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Because Hi-Fi Rush is a smaller scoped, sanely budgeted game priced accordingly with an interesting and reasonably unique premise and gameplay loop.

I mean I liked Forspoken, not to the tune of $100+ AUD, but it will make its way to my Steam library eventually. But it does not shock me in the slightest it got it’s lunch stolen by HiFi Rush.
 

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Some Forspoken fans were already trying to start shit with Hi-Fi and its fans, because the latter was "stealing thunder and attention" from the former. Welcome to the gaming industry fuck heads. A majority of the Hi-Fi fans don't take them seriously, mocked them, and moved on. This is news makes the Forspoken nuts look all the more pathetic. If people like that game, it's fine, but show some proper respect and don't rag on a game because it's better and doesn't treat its audience like dumb asses who think Joss Whedon humor/writing is all that is needed for a game to succeed.
I don't know much about Hi-FI but are they even in the same genre? Because they don't look like they much in common besides being video games.

I fucking swear some gamers can't be happen with their own favorites, they're only happy if they tear down someone else's. It wasn't funny when some Horizon fans were dissing Elden Ring and it's not funny now.

I don't have a stance on either beyond what I've seen in the tailers but honest Hi-Fi Rush looks far more entertaining from the trailer than anything I've seen from forspoken so far.
 
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I don't know much about Hi-FI but are they even in the same genre? Because they don't look like they much in common besides being video games.
Other than being 3rd person action games, neither have much in common. Hi-Fi is a 3rd person Action Rhythm Brawler in the style of a PS2 game (think DMC combined with Jet Set Radio and Guitaroo Man) with modern sensibilities. Forspoken focuses on mainly projectile combat with magic and melee mixed in-between, but is more of an Action-RPG. At the same time, Square just wanted to FFXV again, but with only slightly better combat and magic system.

I fucking swear some gamers can't be happen with their own favorites, they're only happy if they tear down someone elses. It wasn't funny when some Horizon fans were dissing Elden Ring and it's not funny now.
Amen to that, brother! This type of shit dates all the way back to the SNES/Genesis days on the playground, lunch time, or after school. I got sick of it by the mid sixth generation era, and anyone trying that shit I told them to screw off. Either enjoy your game(s) or don't, but leave me out of your dumb elitist shit.
 
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"Stop playing that game! You have to play this game so that I feel validated in buying it!"
That's what you get for buying into the console exclusive hype at all. They must feel like fools paying $70+ for a game that don't even look that good, while HF is a AAA game charged at $30, and is for "free" on Game Pass.
 

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That's what you get for buying into the console exclusive hype at all. They must feel like fools paying $70+ for a game that don't even look that good, while HF is a AAA game charged at $30, and is for "free" on Game Pass.
Fuck, you can play Forespoken on PC and buy it on steam.

Do I kinda wish the PS5 had more reason to justify its existence then to be a high powered PS4(and a backup once my PS4 eventually dies)? Sure. It still doesn't make Forespoken a killer app for the PS5, no matter how much some people want it to be one.

Right now my PS5 is "That machine I have so I can eventually play through Demons Souls whenever I get around to it because my PS3 is dead". I mean, sure, PS4 development is coming to an end so maybe there will be more games that justify the PS5's CPU/SSD and price tag but right now there's not much on it that I care about that I can't get on my PC.
 
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Sure. It still doesn't make Forespoken a killer app for the PS5, no matter how much some people want it to be one.
The PS5 already has 3 killer apps: R&C: Rift Apart, Returnal, and God of War: Ragnarök. What more can these fools want? Even when their console of choice is dominating, they still bitach and moan like they lost something and didn't get every single thing they wanted.
 

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I don't know much about Hi-FI but are they even in the same genre? Because they don't look like they much in common besides being video games.

I fucking swear some gamers can't be happen with their own favorites, they're only happy if they tear down someone else's. It wasn't funny when some Horizon fans were dissing Elden Ring and it's not funny now.

I don't have a stance on either beyond what I've seen in the tailers but honest Hi-Fi Rush looks far more entertaining from the trailer than anything I've seen from forspoken so far.
Hi-fi is rhythm game with a combat game presentation. Basically Sekiro, but more colorful.


Forespoken wishes it was in the same category of game.



Oh and what you mentioned reminds me of when last of us 2 fans were talking shit about ghost of tsushima, for much the same reason.


These people can't be happy they like a game, they need it to have social clout behind it too and be used as a tool towards other ends. As someone who also is super into the game he's into, I guess due to being into niche and often never even released stateside stuff, I learned to just be happy the games I like exist, and not expecting the culture around me to celebrate them on top.



Other than being 3rd person action games, neither have much in common. Hi-Fi is a 3rd person Action Rhythm Brawler in the style of a PS2 game (think DMC combined with Jet Set Radio and Guitaroo Man) with modern sensibilities. Forspoken focuses on mainly projectile combat with magic and melee mixed in-between, but is more of an Action-RPG. At the same time, Square just wanted to FFXV again, but with only slightly better combat and magic system.


Amen to that, brother! This type of shit dates all the way back to the SNES/Genesis days on the playground, lunch time, or after school. I got sick of it by the mid sixth generation era, and anyone trying that shit I told them to screw off. Either enjoy your game(s) or don't, but leave me out of your dumb elitist shit.
I love that second video. Every time we tell people they're not playing the game correctly they call us gatekeeper elitists but when it's a game they want to succeed suddenly all reviewers used the combat system wrongly.
 
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It's John fucking Carpenter. If he says refurbished is in, then refurbished is in, casually changing gaming terminology like a boss.
Apparently that game gives you trigger warnings, unironically.



Never had any interest in playing it to begin with but that sure doesn't change my mind lol. With the degree of specificity these are basically spoilers too.
 
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Oh and what you mentioned reminds me of when last of us 2 fans were talking shit about ghost of tsushima, for much the same reason.
Technically, alt-right "fans" of Tsushima started it, with some obsessed fans of LOUS II joining in. Most of the fans on either game told all of them to fuck off and explicitly state how neither game has nothing in common with each other.

These people can't be happy they like a game, they need it to have social clout behind it too and be used as a tool towards other ends. As someone who also is super into the game he's into, I guess due to being into niche and often never even released stateside stuff, I learned to just be happy the games I like exist, and not expecting the culture around me to celebrate them on top.
This has always been a problem with anything considered geeky or nerdy at the time. Seeking validation and to be more "adult". It ain't just from people on the consumer side. Gaming Critics suffer from this just as bad, and many times even worse. Always wanting the approval of Daddy Ebert or want every game to be a movie or a 2-hour walk-a-thon. "Otherwise, how is anyone gonna take us seriously like the film industry?!", said by people claiming not be exclusive others in gaming. Stop seeking the approval of assholes who don't like nor care for us, and focus on making the community and medium better by appreciating what we got, and actual shit to improve on. Not some random yahoos who already hate or look down gaming to begin with.

I love that second video. Every time we tell people they're not playing the game correctly they call us gatekeeper elitists but when it's a game they want to succeed suddenly all reviewers used the combat system wrongly.
Or act like some game is a misunderstood masterpiece, when in reality it wasn't that good to start and has stripped down mechanics and a horrible try hard, "grim and gritty", tone deaf story. Yes, I am referring to you DmC (2013). Another problem with alot of these critics is that they just don't spend time on many of these games. Even the ones they do like or enjoy. They play it, and usually immediately rush to the next one. A lot of y'all are large gaming websites. Hire more people or give yourselves more time and stop giving a shit about getting the most clicks or ad revenue. You're part of the problem within the gaming industry when it comes to things like this.
 

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"This is why we need to spend billions of dollars buying a problematic, teetering behemoth of a studio, rather than hiring and nurturing independent talent, because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing." - Phil Spencer, if he was being honest

You have to wonder how much of it is him, vs just “the Microsoft way” being part of his indoctrination into their corporate culture. They’ve kinda gone from the Embrace, Extend, Extinguish days to “When in doubt, buy them out”, because at this point it’s just a lot easier to throw money at things vs build them.
 

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"HAHAHHAAHA The service I've been paying for for over two years finally gave me a game worth being happy with!"

Seems like a strange flex tbh.
 
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Technically, alt-right "fans" of Tsushima started it, with some obsessed fans of LOUS II joining in. Most of the fans on either game told all of them to fuck off and explicitly state how neither game has nothing in common with each other.
I think what you had was a lot of people complaining about the last of us 2 already before ghost of tsushima was even out (so it wasn't ghost of tsushima fans complaining about it), and a lot of people liked it, but everyone was pretty much fond of ghost of tsushima, so when someone contrasted the two in this situation it spurred others into action and they started complaining about it.

This has always been a problem with anything considered geeky or nerdy at the time. Seeking validation and to be more "adult". It ain't just from people on the consumer side. Gaming Critics suffer from this just as bad, and many times even worse. Always wanting the approval of Daddy Ebert or want every game to be a movie or a 2-hour walk-a-thon. "Otherwise, how is anyone gonna take us seriously like the film industry?!", said by people claiming not be exclusive others in gaming. Stop seeking the approval of assholes who don't like nor care for us, and focus on making the community and medium better by appreciating what we got, and actual shit to improve on. Not some random yahoos who already hate or look down gaming to begin with.

I think nowadays they also attach political agendas into things too. So to some people I'm sure people shitting on Forespoken is tantamount to shitting on black female protagonists or something like that. So they want this same clout but for a different reason. They want validation for their diversity-centric game design ideas, even if the game itself sucks, just for the political influence they think this will have. Such an attitude is obviously bad for game quality going forward.

Or act like some game is a misunderstood masterpiece, when in reality it wasn't that good to start and has stripped down mechanics and a horrible try hard, "grim and gritty", tone deaf story. Yes, I am referring to you DmC (2013). Another problem with alot of these critics is that they just don't spend time on many of these games. Even the ones they do like or enjoy. They play it, and usually immediately rush to the next one. A lot of y'all are large gaming websites. Hire more people or give yourselves more time and stop giving a shit about getting the most clicks or ad revenue. You're part of the problem within the gaming industry when it comes to things like this.
Pretty much everyone hated dmc so anyone defending it is just being contrary at this point. Ninja Theory has done other stuff which is good, it's not like it's hard to praise something else.

I think they need to have more genre specialists, cause for example any review about a fighting game is gonna be trash 99% of the time, cause people who don't actually know how to play these games review them. It might feel useful if you also don't know anything about fighting games but you're being actively misinformed about a lot of factors without realizing it when you read those reviews as someone who doesn't know any better.

"HAHAHHAAHA The service I've been paying for for over two years finally gave me a game worth being happy with!"

Seems like a strange flex tbh.
Hey man, if you go from 0 to 1 that's an infinite % growth rate. You get to be infinitely happy, that's how physics works.
 
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think what you had was a lot of people complaining about the last of us 2 already before ghost of tsushima was even out (so it wasn't ghost of tsushima fans complaining about it),
It's why I had "fans" in quotations. A lot of those people propping up Tsushima didn't give a damn about the game, and were only using it as a stepping stone to hate on the Last of Us Part 2. It's the same type of racist, sexist, and anti-LBGTQ goons that were trying to pit Captain Marvel against Alita. They weren't true fans of anything. They just hated you know what that much to put anything against it.

Pretty much everyone hated dmc so anyone defending it is just being contrary at this point. Ninja Theory has done other stuff which is good, it's not like it's hard to praise something else.
Pretty much nearly all of the professional critics. Even The Escapists 2.0 is
guilty of this somewhat.


"HAHAHHAAHA The service I've been paying for for over two years finally gave me a game worth being happy with!"

Seems like a strange flex tbh.
Hope it was worth the $500 console and 2 years of auto renewing on Game Pass.
 
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Oh hey I did wonder about those odd graphical quirks, tho wasn't sure they were just something that was sacrificed for the 60fps performance mode, especially they way they worded the graphical option description with a somewhat begrudging tone that sounded like I was holding them back for wanting the higher frame rate lol.

Dead Space remake's mysterious red marker.
Dead Space developer Motive Studios is working on a fix for a varial rate shading (VRS) graphical issue present in the horror remake, primarily on PlayStation 5.

Digital Foundry's John Linneman highlighted the problem via Twitter at the weekend, and showcased how darker sections of the game's environments "basically lose most of their detail".

"The actual resolution is much higher... but VRS causes shadowed regions to basically lose most of their detail," John wrote, calling for an option to be able to disable VRS on PC as well.

Now, Motive has responded, and basically promised just that.

"The team is working on a patch that will improve the issue on PS5," an EA spokesperson wrote on the official Dead Space reddit. "This patch will also provide an option to disable VRS on PC.

"No ETA quite yet, but I'll keep you all updated. Thank you for your patience as well as your help with identifying this issue!"


Dead Space launched last Friday for PC, PS5 and Xbox Series X/S, effectively rebooting the sci-fi survival horror franchise after a decade away.

"A fine piece of craft and a sumptuous reworking of the setting, EA Motive's Dead Space remake sheds a little of the 2008 game's enchantment," Edwin wrote in Eurogamer's Dead Space remake review.
 
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Hmm. Seeing as you own the state of Florida, perhaps an explanation for Desantis and qanon there is owed, by any chance? 👀
I never said I owned it. I'm just betting it.

And if it gets lost I won't feel bad when it becomes property of Ubisoft(or whoever wins it). I'm not gonna bet something I care about.
 
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What a way to get info out there and reported on!


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Nintendo Switch indie exclusive Sports Story has been updated to remove its criticism of game development, which was hidden away within an in-game secret room.

A sequel to the beloved Golf Story, Sports Story itself featured a rocky development, and was originally due to release in 2020. It eventually arrived right at the end of last year, albeit to a lukewarm reception and launch day bugs.

The subsequent discovery by fans of an in-game room - ostensibly a game development office filled with unhappy workers - raised eyebrows at the time. Exploring the room uncovers particularly pointed barbs between co-workers relating to project delivery time, writing feedback and bug-testing.

Now, a freshly-released patch claims to have blocked access to the area - but enterprising fans have still found a way in. Inside, players have found that its dialogue has been altered, and the criticisms are no longer present.

"You might say we're experiencing a troubled development," dialogue previously featured in the secret room stated. "You might also say somebody kept requesting new features and my original vision no longer exists."


The original version of Sports Story's secret developer room, featuring its criticisms of game development.

Visit the room post-patch, and it's a different story.

"Not only are we ahead of schedule on development, we are also setting records in employee happiness," dialogue now states. "Our staff are all well-rested, well-fed, and their self-esteem is skyrocketing. I an assure you, things are very much under control here! I promise."


Sports Story developer Sidebar Games has acknowledged the secret room's existence in its latest patch notes, which claim access to the area has been removed. The developer is still to address its content directly, however, and Eurogamer has contacted Sidebar Games for comment.
I never said I owned it. I'm just betting it.

And if it gets lost I won't feel bad when it becomes property of Ubisoft(or whoever wins it). I'm not gonna bet something I care about.

Alright, alright, you're off the hook! But I will get to the source of this madness one way or another...