I suppose his handlers convinced him to, because they know he'll just launch into more angry racist rambling.
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Well, no, its not that he "criticised the federal response to hurricanes", it's that he lied about the federal response to hurricanes in order to smear migrants and political opponents. Lying & smearing =/ legitimate criticism.
Can't have a prison system if you can't compel convicts to do things against their will. Otherwise it's less imprisonment and more asking nicely.
As opposed to compelling citizens into military service which isn't an exception in the 13th because the courts simply defined conscription to just not be involuntary servitude. Hell, there were some women who opposed women's suffrage on ground that if they were made equal on that they might also lose protection from things like conscription in the name of equality.
You can absolutely have a prison system without forced labour. Hundreds of countries manage it. Confinement isn't labour.
In the strictest sense, you cannot have a prison system without being able to compel prisoners to do things. The line for involuntary servitude isn't the mark at which you are extracting economic value.
Unrelated, my fucking state: https://wchstv.com/news/local/house...cognize-an-illegitimate-presidential-election
Of course the bitches go to any lengths to overthrow democracy and protect their wannabe God-biatch king.
This is a bit facile, to be perfectly honest; like arguing that school is comparable to slavery because we compel kids to attend. A rational sense of perspective should be enough to know the difference.
This isn't disinterest, it's politics.
People will look upon devastated towns and unhappy citizens and it adds to a perception of the country to wrack and ruin. If people perceive things aren't going well, it's usually the guy at the top that gets the blame. So the longer it takes aid to arrive, and the more the cameras are focusing on unhappy people, the better it is for the Republicans. Even if they're the ones refusing to open the purse strings.
It's generous of you to ascribe even a minimally complex level of nuance to political machinations when we've arrived, as a country, to a point where you can casually plant a seed of the weed of ignorance only to watch it flourish into a mighty tree of stupidity with little-to-no effort. Just saying, "doing nothing" is pretty much all the "Right" has to do, because there are so many inbred pawns willing to pick up the ball and run with it (in the wrong direction, mind you) with little to no goading necessary from their leaders.
(Yes, this is farce, but scary how not far from actuality it really is.)
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Oh fun, a bunch of wealthy super right wing christian nationalists trying to fuck everything up.
www.propublica.org
Inside Ziklag, the Secret Organization of Wealthy Christians Trying to Sway the Election and Change the Country
The little-known charity is backed by famous conservative donors, including the families behind Hobby Lobby and Uline. It’s spending millions to make a big political push for this election — but it may be violating the law.
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maybe Schadrach is on to something. When a police officer compels someone to do something, that constitutes involuntary servitude. And since these compulsions tend to come prior to any hearing by a court, they are presumably not punishments for a crime of which someone has been duly convicted. So the police, by the 13th amendment as written, are disallowed from compelling any action by any person unless and until that particular compulsion has been directed by a court as the result of a criminal trial of the one being compelled.
Anyway, abolish cops.
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I'm upset that Trump is doing the blaming when every democrat and republican official in the affected states have confirmed that they are getting all of the necessary aid that they have requested.
North Carolina Republican pushes back on hurricane misinformation: "Nobody can control the weather"
Rep. Chuck Edwards debunked some of misleading information spread by former President Donald Trump and others.
www.cbsnews.com
Trump’s False Claims About the Federal Response to Hurricane Helene
The former president falsely accused the Biden administration of spending disaster funding on migrants, neglecting areas that had voted for Republicans and ignoring a call from a Republican governor.
Meanwhile this was the the response to a hurricane under the Trump administration:
Investigating Trump's Failed Response to Hurricanes in Puerto Rico - American Oversight
“If the Trump administration were deliberately choking off relief funds to Puerto Rico, there’s going to be a paper trail, and we’re going to expose the truth.”
americanoversight.org
And this was his response to California wildfires:
Aides Say Trump Resisted Sending Federal Funds After California Wildfires
He changed his mind after being shown data that his supporters in the state had been affected, the former officials said. One called his approach “red states vs. blue states.”
Those are the things that make Trump rotten beyond redemption.
Please please please please please please please let this be a moment of revelation for you. Everything you posted is just the same things twice.I'm upset that Trump is doing the blaming when every democrat and republican official in the affected states have confirmed that they are getting all of the necessary aid that they have requested.
North Carolina Republican pushes back on hurricane misinformation: "Nobody can control the weather"
Rep. Chuck Edwards debunked some of misleading information spread by former President Donald Trump and others.
Trump’s False Claims About the Federal Response to Hurricane Helene
The former president falsely accused the Biden administration of spending disaster funding on migrants, neglecting areas that had voted for Republicans and ignoring a call from a Republican governor.www.nytimes.com
Meanwhile this was the the response to a hurricane under the Trump administration:
Investigating Trump's Failed Response to Hurricanes in Puerto Rico - American Oversight
“If the Trump administration were deliberately choking off relief funds to Puerto Rico, there’s going to be a paper trail, and we’re going to expose the truth.”
And this was his response to California wildfires:
Aides Say Trump Resisted Sending Federal Funds After California Wildfires
He changed his mind after being shown data that his supporters in the state had been affected, the former officials said. One called his approach “red states vs. blue states.”
Those are the things that make Trump rotten beyond redemption.
You despise Trump (in this moment) for spreading the idea that the Biden Administration is fumbling the hurricane response, suggesting they're unhelpful or even corruptly redirecting funds away from the efforts. And then you post claims about the Trump Administration being unhelpful or even corruptly redirecting funds away from disaster relief efforts, published by Democratic Party aligned organizations citing anonymous sources.
Donald Trump is a mirror held up to the Democratic Party. You despise him because he does the same things they do, but with an (R) next to his name. Trump says the Biden Administration is refusing to help Republican areas. Harris says Ron DeSantis refused her calls, because he's "selfish" and prioritizing "political gamesmanship" over helping people. Ron DeSantis says he talked to Biden, and is grateful that everything needed is being approved, and he will not hesitate to reach out should more be needed. Can you not see that Harris is doing exactly the same things that Trump is? Can you not see that posting rumors about Trump you saw on the internet is the same personal behavior as Trump spreading claims he heard on tv?
Probably either some whataboutism, or an unconvincing argument for why the lies are OK.
Jesus christ you're sick beyond redemption.
You're really going to "bOtH sIdES!" these fucking evil lies as if they're equivalent things? FUCK YOU!
(Most of what you think is true about America is lies and slander)
I see you've picked the "if I yell louder, I can't hear it" option.
If you'd like to be a reasonable person for a moment, I want you to consider this: no politician (not even Trump) stands to gain by mishandling a hurricane on purpose. Sometimes, responses are less than optimal, but people aren't perfect so that's to be expected. Nobody is doing it on purpose. So every time you've ever heard it suggested that a politician is neglecting a disaster on purpose, whether it's "Biden doesn't help Republican areas" or "George Bush hates black people", it's a baseless smear.
You spread baseless smears. You allow them to get you riled up. You are just like the person who hears Trump say "Biden is neglecting hurricane victims" and goes to tell your friends about it, fully confident it's the truth without any further consideration. You just trust the opposing team instead.
If they're lies he likes, sure! Remember, you're talking to the guy who said "proof is an unreasonable demand".