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The sex appeal is the center of gravity of the game. It's the sausage in a hotdog, you still need a bun(story and combat), and it would be nice to have relish(Better pull luck), onions(endgame), and a place to sell it(community support). Without Eula, Raiden, and like characters no one much less people would pull. Lootboxes for guns are nice, but the sex appeal is what drive longevity. Explain to me this, why is Destiny 2 failing but Skyrim SE isn't? One is a single-player game because one has mods including sexy mods, and the other just has guns that get deleted after a certain period, and mask on and mask off ugly characters.
Your entire approach to the medium is puerile. I thank Bast that creators exist in all artistic media with more interesting things to express.
 
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Your entire approach to the medium is puerile. I thank Bast that creators exist in all artistic media with more interesting things to express.
And then those games die, and I get to buy them for 12 dollars on Steam which is less than the price of a limited-time 5-star.
 

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And yet niche games like StarRail, Genshin, FF7REB, Stellar Blade, and Both Nier games that do appeal to how pretty the characters look are doing well. Your Mass Effects Andoremdas, Assassins Creed, and various WB games aren't.
Did you really just claim that FF7 is a niche game?

Also, did you just claim that Nier 1 sold well based on the appeal of pretty characters? The game where your party looks like this?

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The only hot character is Kaine, and she's trans/intersex (depending on translation I believe).
 
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Did you really just claim that FF7 is a niche game?

Also, did you just claim that Nier 1 sold well based on the appeal of pretty characters? The game where your party looks like this?

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The only hot character is Kaine, and she's trans/intersex (depending on translation I believe).
Are you saying trans characters can’t be hot…
 

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Are you saying trans characters can’t be hot…
You literally quoted me saying "The only hot character is Kaine."

I'm saying that people on your side of the political spectrum would consider the game woke garbage for having a trans person, and would claim that she cannot be hot due to having a penis.

Now let's get back to the topic of you claiming that Nier 1 was popular because of how pretty the characters are.
 
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And then those games die, and I get to buy them for 12 dollars on Steam which is less than the price of a limited-time 5-star.
Even from a purely sales-based, artistically-devoid perspective, this is horseshit. The list of highest sellers of all time-- and of highest selling modern releases-- is chock full of games that aren't full of tits and ass.

Honestly, this just makes me think you must be 14. This is what you think art should boil down to? Touch grass, read a book, engage with stuff beyond the level of whether it makes your dick hard.
 

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Even from a purely sales-based, artistically-devoid perspective, this is horseshit. The list of highest sellers of all time-- and of highest selling modern releases-- is chock full of games that aren't full of tits and ass.

Honestly, this just makes me think you must be 14. This is what you think art should boil down to? Touch grass, read a book, engage with stuff beyond the level of whether it makes your dick hard.
Ah yes someone from the UK with socialist healthcare lecturing me who doesn't even love social capitalism about game sales. What about revenue, installs, etc. Genshin beat GTA5 and Fortnite.

 

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You literally quoted me saying "The only hot character is Kaine."

I'm saying that people on your side of the political spectrum would consider the game woke garbage for having a trans person, and would claim that she cannot be hot due to having a penis.

Now let's get back to the topic of you claiming that Nier 1 was popular because of how pretty the characters are.
Side, we are all different people. We are not a monolith. I am straight some people may be lesbians, etc.
 

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Side, we are all different people. We are not a monolith. I am straight some people may be lesbians, etc.
Your side has decidedly fewer of the people on the "non-straight" spectrum. It may not be a monolith, but it doesn't have much in the way of branches from the core.
 

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Ah yes someone from the UK with socialist healthcare lecturing me who doesn't even love social capitalism about game sales.
What are you even blathering on about? What relevance does the NHS have to this discussion? Your approach to these discussions is so unfocused and meandering, it's often near impossible to find even a nugget of relevance.

What about revenue, installs, etc. Genshin beat GTA5 and Fortnite.
So the fuck what! You believe the only art worth a damn is the absolute most revenue-generating, and all the rest is worthless-- even if it still sells hundreds of millions? What a vapid, grey world to live in.
 

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What are you even blathering on about? What relevance does the NHS have to this discussion? Your approach to these discussions is so unfocused and meandering, it's often near impossible to find even a nugget of relevance.



So the fuck what! You believe the only art worth a damn is the absolute most revenue-generating, and all the rest is worthless-- even if it still sells hundreds of millions? What a vapid, grey world to live in.
To add to that


 

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No games shouldn't be getting more mainstream. When you appeal to everyone you appeal to no one. Look at Ubisoft for example or EA or even Activision or Take 2.
If you think "appealing to everyone" is what's wrong with these companies, I don't know what to say to you.
 

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The sex appeal is the center of gravity of the game. It's the sausage in a hotdog, you still need a bun(story and combat), and it would be nice to have relish(Better pull luck), onions(endgame), and a place to sell it(community support).
I'm sure if you squint and imagine hard enough you can somehow make out some tits and ass in Tetris and Minecraft.
 
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I'm sure if you squint and imagine hard enough you can somehow make out some tits and ass in Tetris and Minecraft.
I've been playing Factorio a lot lately and it really kills your efficiency if you insist on making conveyor belts look like dicks.
 

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The sex appeal is the center of gravity of the game. It's the sausage in a hotdog, you still need a bun(story and combat), and it would be nice to have relish(Better pull luck), onions(endgame), and a place to sell it(community support). Without Eula, Raiden, and like characters no one much less people would pull. Lootboxes for guns are nice, but the sex appeal is what drive longevity. Explain to me this, why is Destiny 2 failing but Skyrim SE isn't? One is a single-player game because one has mods including sexy mods, and the other just has guns that get deleted after a certain period, and mask on and mask off ugly characters.
I actually do play Genshin occasionally.

Yes, many characters are attractive and some of the outfits revealing. But as far as "sex appeal as center of gravity in the game", i don't agree. It is still far more subdued compared to Nikke or Raid or even Honkai let alone actual Eroge. Overall it is pretty tame in its genre. There are loads of games out there selling primarily on sex appeal and they all fail to get as popular as Genshin.

And it has many other qualities that might attract or retain users : It has proper exploration that is varied enough, it has lots of story quests and character quests highlighting the ensemble. It has good art and passable music. It is relatively stable and bug free. It doesn't rely on its users to generate content via PvP. The grinding is tolerable. It gets regularly fresh content.

As for what gets pulls ... In the first year (before they made double character banners that are harder to judge), the most popular banners by far were Venti, Klee and Raiden, of whom only Raiden might be somewhat sexually attractive, but all three had heavily figured in stories, Raiden and Venti as archons particularly prominently. (The only other archon, got fifth place). So no, story and power are probably more relevant than sex appeal for Genshin players.


Now Genshin doesn't have ugly characters. It has characters in nonrevealing outfits. It has childlike and actual child characters. But actual ugly characters are missing from this game primarily making money by selling characters.
 
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