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Why is that unusual? Prestige television - which whatever you think about Secret Invasion, that’s what it is - is expensive. And I’m sure Samuel L. Jackson isn’t doing this gratis.
Crazy how they're both DC movies that involve the financial disaster of a cinematic universe. The only difference being Green Lantern could not even start it, and The Flash ended it horribly.
Maybe James Gunn was right in essentially resetting DC film-verse (or whatever it will be called in the future), losing Henry Cavill (and both Gal Gadot and Ben Affleck?) does suck, but if it means bringing better characters, so be it.
That being said, Blue Beetle looks okay, as long as it doesn’t push any liberal agendas
The only reason he is even resetting, is because of WBD screw ups in the first place. Plus they gave him the order to reset. What's funny is that they already fixed their mistakes, it only made things worse by screwing them up again to an even worse a degree. Dropping and firing anybody with a different racial or gender background in a high position. They screwed themselves over by firing all their talent. Now that talent has gone to work for either Disney, Amazon, etc. I said it before and I said it again, but I don't have much interest in the James Gunn universe. I know he'll do great, but there's too much of a sour taste of Warner Bros backstabbing and constantly shooting themselves in the foot over nothing, but petty politics.
It's no secret I like a majority of the dceu. Are there movies I dislike there, yes, but not enough to make me rag on anybody for being a fan of films I don't like right or think are bad. I'm always saying this because there are certain ANTI-DCEU that never shut up or constantly find "flaws" with the good films. You already know which ones I'm talking about on YouTube that never shut up or go out of the way to antagonize the fan base.
Or what? The big baby conservatives on YouTube and fox are going to cry? Fuck them. I don't care what agenda it's trying to push, there are people dead set against that film for having somebody be non-white in the leading role. They're going to cry like bitches regardless. Nothing against Blue Beetle, but I almost honestly don't care. I might see it, but I'm not making any promises. I just want Aquaman 2 so I can finish this loose end.
I agree it doesn't get much coverage, but it's a constant ongoing issue in society worldwide in which multiple authorites are doing good work to try and combat. It's not being covered up by the news, it's the religious organisations, cults, modeling agencies, anything related to fame, class based societies ignoring their under/lower class members etc etc trying to cover such stuff up. It's just that kinda work isn't cinematic tense action rescue scenes, it's about focusing on the survivors being able to recover and live their own free lives of their own free will. The bad guys aren't taken down in shootouts, they're processed through extremely lengthy court cases in flawed justice systems. And this is always ongoing, like an eternal stream of suffering found in so many areas of impoverished humanity if we look close enough.
Mainstream news is very flawed in many ways, for reasons many still debate, but reporting on these crimes is like reporting on domestic abuse: where do you start when it isn't sensationalist celebrity gossip? The list of charities i shared earlier speak of transparency as an important factor, and it very much is. Yet the organisation of Tim Ballard (OUR) is quite the opposite, for no valid reason - their stated reason for secrecy is flimsy, cheesy 80s spy fiction cliché that doesn't stand up to scrutiny nor even a basic comparison to the other organisations fighting the cause. It is an important issue for sure, and that means it's equally as important to identify those trying to exploit the issue for their own ends...for yes it is a subject that conjours strong emotions for most humans, and that also makes it a verrrry useful tool for conmen.
(Apologies for the relentless swearing in previous post, I forget how aggressive they can be read when they're words online. A couple of caffeinated drinks and all the swears start popping out, tho they aren't usually aimed at anyone, am trying to be more careful with wording to avoid such understandable misinterpretation
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A flash in the pan that made Warner feel green?
Well, technically Lost Kingdom is ending it...sort of...maybe...fuck, I don't even know, and I doubt Warner/DC even knows. 0_0
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Okay, I'll bite. What's an example of a "liberal agenda" in the DCEU (or heck, DC films in general)? Because I can certainly point to certain films (Joker puts a spotlight on inequality, The Suicide Squad is a bare-bones commentary on US interventionism in Latin America), but that's barebones material.
Even accepting that as true, how's that talent doing at Disney these days? Because Disney sure as hell isn't doing well right now.
Still doing better than DC by comparison. They'll bounce back when their bottom line gets really hurt. They have no choice otherwise.
I actually agree DC films didn't have too much liberal agendas before, but that doesn't mean they are free of them;
There was that Harley Quinn Birds of Prey movie, and WW84. Even The Batman movie had that one moment throwing shade at white supremacy.
MCU used to be pretty clean of this kind of stuff, but starting around Black Panther 1 or Captain Marvel they started to throw in some weird liberal commentaries. I'm starting to see DC slowly adapting this.
Blue Beetle for example tries to make the big-corp-willing-to-do-anything-for-profit the bad guys, on top of a strong-bonded Hispanic family victimized (at least that's the way it looked in the first trailer). I am not quite familiar with Blue Beetle origin story, but in every version that I did saw his family were in no way victimized, and rather hard-working individuals. So why make them the victims now?
But I guess only time will tell, because everything about Blue Beetle besides those points look great. Superman Legacy so far looks great in casting choices too
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Iron Man 1 criticized the (American) arms industry, and Captain America 2 the Patriot Act. It did so badly, absolving America of any real blame, but not exactly a neutral stance or one conservatives are known to criticize. Unless ofcourse we define the "liberal agenda" as 'look, black people and women are indeed a thing'.
Seriously, the only agenda the MCU pushes is 'There are some serious issues in the world, but let's just do absolutely nothing about it; status quo for the win!'
People might not say it in those words, but that definition doesn't seem to be too out of place, of course.
The same people who are completely mum every other time it's by default a man directing.
He is not wrong, as there are people stupid and petty enough to respond that way.
This counts for superheroes in general, not just Marvel. The only other time I've seen a superhero try to buck the status quo and try to change the system was in Invincible, and there it was still framed as only being possible through immoral acts, deeming it not worth it in the end. It's annoying. They want to address real world issues, but hardly ever dare to put their foot down.
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Superheroes can't. The fact that they are fiction is a true hindrance. I mean, they are fictional characters in a world that we are supposed to recognise, be familiar with, relate to. And they need their popular baddies. If they were to transform the world, they would cease to inhabit "ours", they won't be next door superman on earth or friendly neighbourhood spider-man. They'd be superman on krypton, remote utopia spider-man. If they caught Dr Claw, killed the Joker, ate Gargamel, the story would end and require a reboot.
It's not an intentional message, it's an accidentally conservative one due to them being a product. Well, in addition to the general care of not alienating half the public (resumability apart, most people would be fine with such "happy ever after" world solving, if you don't get into the details, but still, stakes are usually politically muted - "corrupt" capitalists bothering the noble ones, etc).
In Wakanda Forever's defense
the one good CIA agent isn't a member of the CIA by the end of the movie