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Hawki

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Speaking of which, where' s A Goofy Movie in your list?
Haven't seen it. Also, I don't think I'd put it on the same list. Using Wikipedia as a guideline, I use the term "DAC" (Disney Animated Canon) to refer to animated films released by Walt Disney Animation Studios, whereas A Goofy Movie was made by Disneytoon Studios. It's why I don't list stuff like Lion King 2/Return of Jaffar on the above list for instance.

Maybe I'll do another list for that, I dunno.
 

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A Man Called Ove - (Mubi, Prime)
Heard about the recent one with Tom Hanks as the protag, and loved the sound of the premise but couldn't stand the thought of seeing Tom Hanks in that particular role: to whomever the casting director/s are, with all due respect...you were all fucking cowards, even, or especially if you were Hanks himself!

Sorry, but he's the easy way out, everyone already loves and sympathises with him after decades of his wholesome charm infecting us all (apart from qanon nutters, they got a whole other infection going on), I'm fed up of sympathising with his roles tbh, give me someone new and challenging to care about, someone truly curmudgeonly who may have to work their way gaining our trust! Trust us to be able to care about someone else! And trust yourself to be able to convince us they're worth caring about! You know, the more I think about his casting, the more I hate it, so am gonna stop thinking about it for my own peace of mind...

Anyway. Check out this floofer! The real star of the show.

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Oki, yeah it's pretty great, just the right kinda dark comedy for my tastes, and the main guy Rolf Lassgård is a far purer curmudgeon than Hanks could ever dream of being. The runtime is longer than expected, I'd imagine that's shortened for US audiences too (shit ok I'm gonna stop thinking about that remake for realises now!). Was overall quite endearing, heartwarming at times, and cat. Cat make worth life living.

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Swiss Army Man - (Prime, purchase)
Well fuck. That was way more life affirming than it had any right to be.
 

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Megan

The setup feels paper thin and very stupid, but it’s really just there to get to the ball rolling. And once it does it’s actually the most fun cautionary tale of the dangers of AI since Ex Machina. Also funnier, even without the break dancing.
 
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Babylon

Set smack in the middle of Hollywood’s purported Golden Age, it follows leads Margot Robbie and Brad Pitt through the various dysfunctional excesses of the period. There are some surprises you won’t see coming, trust me. It’s basically a 189 minute highly dramatized retrospective circle jerk of the movie industry during this era, and it took me three nights to finish because I kept falling asleep. There were moments of brash insanity that compelled me to finish it though. For its intents and purposes it will also probably win the Oscar for Best Picture, which is fine as I really couldn’t care less anyways.
 
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Finally saw Villeneuve's (first) Dune. The color palette did indeed annoy me. The ornithopters surprisingly didn't. I found the first half absolutely terrific. The second half unconvincing, I think Lynch was right to skip this whole odyssey through the desert. Also a bit disappointed by Liet's death (devoid of ecological epiphany) and by the absence of of my favorite pivotal line/moment (how does it feel to be a killer). I did also find the cast of celebrities distracting. So, all in all, quite good, but not the overwhelming masterpiece that I was expecting (before and during the film). If it had retained the first half's intensity, it might have been.
 

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Finally saw Villeneuve's (first) Dune. The color palette did indeed annoy me. The ornithopters surprisingly didn't. I found the first half absolutely terrific. The second half unconvincing, I think Lynch was right to skip this whole odyssey through the desert. Also a bit disappointed by Liet's death (devoid of ecological epiphany) and by the absence of of my favorite pivotal line/moment (how does it feel to be a killer). I did also find the cast of celebrities distracting. So, all in all, quite good, but not the overwhelming masterpiece that I was expecting (before and during the film). If it had retained the first half's intensity, it might have been.
If you find casts of celebrities distracting, then I fear 99% of film is likely elicit the same response.
 

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If you find casts of celebrities distracting, then I fear 99% of film is likely elicit the same response.
No, precisely not. Celebrities are a minor portion of actors. So 99% of blockbusters maybe, and even so, blockbusters often have actors playing their typecast characters on purpose, so, it's less distracting than being precisely the point. But there are categories of movies (big budget and small budget) that function better with relatively unknown actors. Sometimes suspension of disbelief is shattered by the presence of that-recognisable-superstar. It's the case, for me, in small cerebral ghost movies, for instance - I find them more believable when they don't feature Kevin Costner or Harrisson Ford. Films that try to take a documentary look, aswell. And, actually, films that go the opposite way, the super big self-serious epic mystical fantasy space opera. I think that George Clooney's Jesus wouldn't trigger much religious awe.

Plus, there's genre contamination. Go watch a serious Leslie Nielsen movie now. For some reason (maybe genre adjacent but tone opposed movies), Bautista and Brolin felt too much "hey, that guy from gotg/mib" to me. There are films where I like the "hi mum it's me" aspect of face recognition, and others where I like seeing a face unrelated to any other movie (or not too blatantly).

A "oh look it's that hollywood star" playing an elf in some Tolkien adaptation kinda ruins it for me. In a Star Wars or James Bond flick, not the same effect.
 
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If you find casts of celebrities distracting, then I fear 99% of film is likely elicit the same response.
He's got a point: celebrities in the wrong place can detract from a movie more than they add to it. There is potentially an issue when roles are filled by big names, where it becomes a bit like "Ooh, there's X!" rather than the viewer getting on with the film, or even the role getting on with meshing with the rest of the film.
 
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OTOH, a lot of films nowdays don't stand by themselves, they have to get people going "Hey, it's that person who was that other role in that other film" to watch them. Otherwise big names probably wouldn't be big names.
 
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Knock At The Cabin: Okay? / Great

A same-sex couple and their daughter are vacationing in a remote cabin when they are effectively taken hostage by four fanatic strangers who demand they chose one amongst themselves to sacrifice to avoid the end of days.

Not really sure why this film exists. It's basically little more than a thing that happened. Maybe I missed the "message" if there's one to be had, but I really didn't get it. It was interesting to see Batista in a role where his "sack of muscle" status wasn't at the fore.
 

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ant-man and the wasp quantumania

Finally went and saw it today. idk, My feelings are a bit mixed on this one. It's so "fine" there just isn't a lot to pick apart. I was entertained, but as with the last one, it wasn't as memorable as it could have been.

My biggest problem with the film, honestly, is the premise. They retroactively pretend that Janet has avoided talking about the microverse and is terrified of it. That really doesn't make any sense what-so-ever. She literally blipped out in infinity war while they were working on a microverse test and their logic for her not talking about it is just silly. She actually spends the first 45 some aught minutes of this, WHILE they are in the microverse, refusing to talk about what is actually going on, and literally the groan worthy "just trust me" lines are used, so common with lazy writing, this time so they can make Jonathan Majors entrance Kang more "surprising" even though he's in all the trailers. It's forced and it just kinda leaves you with more questions you wouldn't be asking if they'd been more clever with how to explain Janet not discussing any of this before.

That said, it's pretty entertaining. I really enjoyed that they made the microverse this big populated world with all these creatures. It wasn't really clear if they were saying this was all a side effect of Janet and Kang being stuck there or if they were there the whole time and we just didn't see them in ant-man and wasp. Loved the micronauts tie in. I also dug the MODOK stuff. They got him in and made it work. If toxic fans complain about the origin, fuckm MODOK is literally a joke character, get over it.

I think that's the movies biggest strength and what lets it down. If you're hoping to get a sort of guardians of the galaxy movie where you get a movie about the microverse I'm afraid this will disappoint. You do get to see lots of microverse cantina type stuff and its really cool, but the film largely focuses on Kang chasing them around. I guess it's kind of similar to Tron Legacy in that respect, where they spend very little time exploring the Tron universe and instead it's all kinda focused on Clu. Almost identical really. Kang bad, Kang army bad, explosions, everybody hugs. Would this had been better as a 3 hour epic in the microverse? I find the idea exciting at least.

There's a really lining of "marvel Fatigue" on this one. It's just very streamlined. There's a drink called "Colorado Bulldog" that's a variation on a white russian. It's vodka, coffee liqueur, cream and cola. It's weird, it's an interesting flavor even if you don't end up liking it.

Ant-man 3 is a Rum & coke. It's fine, but it's just "blah". 7/10
 

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The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea (5/10)


In what's probably not a controversial opinion, I think this film is weaker than the first. In what might be controversial, I'll say that despite that, the film does a lot of things better than the original.


To be clear, neither of the films are "good," and you can see my earlier review of the first film as to why I'm not fond of it. This one, however...what bugs me is that the film touches on a number of aspects that hint at potential character development, but never follows through on them. Maybe I'm expecting too much from a film that's meant for kids, and one that's under 90 minutes at that, but still?


Anyway, I'll get one thing out of the way first - the songs suck. Really suck. I can't remember the lyrics of a single one, only that they're all sacharine to at least some extent. I may have given Ariel flak for her life decisions in the first film, but she could at least sing, damn it.


Now with that said, I'll get to the main thoughts I have with the film, and most of them are going to center on their protagonist and antagonist.


-Melody: I'll say it, Melody is a better protagonist than Ariel. She's younger, so the decisions she makes are easier to forgive, plus, while Ariel already knew that Ursula was a seawitch in the first film, here, Melody being tricked by Morgana works much better in that a) Melody's already upset with her parents, and has good cause to be, b) Melody has never heard of Morgana, so she's going in blind, and c) Morgana's 'terms' are far more reasonable than Ursula's. Also, frankly, I find Melody's dilemma more compelling - here's a girl who, despite being human, knows that there's something 'wrong' with her, given that she can talk to aquatic life, and that everyone at court knows she's a weirdo, including kids, who don't hesitate to be cruel about it. It actually brings me to my point about what I was saying about the film never following through on character development, because there's a lot you could do here that the film doesn't go into, for whatever reason. But as a point of comparison, Ariel's actions in the first film are her pursing 'true wuv' with a man she's never even talked to, whereas Melody's character arc is finding out her true origin, who/what she really is, etc. That isn't a particuarly original character arc, but it's a more compelling one.


-Morgana: Morgana probably epitomizes wasted potential in this film. There's a certain clumsiness to her introduction, for as soon as she turns up, Sebastian exclaims "Ursula's crazy sister!" Um, yes, Ursula had a sister all this time and, what, you didn't know? You mean the first film made no mention of it? Aw, pish-posh. Also doesn't help that Morgana's goals are the same as Ursula's (get the trident, rule the Seven Seas). On a surface level, Morgana's just an Ursula knock-off. However, all that said...okay, I'll say it, Morgana is simply a more interesting version of Ursula. Not a deep character, but we learn that Morgana has always been overshadowed by Ursula, was neglected by her own mother, and there's the sense, however slight, that Morgana is trying to eclipse her sister rather than really following her own ambitions. You could even draw parallels to Melody here, in that she too feels out of place in her world, has a strained relationship with her parents, and here, finally, she's found someone who can tell her the truth. Except despite all this, Morgana at the end is "nah, I'm evil," and is defeated by being encased in ice. No redemption, no gravitas, she meets the same fate as her sister, happy ending.


There's other examples of this - for instance, Melody makes friends with a seal and penguin (what a penguin is doing in the Arctic Circle, I've no idea) who are shunned by their fellows, so again, you've got a whole 'band of misfits' going on, but again, there's no real chutzpah here. And the gravitas from the prior film is also reduced since Triton can now turn Ariel into a mermaid and back into a human within a period of 1-2 days, so again, lack of gravitas. So in the end, you have a film that raises numerous potential plot and character points, and fails (or refuses) to do anything interesting with them.


So, yeah. A letdown. Also, Sam asked me about the direct-to-video Disney films, so as short as the list is (and really, I don't have much desire to expand it), here's the rankings as they currently stand:

4) Peter Pan: Return to Neverland

3) The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea

2) Aladdin: The Return of Jaffar

1) The Lion King II: Simba’s Pride
 

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Before Sunrise, 8/10

The first of Richard Linklater's Before trilogy, it follows an unlikely pair (played by Ethan Hawke and Julie Delpy) who meet on a train and decide to spend a single night in Vienna. That's basically it, because there's essentially no plot, you're basically just observing these two go on a very long date. I can't really find much fault with this movie: it's really well written, well acted, very sweet and romantic without feeling sappy, touching, funny and very grounded and relatable. So whatever criteria for my score are entirely down to how it affected me personally. And to be honest, I found it a bit exhausting. It's a movie that's essentially all dialogue, and not fluffy dialogue either: there's long screeds about relationships, dynamics between the sexes, identity, finding your place in the world and so on. And it just feels heavy despite the fairly lean runtime of 100 minutes. I feel like this would have been more digestible for me in 2 or 3 sittings, because you're not really losing anything by chopping it up. I also found it a bit hard to watch in places due to personal experiences, but that's not a knock on the film.
I hope you get to see the 2 sequels. I think by the 3rd, while human, is very wrong in ways. But, much of the dialogue the two leads ad libbed. They really are having conversations.
If you're not already familiar with them, you should try to find movies scripted by Jean-Pierre Bacri and Agnès Jaoui.
Not heard of them, I'll take a look, thanks! EDIT: Checking out Look at Me on Tubi.
 
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Not heard of them, I'll take a look, thanks! EDIT: Checking out Look at Me on Tubi.
It's a good one. The two best ones in my opinion are Kitchen with Apartment (1993) and Family Resemblances (1996). Both are adapted from their theater play, and are very tightly packed, very powerful. Almost unbearable.

The Taste of Others (2000) is also absolutey terrific :

 
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It's a good one. The two best ones in my opinion are Kitchen with Apartment (1993) and Family Resemblances (1996). Both are adapted from their theater play, and are very tightly packed, very powerful. Almost unbearable.

The Taste of Others (2000) is also absolutey terrific :

Same guy that played the inattentive dad in "Look at Me".
That was a nice, slice of life sorta movie. I can appreciate Lolita's issues. As a dad myself, I kind of ID with the dad, just leagues not that bad. I just worry that I've not been attentive enough. Which I hope actually makes me different.

Unfortunately I'm not sophisticated enough to know most of the music in it. I think the only 1 I ID is Moonlight Sonata.
 

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Same guy that played the inattentive dad in "Look at Me".
Yes. He's Jean-Pierre Bacri. He was the husband of Agnès Jaoui (he' unfortunately deceased now), and they wrote most of these films together.

And you'll recognise Agnès Jaoui in this excerpt of another of the films they scripted, Same Old Song (1998) :


This wonderful movie is precisely all about recognizable music. It's some sort of musical comedy where all the protagonists randomly burst into songs, but all the songs are popular french hits, sung by their original artists. The actors just sing it on playback, whether the voices match or not (with no consideration of gender, age or style). But such commercial hits are sucessful for a reason : popular music is efficient at conveying widespread, universal feelings that resonate with the general public. This movie illustrates this, the playback singing scenes are always odd and funny but never ridiculous, always very true to the scene's emotions. I used to be much more snobbish about music before seeing that film, it really taught me to respect the function and quality of, well, what I used to deem "unsophisticated" music.
 
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Yes. He's Jean-Pierre Bacri. He was the husband of Agnès Jaoui (he' unfortunately deceased now), and they wrote most of these films together.

And you'll recognise Agnès Jaoui in this excerpt of another of the films they scripted, Same Old Song (1998) :


This wonderful movie is precisely all about recognizable music. It's some sort of musical comedy where all the protagonists randomly burst into songs, but all the songs are popular french hits, sung by their original artists. The actors just sing it on playback, whether the voices match or not (with no consideration of gender, age or style). But such commercial hits are sucessful for a reason : popular music is efficient at conveying widespread, universal feelings that resonate with the general public. This movie illustrates this, the playback singing scenes are always odd and funny but never ridiculous, always very true to the scene's emotions. I used to be much more snobbish about music before seeing that film, it really taught me to respect the function and quality of, well, what I used to deem "unsophisticated" music.
That was a very funny clip, thanks for sharing!
 
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Rewatched The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. Bogart and Huston give career-best performances, rich in psychologically-informed physicality. Bogart essentially plays a man slowly being corrupted by greed and paranoia, Huston is the disarmingly ironic old timer that can yippee and break into a jig. Tim Holt gets a more or less thankless role as a goody two shoes.

One of the things I like about this movie is that it makes you feel the weight of everything that slowly eats away at Bogart's morality, and you can trace his corruption scene by scene. He's a penniless bum at the beginning of the movie - you can tell he's proud and hates begging for cash, and when he gets it it's always with spite, which hurts him even more; when he finally gets a job (a physically taxing one) he gets swindled, so he gets fed up and has to use violence to get his cut (and nothing more); a bit of luck and the need to get out of dodge means he now takes bigger risks and decides to go treasure hunting. The train robbery gets his adrenaline going. The climb and search in Sierra Madre physically, emotionally exhaust him. There's a false alarm (pirite). Tempers run high. When they finally strike gold, the dude is so on edge that he puts everyone else on edge - self-fulfilling his paranoia. And he slowly starts crossing boundaries set earlier in the movie. Suddenly his spur-of-the-moment investment, which he handwaved away (he covered for his partner), demands retribution. The philosophy of "only take what you need" (exemplified in beating up the conman to collect his paycheck) slowly washes away. The mountain has a seemingly endless supply of riches. What's one more day? And another? And another?

I think Daniel Day Lewis has openly acknowledged the influence that Bogart's performance had on his Daniel Plainview. I don't know if you can make a movie about greed, or act out greed, without studying this. For that matter I don't believe for a second that Peter Jackson and Andy Serkis didn't take notes from Fred C. Dobbs for Gollum.

And on the subject of discovering weird connections, I come to find that the kid that pesters Bogie about the lottery ticket is, holy bejesus, Robert Blake.

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Nope

Yup, liked it. While its themes of racial subordination and exploitation in cinema could’ve had a bigger payoff, I think it was more used in conjunction with another major theme. I read afterward that Peele’s main aim here was to our examine the dangers of our obsession with spectacle. Piecing things together, the flashback of Gordy going ballistic, the lone survivor Jupe ultimately seeing himself as some sort of destined, prophetic figure who exposes crowds of people to untimely deaths, it’s dark stuff. Can’t really complain about the lack of catharsis when it was never meant to exist here anyways.
 
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