US 2024 Presidential Election

[hanselthecaretaker2]

Like I said, enjoy the increase of infant deaths, women dying in labor, and teen suicides. God loves you for thinking they deserved it.

Fact check: Walz makes false claims about Trump on abortion and the economy | CNN Politics

Democratic vice presidential nominee Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota, made false claims Sunday about former President Donald Trump’s stance on abortion and about the state of the economy when Trump left office.

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The above exceptional cases would have a snowball’s chance in hell of being banned, regardless of who’s in office. For the vast majority, that’s where bc should be available to all sexually active women of fertile age. The hysteria injected into every election cycle should be taken with a huge grain of salt, because it’s clearly designed to rile people up one way or another and pick sides.

That said, it’s not unreasonable to have a limit on what could essentially be considered recreational non-life-threatening abortions, from both a federal/state funding and moral standpoint.

 

[Samtemdo8]

The Sensational Person won. And the world loves a sensation.

 

[BrawlMan]

I'm not giving up and I will keep fighting. I'm not gonna do this argument back on fourth of what harris or biden should have and shouldn't have done.

I am more than aware, of Trump's number being the same as that was in 2020. I am more than aware of why the Democratic drop happened (I was against Biden stepping down in the first place because of the hypocrisy). I'm fighting, my friends are fighting, and my family keep fighting because nobody will fight for us. I'd rather do that than waste time pinning blame on whoever when the actual culprit is still causing shit and does not care about anybody but themselves. The same assholes hat tried to throw a coup, failed, and then act like he didn't do anything wrong. The same assholes that claims that he'll stop a war, but he'll continue with just like any of the other parties. Once those 4 years are up, I'm wondering if all those in the Arab American and Muslim community are gonna swap back when they don't get the thing they were promised or just body hop to the Green party. For their sake, I at least hope they jump on the green party at least, if they don't get the things they want with Gaza.

Just remember those chose Trump or thought it would be funny, pick him: You screwed yourselves and everybody else over. I don't wanna hear you blaming all democrats and democratic voters. I don't wanna hear crap about you blaming anybody with left or liberal views.

You people voted for a man that knew about the virus and did nothing until it blew up in everybody's faces. You voted for a man that did nothing to help with the near four year quarantine. The man that was more than happy to encourage lies and disinformation about the virus. The man that is more then happy you to suck the dick of Putin, despite calling yourselves and claiming him to be "true patriots". At some point you will be his victim regardless, if you're too stupid enough to figure it out or not. The question is way and does it affect somebody you actually care about or just yourselves.

 

[gorfias]

Some right wingers act smarmy or offended about that one....despite Trump not having given a concession speech at all when he lost and still hasn't even admitted that he indeed lost. Its so hypocritical.

I was writing of my concern that is now apparently un-founded: I still don't know why the counting appears to have stopped. I thought she didn't concede for the same reason Trump didn't: they intended further action. I thought she had a path forward but am assured, it is over.
@crimson5pheonix did set me straight about Trump not picking up votes. It is interesting that it does appear the votes he did get appear to be comprised of different demographics than 2016 and 2020.

 

[Casual Shinji]

And this is why your party will keep losing until they figure out that being less shit than Republicans isn't enough for much of the country. Whether you think it's fair or right or whatever word you want to use doesn't really matter. "I'm THE LESSER EVIL" is still Evil, especially this go around when they decided that Genocide gets to be on the "Lesser Evil" side. The average voter needs reasons to vote for you, not reasons to not vote for the opponent.

The continued support for genocide is on both sides, both the lesser and the worse. And if I had my way I'd have Harris (Biden) stop the entire apartheid state of Israel and still lose to Trump. That way we'd at least get something out of this. Now we get nothing except a continuing of this genocide plus all the things Trump will bring to the table. And both the reason to vote for Democrates, and to vote against Republicans are the same; one is going to push the country into total fascism (ontop of gladly supporting the palestinian genocide also), and the other is the only fucking choice left (and the easier one to fight back against).

The Democrates aren't my party. But I will most certainly not blame them or Harris for Trump getting the popular vote. That blame will squarely go to Trump voters. I'm not going to view these people as some amorphous blob without a mind of its own. They're all human beings with a working brain capable of rational thought, and them STILL voting for Trump after everything is not the Democrates fault. If you have numbers on the ones abstaining due to the Democrates support of the palestinian genocide being enough to have pushed Harris past Trump I'd love to see it, but I doubt that would've been enough.

The Democrates suck, and they're not making themselves popular with their support of Israel, but to say this pushed people to the Republican Party, no. That's ultimately on these people knowingly supporting a fascist, not on Democrates not being in touch with them.

That said, it’s not unreasonable to have a limit on what could essentially be considered recreational non-life-threatening abortions, from both a federal/state funding and moral standpoint.

Yes it very much is unreasonable. You can fuck off with this statement right away. Is this some new pivot for you or something, because this has the conservative stink of 'women can't make these decisions' all over it.

 

[BrawlMan]

That's ultimately on these people knowingly supporting a fascist, not on Democrates not being in touch with them.

Yes it very much is unreasonable. You can fuck off with this statement right away. Is this some new pivot for you or something, because this has the conservative stink of 'women can't make these decisions' all over it.

TRUTH.

 

[Hades]

I think the phrase ''I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed'' sums up my view of this election right now.

 

[dreng3]

I'm getting strong "When someone tells you who they are, believe them" vibes from this election. The american voter has told everyone who they are, now we'd better believe that they are every bit as vile as the man they elected their leader.

 

[Bedinsis]

I'm fighting, my friends are fighting and my family keep fighting because nobody will fight for us.

What do you mean by this? Are you out doing community work, encouraging people to vote, provide information about trans health care, protecting people against racists, or...?

 

[BrawlMan]

What do you mean by this? Are you out doing community work, encouraging people to vote, provide information about trans health care, protecting people against racists, or...?

Whatever I can. You already know me enough by this point. I'm not gonna sit here and lie down. You eithers sit around and do nothing or do something. The choice is yours.

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[Trunkage]

The continued support for genocide is on both sides, both the lesser and the worse. And if I had my way I'd have Harris (Biden) stop the entire apartheid state of Israel and still lose to Trump. That way we'd at least get something out of this. Now we get nothing except a continuing of this genocide plus all the things Trump will bring to the table. And both the reason to vote for Democrates, and to vote against Republicans are the same; one is going to push the country into total fascism (ontop of gladly supporting the palestinian genocide also), and the other is the only fucking choice left (and the easier one to fight back against).

The Democrates aren't my party. But I will most certainly not blame them or Harris for Trump getting the popular vote. That blame will squarely go to Trump voters. I'm not going to view these people as some amorphous blob without a mind of its own. They're all human beings with a working brain capable of rational thought, and them STILL voting for Trump after everything is not the Democrates fault. If you have numbers on the ones abstaining due to the Democrates support of the palestinian genocide being enough to have pushed Harris past Trump I'd love to see it, but I doubt that would've been enough.

The Democrates suck, and they're not making themselves popular with their support of Israel, but to say this pushed people to the Republican Party, no. That's ultimately on these people knowingly supporting a fascist, not on Democrates not being in touch with them.

I probably wouldn't. Tippy pretends that if he doesn't vote, and encourages others to not vote, for something then he's has a clear conscious. We will be back here in four years, him complaining about the evilness of everyone else and not realizing how much he made that evilness happen.

How do I know? He has done the EXACT same thing for the last 2 election cycles. This exact genocide happened because of his stance in 2016. Trump got in, backed Israel and encouraged them on this path. And now Tippy gets to blame everyone else except himself. He stuck people on the tracks and thinks he just blame everyone else

Happy fucking trolly day. Can't wait for 2028

 

[Chimpzy]

I'm reminded of something a bloke called de Maistre once said: "Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite"

 

[Casual Shinji]

I do at least now get to watch the Great America fall. That'll be something interesting at least. Wish it hadn't come to this, but I'll take what little pleasure I can from this fresh new hellscape.

 

[Seanchaidh]

I probably wouldn't. Tippy pretends that if he doesn't vote, and encourages others to not vote, for something then he's has a clear conscious. We will be back here in four years, him complaining about the evilness of everyone else and not realizing how much he made that evilness happen.

Democrats are evil. Republicans are evil. The only way to make that evilness not happen is to not vote for either of them!

 

[tippy2k2]

I probably wouldn't. Tippy pretends that if he doesn't vote, and encourages others to not vote, for something then he's has a clear conscious. We will be back here in four years, him complaining about the evilness of everyone else and not realizing how much he made that evilness happen.

How do I know? He has done the EXACT same thing for the last 2 election cycles. This exact genocide happened because of his stance in 2016. Trump got in, backed Israel and encouraged them on this path. And now Tippy gets to blame everyone else except himself. He stuck people on the tracks and thinks he just blame everyone else

Happy fucking trolly day. Can't wait for 2028

I did vote. I voted for the party that didn't have anyone tied to the tracks. Harris should have dropped out as she couldn't win (as we have seen today). All she did was steal votes from the Not-Genocide Party.

 

[Hades]

Democrats are evil. Republicans are evil. The only way to make that evilness not happen is to not vote for either of them!

How does that work? People didn't vote for the Democrat and the evil still happened. The...bigger evil you might even say.

 

[BrawlMan]

I do at least now get to watch the Great America fall. That'll be something interesting at least. Wish it hadn't come to this, but I'll take what little pleasure I can from this fresh new hellscape.

I'll be dealing with this hellscape, so I don't take pleasure in it.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I'll be dealing with this hellscape, so I don't take pleasure in it.

Just grasping at staws here. Over here in Europe leaders aren't shaking in their boots for nothing over this. If Trump let's Putin run free, or worse helps him out, we here in the Netherlands certainly are fucked.

 

[tippy2k2]

Oh fuck off Bernie. Finding your balls AFTER the election is such a chickenshit move.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

In fairness, Bernie Sanders by himself has been a more effective 3rd party on a federal level than the Green Party under Jill Stein