make sure no-one missed the fact she was a lesbian to say "Look we have a lesbian character here" to try and look good to a certain audience who will blindly flock to support a character and attack any-one who dares say the character isn't very well written or complex.
That often in media gay characters are reduced to having being gay be a main core character trait with little other personality.
