Discuss and Rate the Last Film You Watched
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Never say never. I remember this movie more times than I care to count. I give it a 9 in my book. I've watched way more times than Pocahontas (a movie I never cared much for to begin with, aside from the song, "Savages"), Tarzan, or Hercules. I've seen people talk about this movie fine. Maybe not "everyone", but plenty.
Watched Blade Runner 2049. I watched this in my girlfriend's condo, and while it's a good TV, its against the sun and we didn't want to have the volume too loud as to not bother the neighbors. We were also kind of behind schedule and had a thing scheduled for the night.
The point of that preface is to soften to blow, because I don't understand what the point of this movie is. I was enjoying it, I guess? Beautiful looking movie, sounded great too. There were some REALLY nice effects. But it didn't feel like anything special, and I totally understood why it bombed. I'd have have been bored out of my mind in the theater.
The ending too felt like a big wet fart. Ryan Gosling ISN'T the child?!? Okay... sucks to be him I guess. I genuinely didn't understand what the movie was trying to say. I guess, it doesn't matter if Gosling isn't the child because he made his own decisions or whatever? The slow fist fight in the shallow water was a particularly odd choice. It was probably one of the worst looking scenes in the movie too.
In the end, was hoping to like this a lot more since I enjoyed Dune. I'd welcome someone to try and explain the movie to me, genuinely.
The point of that preface is to soften to blow, because I don't understand what the point of this movie is. I was enjoying it, I guess? Beautiful looking movie, sounded great too. There were some REALLY nice effects. But it didn't feel like anything special, and I totally understood why it bombed. I'd have have been bored out of my mind in the theater.
The ending too felt like a big wet fart. Ryan Gosling ISN'T the child?!? Okay... sucks to be him I guess. I genuinely didn't understand what the movie was trying to say. I guess, it doesn't matter if Gosling isn't the child because he made his own decisions or whatever? The slow fist fight in the shallow water was a particularly odd choice. It was probably one of the worst looking scenes in the movie too.
In the end, was hoping to like this a lot more since I enjoyed Dune. I'd welcome someone to try and explain the movie to me, genuinely.
How did I log in tonight to find people with objectively wrong opinions?
No, it's that the driving threat of the finale was "we're trapped in a sinking ship" normally a pretty frightening prospect, but rendered inert by... the rest of the film? The time and effort to swim out of the boat doesn't touch on their underwater adventures to that point. Whoever wrote that, had no contact with anyone responsible for the rest of the film.
Maybe you got it, but you just didn't feel it. That's how it was for me. I was never too big a fan of the original movie either though.
I was more distracted by the fact that blue mama was ready to kill her own adoptive child to spite the bad guy, and that nobody brought this back up at the end. I mean, maybe they'll follow up on this in the sequel, but you'd think something so dark would get some adressing before the credits roll.
Spider was never Neytiri's adopted child. He spent a lot of time with Jake's family, he was never their adopted son, not to mention that Neytiri's disdain for him (outright loathing in The High Ground) is well established.
I'm not sure how that follows. The Sully kids learn how to swim/hold their breath from the Mekinaya, none of that inherently translates to getting off a boat. As in, a thing none of them sans Jake have ever been on before, that's keeled over, not to mention the intense stress. But even then, the whole reason they're able to get out is because of Lo'ak reciting the Way of Water to Jake, and Kiri's link with Pandora's biosphere.
Sure, but the rest of the Sully family - to whom he is very much a brother - didn't say anything on this either. And to us as the audience it was obviously supposed to signal how ready she was to kill someone who was practically part of her own family for revenge.
IIRC, they only had to swim through the boat in the first place because the water was on fire in the other direction when they can just swim under the fire on the top of the water surface.
Watched Indiana Jones 5. Overall, I mostly didn't mind it, and it isn't the worst Indiana Jones film to me, but it wasn't without issues. It did not need to be as long as it was, for starters, with a lot of time that just seemed to be spent on nothing but filling time. I also am not sure that, even factoring in everything that has been done in previous films, time travel fits into the Indy mythos. It just felt weird. I won't go into spoiler territory, but while they address the events in Crystal Skull, they way they did so almost made me wish they'd just pretended the movie didn't happen, because it honestly felt a bit insulting.
That all said, the biggest concern I had going into the movie, that of Harrison Ford feeling too old to do his Indy stuff, was unfounded. That man is one spry 80 year old, and nothing he does throughout the film came off as unreasonable for someone his age and fitness level. In addition, it's great to see Indy fighting Nazis again, and the action scenes, while sometimes set up to do absolutely ridiculous setpieces, were still quite enjoyable.
That all said, the biggest concern I had going into the movie, that of Harrison Ford feeling too old to do his Indy stuff, was unfounded. That man is one spry 80 year old, and nothing he does throughout the film came off as unreasonable for someone his age and fitness level. In addition, it's great to see Indy fighting Nazis again, and the action scenes, while sometimes set up to do absolutely ridiculous setpieces, were still quite enjoyable.
It’s probably not something she was going to mull over her morality on, especially after what she’d been through with her own family losses at the hands of Mr. Hoo-Rah. Also IIRC it was she who wanted to fight while Jake wanted to run and hide.
It also might be some foreshadowing of what’s to come, as the “Fire” themed sequel will apparently delve into the not-so-innocent side of the Na’vi.
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Go ahead and elaborate in my case.How did I log in tonight to find people with objectively wrong opinions?
Because I recognize this movie has its qualities.
Um, that I believe it does hold up well and the plot is good?
Sorry, since that's all you said, that's all I can respond to.
Okay, there's basically two ways that we can go about this.
One, from a canonical perspective, Spider isn't part of the Sully family, there's absolutely no way you can claim otherwise. He was born c. 2154, and was taken in by the McCoskers. Yes, he spent a lot of time beyond Hell's Gate, with Jake's kids and so on, with varying degrees of reciprocity (Kiri is close to him, Neytiri despises him, Jake's sympathetic to him, Lo'ak and Neteyam are generally cool with him), but he wasn't a family member. Certainly not before the RDA's return and the main events of 'The High Ground.' To claim that Spider is part of the family is to either ignore canon or retcon it.
Second, even if we're confining this to the film and nothing else, Spider still isn't treated as a family member. Jake refers to Spider as "inseperable from our kids," not "one of our kids." He isn't even adopted in the same way Kiri is, he's just a child who spends a lot of time with them (he isn't in the family photo either). There's no point in the film where Jake calls him "son" or any of the Sullys a "brother." Jake leaves to protect "this family," but Spider's already been captured at this point, and while Jake's clearly sympathetic, he doesn't make any effort to save Spider, since his own family takes priority. No-one even really brings up Spider after the jungle firefight, and while Kiri is clearly the most distraught, she's still one kid out of four.
As for getting to the end, well, I really don't agree. Again, there's nothing in the film to indicate Spider's a 'son' to Neytiri, and her disdain, while not as extreme as we've seen earlier, was established within the first ten minutes. It doesn't make sense for her to kill "her own son" out of revenge for Neteyam's death, it DOES make sense for her to kill Spider as Quaritch's son, and I'd argue the dialogue backs this up ("a son for a son"). Quaritch has killed her son, now she'll kill his if he doesn't play ball. You can certainly interpret the line as Neytiri has lost a son (Neteyam) and gained a son (Spider), but there's not really much in the story to support this. Neytiri never shows any affection to Spider, Spider is clearly terrified of Neytiri as he watches her slaughter the RDA's goons, and while reconciliation could occur between them in the future, it definitely doesn't occur in the second film, and I doubt it'll occur at the start of the third. After all, Spider's now alone in the company of Neytiri who hates him, an entire clan who has reason to hate him, and sooner or later, everyone will realize that Quaritch is still alive, and that he's the reason why.
I assumed you meant the old one as it feels weird to be saying the new one doesn't hold up, but then it is close to 20 years old, which totally doesn't feel that old for some reason. Casino Royale is the only Daniel Craig Bond movie I really like. The only thing that I don't recall liking about it is the bad guy is good at poker because he's good at math when knowing the math/odds in a poker game isn't really the important thing to winning, but not that big of a deal honestly.
I have agree, I felt like the movie was so focused on world building that the story is mostly vapid "elements" whos only purpose is to get us to the next set piece.
I feel like one of the things that benefited the original film is that theres no villains. The fugitives just want to be left alone. Each scene of violence is them defending themselves or lashing out in anger and frustration.
The other is thats extremely tightly filmed and straight forward. While there are slow bits its all telling the audience where its going. 2049 tries to tell several narratives with multiple central characters and its just...messy.
The worst part of the film is Jared Letos ghoulish villain and his bullshit about robots giving birth which, from an engineering perspective, is the dumbest shit ever.
All said Ill admit Ive watched probably three times between home and theater. The difference really is the setup. I have a full home theater, all the bling so 2049 ends being a guilty pleasure to have a bourbon with on nights where you just want to zone out to pretty pictures and noise.