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Watched one episode. Holy crap, it's horrible. I rolled my eyes so much, they hit me in the back of the head from having propellered out of my skull and making a full circumference of the planet. Every joke is either dumb edge, crassness and/or cringe, lots of mocking of common tropes and then just doing those tropes. Newsflash, being self-aware is not subversive in and of itself. Every character is an unlikable asshole, which can work fine, but only if combined with humor and wit, which this show has none of. Seriously, who the fuck is this for?
 

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I haven't watched the show, but from what I've heard, Velma is the worst thing to happen to the Scooby-Doo franchise since Scrappy-Doo.
At least Scrappy is a jerk with heart of gold and is not a complete asshole. There are Scooby things related worse than Scrappy Doo.

 
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At least Scrappy is a jerk with heart of gold is not a complete asshole. There are Scooby things related worse than Scrappy Doo.

As hard as it might be to believe, Scrappy was actually well-received when he first appeared.

And yeah, there are worse Scooby-Doo related things than Scrappy. Scrappy's just an easy target.
 

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Watched one episode. Holy crap, it's horrible. I rolled my eyes so much, they hit me in the back of the head from having propellered out of my skull and making a full circumference of the planet. Every joke is either dumb edge, crassness and/or cringe, lots of mocking of common tropes and then just doing those tropes. Newsflash, being self-aware is not subversive in and of itself. Every character is an unlikable asshole, which can work fine, but only if combined with humor and wit, which this show has none of. Seriously, who the fuck is this for?
It's like lampshading if the lampshade was made of month-old bacon.
 

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It's stuff like this that makes me question why HBO Max decided to up its subscription cost. I re-subbed for stuff like TLOU, not like Velma.

I just don't understand the logic behind the show; It's supposed to fight racism and bigotry, but the show consists of exactly those. Character deconstruction? more like character destruction/assassination

What have they done to our beloved characters? Velma used to be this smart, witty, funny girl who was the most level-headed of the Mystery Inc. Now she's bitter, mean, and honestly kinda racist herself. Daphne is an even more stereotypical popular teen girl, without any of the charms from the past iterations. Fred is an idiotic douchebag, unlike his confident leadership role from past shows. Shaggy is replaced by Norville, again without any of the charms. And Scooby is not even in the show (at least I haven't seen him yet).

Did they even see Mystery Inc or What's new, Scooby-doo? Because those two do a far better job of character development.


At least Scrappy is a jerk with heart of gold is not a complete asshole. There are Scooby things related worse than Scrappy Doo.

I do remember watching that from beginning to its finale. Granted, it was kinda terrible, but it knew what spin-off meant, focusing just on Shaggy and Scooby while acknowledging the rest of the members were there and even cameoed. I would even go as far as to say I'd rather watch entireity of this again than Velma. It doesn't work as a spin-off nor as its own independent thing.
 

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As hard as it might be to believe, Scrappy was actually well-received when he first appeared.

And yeah, there are worse Scooby-Doo related things than Scrappy. Scrappy's just an easy target.
I am aware of all that. The only reason Scrappy gets so much backlash from the fandom is either insecurity or exaggerating the worst qualities about him.

I do remember watching that from beginning to its finale. Granted, it was kinda terrible, but it knew what spin-off meant, focusing just on Shaggy and Scooby while acknowledging the rest of the members were there and even cameoed. I would even go as far as to say I'd rather watch entireity of this again than Velma. It doesn't work as a spin-off nor as its own independent thing.
I couldn't get past the first two episodes. The show just felt very boring and dry. As far as spin-offs involving Scooby and Shaggy, Ghoul School and the one with the monster themed Wacky Race are so much better. At least those have interesting side characters and monsters, or a unique premise.
 
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Given that I've never liked a single thing that Mindy Kaling has done I have zero reason to think this would be any good.
 

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I'm really curious what the view numbers are going to be like, clearly they knew this was going to be a shit show from before so they probably went in hoping it'll drive traffic for hate watch or just curiosity, wonder if it'll work.

Anyone ever watched this cartoon called undergrad (might have been a canadian thing), it was this pretty crass show about college student that came out like 20 years ago, wonder if it's similar to that.
 

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I don't understand the idea behind taking a beloved children's program and clearly re-making it in a rated R context. Why make an adult version of a kids show?
Cartoon Network did this, to a limited extent, with the Scooby gang back in the aughts. It was far more celebratory than mean-spirited, though.

Still, I'm not going to watch this, but I do wonder if it's worse than what John Kricfalusi did to Ren & Stimpy.
 

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Still, I'm not going to watch this, but I do wonder if it's worse than what John Kricfalusi did to Ren & Stimpy.
I find both equally horrible. The only difference is with Kricfalusi, someone could have seen him coming to the logical conclusion of an unhinged and unfiltered Ren & Stimpy. I could not say the same for anything Scooby Doo related.
 
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As hard as it might be to believe, Scrappy was actually well-received when he first appeared.

And yeah, there are worse Scooby-Doo related things than Scrappy. Scrappy's just an easy target.
I don't even know people hated Scrappy until I started participating in and observing online discussions about him. I was so confused when the first live-action movie depicted him as a villain.
 

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Still, I'm not going to watch this, but I do wonder if it's worse than what John Kricfalusi did to Ren & Stimpy.
Nothing's worse than that, seriously! That was the most pathetic and disgusting display by someone who was already very pathetic and disgusting. Velma is Kaling dumping pigs blood onto the Scooby gang, John K pretty much whored-out Ren And Stimpy for a few measily bucks. So yeah, that bottom remains unsurpassed.
 

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I don't even know people hated Scrappy until I started participating in and observing online discussions about him. I was so confused when the first live-action movie depicted him as a villain.
I kind of was aware of the hatred Scrappy had by that point. If you were a preteen, teenager, or young adult and still a fan of Scooby Doo, most people were at least semi aware of the hate Scrappy got over the years. Even as a kid, I didn't like Scrappy being the villain and I felt it was a pointless take that. Before Velma, it was the most mean spirited Scooby-Doo property out there at the time. The first live-action Scooby-Doo looks like prim roses by comparison.
 

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People are blaming the high ratings for Velma on people hate-watching.

I think people underestimate how bad the entertainment taste of the average person is. There’s a reason reality shows are, or at least, used to be, so popular.
 
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Whatever, just wash your hands.
I don't even know people hated Scrappy until I started participating in and observing online discussions about him. I was so confused when the first live-action movie depicted him as a villain.
I didn't like him at all, he's the worst combination of overeager and worthless and getting everyone around him into trouble.

People are blaming the high ratings for Velma on people hate-watching.

I think people underestimate how bad the entertainment taste of the average person is. There’s a reason reality shows are, or at least, used to be, so popular.
You can tell the difference based on how quickly those ratings drop.
 

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People are blaming the high ratings for Velma on people hate-watching.

I think people underestimate how bad the entertainment taste of the average person is. There’s a reason reality shows are, or at least, used to be, so popular.
Two and a half men went on for what, 8 seasons? and that's nothing compared to The Big Bang Theory.
 
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Two and a half men went on for what, 8 seasons? and that's nothing compared to The Big Bang Theory.
There's hate watching, and then there's clearly watching it, but you're afraid to admit that you like the show or certain aspects about the show. And finally, you just have people who genuinely enjoy the show or think it's fine.

Both of the shows you mentioned I hate; especially BBT. I could never get into a single episode of BBT. I dislike hate watching, because you're giving the show or movie unneeded recognition and giving them ratings/money. Granted, the ratings dropped really fast for Velma, but that's not always the case.
 
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