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Seanchaidh

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Except the explicit statements of the Stein campaign, and the truckloads of money the Republicans have put into her. A little more substantial than a tweet.
Rania Khalek is a journalist who was talking to voters, which is also a little more substantial than "a tweet". And way more substantial than the lies and half-truths you just mentioned.
 
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Nothing says "You're irrelevant" like having to cheat to keep people from voting. Talk about election interference.
I mean, they're constantly suing to keep Green off the ballot. Anyone who claims Democrats as "The Party of Democracy" is just lying to themselves because nothing says Democracy like "You're only allowed to vote for us"...

Though I suppose we don't know 100% who did this but Republicans have never cared about The Green Party so I don't see why they would have been the ones to do this...
 

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I mean, they're constantly suing to keep Green off the ballot. Anyone who claims Democrats as "The Party of Democracy" is just lying to themselves because nothing says Democracy like "You're only allowed to vote for us"...

Though I suppose we don't know 100% who did this but Republicans have never cared about The Green Party so I don't see why they would have been the ones to do this...
And being fair, it could be some random troll. I mean, most likely it's some democrat partisan, but hopefully there will be an investigation into it.
 

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By voting. For Stein.
...for fucks sake...



No, I mean, how would Stein winning mean the end of the genocide? Hell, screw just Stein winning, say the Green Party fucking sweeps the election and win every single race they're running in, how are they going to be able to do anything at all with minorities in both the House and Senate against both the Republicans and Democrats?
 

crimson5pheonix

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...for fucks sake...



No, I mean, how would Stein winning mean the end of the genocide? Hell, screw just Stein winning, say the Green Party fucking sweeps the election and win every single race they're running in, how are they going to be able to do anything at all with minorities in both the House and Senate against both the Republicans and Democrats?
You know what, sorry, I'm more used to the "how is Stein going to win" question, that's my bad.

The president is the commander in chief of the armed forces, withdrawing support from Israel and directing the military to stop sending weapons is absolutely in the president's power.
 
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You know what, sorry, I'm more used to the "how is Stein going to win" question, that's my bad.

The president is the commander in chief of the armed forces, withdrawing support from Israel and directing the military to stop sending weapons is absolutely in the president's power.
How would the president prevent contractors or corporations from sending weapons?
And even disregarding that, how would the president prevent Israel using whatever stockpiles it might have, or might buy elsewhere, to destroy Gaza?
 

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How would the president prevent contractors or corporations from sending weapons?
And even disregarding that, how would the president prevent Israel using whatever stockpiles it might have, or might buy elsewhere, to destroy Gaza?
The president can't do that, but it's very clear this genocide is only happening with the support of the US, and without the US's support they wouldn't be able to realistically continue it.
 
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How would the president prevent contractors or corporations from sending weapons?
And even disregarding that, how would the president prevent Israel using whatever stockpiles it might have, or might buy elsewhere, to destroy Gaza?
israel is a small country with a rather moribund economy at the moment. they are reliant on the US buying them the weapons.
 
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or they let "The Parliamentarian" stop them, a position that we all knew even existed before they popped up to knock out the $15 minimum wage
Not our fault you didn't know there was someone whose purpose is to decide on and enforce procedural rules. Bet before Trump you didn't know the Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives was a thing that existed either.

Either way there's no way the results will be in before 2-3 days go by.
I wonder if we'll get simultaneous protests demanding that the vote counting be stopped in some states and continued in others, depending on who is currently in the lead there again?
 

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(great points aside from "only the Trotskyist movement..." which is a bit silly)

Not our fault you didn't know there was someone whose purpose is to decide on and enforce procedural rules.
they literally have no authority and can be ignored by the president of the Senate at will. their position is not outlined (or mentioned) in the Constitution either. using them as an excuse not to pass your agenda is pathetic.
 
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