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Gordon_4

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These are all starting to blend together but I didn't think she was too different from the lady in Spy Who Loved Me. Because her revenge is unbeknownst to her against Bond she can't complete it but she's shown to constantly one-up Bond. I also think she's played by the better actress/model.

I also didn't like Bond being all sanctimonious and hypocritical about revenge, and pulling a TLoU2 at the end. He murders a helpless Blofeld in the opening to avenge Tracy from SEVERAL movies ago, and then later murders that goon in revenge of the death of the Italian ally (Ferrara) he knew for like a scene. Yet he keeps chastising Melina for wanting to avenge her parents and bullshitting about "digging two graves" for her quest when he's never shown to be conflicted or hindered in his own series of vendettas. And at the very end he prevents her from personally killing the dude, which nearly costs her life.
Bond is saying that because killing people is routine for him; he’s a wetwork operative for the British government. If he can channel some genuine drive into killing them then all the better. Melina however is not that; eventually the violence she’s doing - even though it’s against people who really deserve it - is going to catch up with her OR she’s going to get killed.

Or put more succinctly; just because Bond is being a hypocrite doesn’t make him wrong.
 

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Bond is saying that because killing people is routine for him; he’s a wetwork operative for the British government. If he can channel some genuine drive into killing them then all the better. Melina however is not that; eventually the violence she’s doing - even though it’s against people who really deserve it - is going to catch up with her OR she’s going to get killed.

Or put more succinctly; just because Bond is being a hypocrite doesn’t make him wrong.
I posit Bond's cartoonish vengeance against Blofeld at the beginning of the movie, which is decked with Loony Tunes physics and sound effects, undermines any serious message the script wants to make on the matter of digging two graves and the abyss staring back and all that. Besides Melina has already killed plenty of goons on her way to the big bad.
 
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He like plenty of things, I'm sure. He just categorically rejects adaptations of his work.
Nope. It's not meaningless because he loves "For The Man Who Has Everything" episode of Justice League Unlimited. Shows how little you know.


Also, I love this quote from one of the users in the comment section:



He thinks comic book stories prime people for fascism...
 

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I posit Bond's cartoonish vengeance against Blofeld at the beginning of the movie, which is decked with Loony Tunes physics and sound effects, undermines any serious message the script wants to make on the matter of digging two graves and the abyss staring back and all that. Besides Melina has already killed plenty of goons on her way to the big bad.
Oh the film doesn’t exactly deliver that message, assuming it had it all and Bond just isn’t being a hypocritical contrarian, very well give yes the very cartoonish death of Blofeld - seriously what stage of bargaining involves giving someone a delicatessen? - undermines the otherwise (mostly) serious tone of the movie. So like you aren’t wrong in the slightest.

Still love him kicking that car off the cliff though. And if legal issues hadn’t fucked them about, I like to think that would have been the death of Blofeld and Irma Bunt.
 

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Octopussy

I thought I wasn't going to like this one very much. Sixth Moore, dude's showing his age, Berkoff is all over the place and Adams isn't trying. I like the concept of the Octopussy character but Maud simply isn't a very good actress, and the script does nothing with the fact that Bond is yet again responsible for a tragic death in the life of tonight's Bond girl.

But you know what, so far it's the most fun one starring Roger Moore. I like the goon collection, how they're each decked with a specific weapon or motif (that buzzsaw yo-yo was badass) and the way the movie properly hypes each confrontation. I love the set-pieces and how they make the most of each location (the bazaar brawl, the train sequence, the climactic plane scene). The story is nothing amazing but benefits tremendously from being slowly puzzled together instead of spelling out from the get go what it is that the bad guys are trying to do.

Also, here Bond is usually on his own and outmatched, either trying to catch up to the bad guys or trying to escape from them. There's a craft and a desperation that I like to that. God forbid Bond behave like a spy, stealthing around and donning ridiculous Agent 47 disguises. I much prefer that kind of action to Bond leading armies of extras on base raids or merely brushing off every encounter and always being on top. I've never liked Moore too much as Bond for that reason - always comes across as smug and as if he actually buys the nonsense. Connery had an edge and a bemusement that somehow made the absurd villains and world domination plots feel much more plausible.

And this makes two movies in 1983 to play Indian cuisine for laughs and be grossed out by dishes featuring eyeballs and animal heads.
 

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Yeah, Octopussy gets weird serious in the middle, when Bond is racing after the bomb and everything is going wrong for him.

But before that he's doing Tarzan calls while being hunted on safari, and later he leads a bunch of female dancers into attacking a castle.
 

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Octopussy

I thought I wasn't going to like this one very much. Sixth Moore, dude's showing his age, Berkoff is all over the place and Adams isn't trying. I like the concept of the Octopussy character but Maud simply isn't a very good actress, and the script does nothing with the fact that Bond is yet again responsible for a tragic death in the life of tonight's Bond girl.

But you know what, so far it's the most fun one starring Roger Moore. I like the goon collection, how they're each decked with a specific weapon or motif (that buzzsaw yo-yo was badass) and the way the movie properly hypes each confrontation. I love the set-pieces and how they make the most of each location (the bazaar brawl, the train sequence, the climactic plane scene). The story is nothing amazing but benefits tremendously from being slowly puzzled together instead of spelling out from the get go what it is that the bad guys are trying to do.

Also, here Bond is usually on his own and outmatched, either trying to catch up to the bad guys or trying to escape from them. There's a craft and a desperation that I like to that. God forbid Bond behave like a spy, stealthing around and donning ridiculous Agent 47 disguises. I much prefer that kind of action to Bond leading armies of extras on base raids or merely brushing off every encounter and always being on top. I've never liked Moore too much as Bond for that reason - always comes across as smug and as if he actually buys the nonsense. Connery had an edge and a bemusement that somehow made the absurd villains and world domination plots feel much more plausible.

And this makes two movies in 1983 to play Indian cuisine for laughs and be grossed out by dishes featuring eyeballs and animal heads.
Octopussy is good fun, and Gobinda is one of the most menacing henchmen since Oddjob.

But you’re closing in on A View to a Kill. So uh, good luck with that.
 
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On Netflix. You've put this on my radar, thanks!
Yeah, Octopussy gets weird serious in the middle, when Bond is racing after the bomb and everything is going wrong for him.

But before that he's doing Tarzan calls while being hunted on safari, and later he leads a bunch of female dancers into attacking a castle.
That Tarzan call ruined the movie for me. When I discuss silliness vs humor, that is the silly example I use. He is supposedly stealthily avoiding people and yells like that? (Superman: when he catches Lois after she fell off a building after a helicopter crash and he says, "Easy miss, I've got you" and she replies, "You've got me? Who's got you!?!?" is my humor example). Silliness takes you out of the fantasy while humor amuses but is in character and makes sense in context.

Got to see "Immaculate" in the theater last night. I wasn't bored. Few jump scares. Excellent performance by Sydney Sweeney as a novice nun who has come to a convent in Italy to care for very elderly nuns in their final days. This movie appears to have been made by people who have no idea who and what Catholics are and really, really, really hates the church. While I'm a Jew, I have a lot of Catholic friends and do, on their behalf, strongly protest. But again, I wasn't bored. Sweeney does an excellent job. Really fantastic. Given the problems the movie has I cannot recommend it.
why do they kill the girl at the opening? why cut off a novice's tongue only to just let her die? Why is Sweeney losing teeth and finger nails while pregnant with a clone of Christ (think Jurassic Park). If it is a clone of Christ, why does it sound like a demon when born? Sweeney does go into labor, her water breaks. Then she decides to murder her way out of the convent. She bludgeons a nun to death with crucifix, chokes out the head priest with Rosary beads and then uses what is supposed to be one of Christ's nails to stab a guy to death. I think they were trying to tell us something. Some accidentally funny action scenes while she is in labor, has burned feet and at the end, is partially cut open for a c-section.


Hope to see "Late Night with the Devil" ASAP. Character actor that played Mad Hatter in 2008's The Dark Knight is a failing late night show host needing a hook, so he invites a demon possessed woman onto the show and much hijinks ensue.
 
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Yeah, Octopussy gets weird serious in the middle, when Bond is racing after the bomb and everything is going wrong for him.

But before that he's doing Tarzan calls while being hunted on safari, and later he leads a bunch of female dancers into attacking a castle.
Hey! They lead themselves. Bond catches up to them near the end, as he keeps doing throughout the whole movie.

The Tarzan call joins the lame series of attempts at comedy using hackneyed sound effects and musical stings, like playing The Magnificent Seven over Bond riding a horse or Jaws falling in love at first sight to Bernstein's Romeo and Juliet. Somewhere between The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker the series fully embraced its campy identity (I mean, IN SPACE is a bottom-of-the-barrel recourse). Editor/director John Glen also loves to splice in stock footage of animals "reacting" to Bond's stunts with double takes.

How fitting that the series jumped the shark with the introduction of Jaws.
 
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Men (2022) A24 film on "Plex".

Nope, Uh uh. Not going there. Not even gonna try to figure out what this movie is trying to say in its 2+ hour run time.

 

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Men (2022) A24 film on "Plex".

Nope, Uh uh. Not going there. Not even gonna try to figure out what this movie is trying to say in its 2+ hour run time.

Yeah, I gave it a watch when the trailer for Civil War came out and realized I hadn't seen Alex Garland's last movie, Men. It's a movie that's like all symbolism, which I hate as a movie should be good as what it is on the surface, then any symbolism, metaphor, allegory should be there to enhance it, not to actually make the movie.
 
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Hence why him not liking something is rather meaningless, he's the embodiment of "old man yells at cloud".
Meaningless to you. He loves that Justice League episode and I'm going to give him credit on that. You might as well stop because you're going in circles. And like I said before, I don't hate V for Vendetta, I just consider it okay. I don't blame him exactly for disliking it. He's a grown man, he can love or hate whatever he wants. I can already tell you he's not the only one who dislikes the movie adaption of V. When are the comic book fans I don't like it either. Don't waste your breath cuz, there's really nothing left on the matter to discuss.
 

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Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire 8/10

It's good.

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Went and saw this in DX. I'm glad I did, this one is pretty much all spectacle. There's a distinct feeling that the production team has finally gotten the recipe right for how to make a Kaiju movie that makes money.

This time around they dialed the human element waaaay back. There's only 5 human characters and they, at least as a group, are central to the plot. There's no subplots or weaving. No setups or anything, it's streamlined to get the audience on the train to the big fight(s). No mustache twirling villains or government subterfuge. It's all streamlined into "Bad stuff happening, Monsters unite and brawl. Humans help.". More importantly the humans are active participants in ways that make sense.

I've already done a marathon review detailing the start of the Godzilla movies as wanting to be taken seriously and their gradually transition towards spectacle, but I will say I rewatched Kong vs Godzilla recently and as much as I enjoyed the Kaiju battles I literally just fast forward past all the subplots with the kids & podcaster. I'm genuinely scratching my head to recall if they really had any purpose in the story.

I think, at the end of the day, the production at WB/legendary just lacks the skillset to make a serious Kaiju movie. That may sound damning, but what they've accomplished here is to give audiences what they've been asking for since the TOHO films in the 90s. A good kaiju battle movie. This is the kinda movie I'm happy to just watch and not get caught up in how dumb it is, or how it's failing at being clever. It's neither of those things. This is your Baconator. It knows what it is and it does it well. Also I love Rebecca Halls new haircut, very cute.

Easy recommendation, no plot spoilers required.

*on a sidenote of *whew*. Rest assured it was a minor hit at the box office and is on track to make its money back. Won't be a final outing or anything.
 

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