Discuss and Rate the Last Thing You Watched (non-movies)

[Casual Shinji]

2D animation isn't always cheaper (if anything I think it's supposed to be more expensive) but there were a bunch of montages that were essentially just animated slideshows. Very stylish and well done animated slideshows, but slideshows nonetheless. I'm pretty sure most of the time making a static image in 2D is a lot cheaper than making a static image in 3D.

Again, not saying it detracts from the show, but I do think it's a noticeable difference from the first season.

Also I do think they never mentioned shield guys name out loud, maybe in subtitles. I laughed out loud when they revealed he was an enforcer as well. I just assumed he's a name character in LoL or something.

Something tells me there was more story they wanted to tell then they were given the time and money for. Apparently one season costs like 200 million. This is supposed to be the final season and we just found out Mel is the super baby love child Embessa had with one of the Black Rose three episodes before the end. Not to mention Jayce, Ekko, and Heimerdinger. Probably the reason we got a lot of montages and music video-esque sequences this time around, and why certain characters new to Season 2 have disappeared pretty heavily into the background.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Something tells me there was more story they wanted to tell then they were given the time and money for. Apparently one season costs like 200 million. This is supposed to be the final season and we just found out Mel is the super baby love child Embessa had with one of the Black Rose three episodes before the end. Not to mention Jayce, Ekko, and Heimerdinger. Probably the reason we got a lot of montages and music video-esque sequences this time around, and why certain characters new to Season 2 have disappeared pretty heavily into the background.

I think the showrunner did mention that they wanted to end on a good note rather than dragging it out and making the quality suffer, which would be par for the course for Netflix. Which is why I said I'd rather get these money-saving sequences done well than see Arcane not be gorgeously animated.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I think the showrunner did mention that they wanted to end on a good note rather than dragging it out and making the quality suffer, which would be par for the course for Netflix. Which is why I said I'd rather get these money-saving sequences done well than see Arcane not be gorgeously animated.

I'd say it works out well with how all over the place this world itself is. It kinda just feels like the 'cool stufff' universe. And while the show does a good enough job fleshing it out, the fact is that you have classic fantasy elements with punk, BDSM, and metal aesthetics around the next corner. The show not lingering too long on this mishmash probably works in its favour.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

Also caught up with Arcane. That show is still great for two simple reasons:

1- Style. That opening montage in one episode of Jinx becoming this folk punk hero was the coolest freaking piece of media of 2024.
2- Jinx and Vi. Keeping the focus on those two makes everything else work.

Because the down side of the show is whenever neither of them are around I kind of don't care? Especially all the magic stuff, and yes it's literally the name of the show so I'm supposed to care more about the weirdos playing with magic and creating mutants but I don't really.

IIRC they said this was going to be the end of Arcane but that they'll instead make new stuff set in the LoL world? Should be interesting and of course they've earned my attention but to keep it any show will have to have a personal/character hook like these sisters.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Watching Guillermo del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities. It's neat! First three episodes have been really good. Solid roster of writers, directors, actors. Production value through the roof. It's nice seeing a Netflix production that has its own distinct style instead of the samey bland catalogue look.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Watched the first episode of Cross.

Chuck it on to the pile of dad thrillers (Jack Ryan, Reacher, The Terminal List), right across the mom thriller pile (The Undoing, Little Fires Everywhere) but next to the pile of wine aunt thrillers (White Lotus, Nine Perfect Strangers, The Perfect Couple).

Which is to say that 20 years ago this would've been an unremarkable 2 hour movie, but today it takes 8 hours to get to the same place.

Cross isn't adapting any particular Patterson book, I think. It wants to be Silence of the Lambs or at least one of those dime a dozen Nordic serial killer yarns ("I gave you all the clues, Mr. Policeman"); nominally it plays more like CSI DC.

It's two cases at once: the cold case of Alex's wife (killed 1 minute 38 seconds into the first episode) and the slaying of a BLM activist, which fans the outcry to defund the police. As a sign of good faith every single cop in the show is either black or a lady, and the one white dude is of course the killer.

I don't remember much being made about cops or race in the Morgan Freeman movies.

 

[Casual Shinji]

So, Arcane is over, and the end was rather typical unfortunately. Big climatic battle, where every character is involved, some twists and turns and last minute saves in the face of defeat. And ofcourse the ones who didn't make it. It wasn't bad, but nothing truly stood out. Jinx sacrificing herself felt incredibly forced, where even the scene preceeding it wasn't set up for it but then it happened anyway because. It felt cheap and easy. Similar to how Maddie was revealed to be a traitor all along, just so her dalliance with Caitlin with the return of Vi didn't need to be followed up on. So eh... it felt rushed but it didn't necessarily ruin anything or any character, it got to the finish line in the best shape it could with the time that it was afforded.

That scene in Episode 8 though...

 

[Bob_McMillan]

So, Arcane is over, and the end was rather typical unfortunately. Big climatic battle, where every character is involved, some twists and turns and last minute saves in the face of defeat. And ofcourse the ones who didn't make it. It wasn't bad, but nothing truly stood out. Jinx sacrificing herself felt incredibly forced, where even the scene preceeding it wasn't set up for it but then it happened anyway because. It felt cheap and easy. Similar to how Maddie was revealed to be a traitor all along, just so her dalliance with Caitlin with the return of Vi didn't need to be followed up on. So eh... it felt rushed but it didn't necessarily ruin anything or any character, it got to the finish line in the best shape it could with the time that it was afforded.

That scene in Episode 8 though...

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Loved this season, but yeah. Rushed. It did honestly kinda give the vibes that the creators didn't want to keep doing this, which is valid, but I am left wanting more.

 

[gorfias]

Cobra Kai Season 6 Part 2 Netflix

How to grade this!?!?

First 1/2 of Season 6 was not good. It looked like the series over-stayed its welcome by a season. Then part 2 dropped. I guess they made good use of the interim as the writing vastly improved. Episodes were more interesting and exciting. Then S6E10 fell off a cliff. And for a series finale? Tells us one more episode is to drop!!!! So, 11 episodes.

I shouldn't be surprised. These shows must cost near nothing to film and are top rated among new streaming content.

I'll watch the final episode.


Oh dear. My bad. There will be a S6E15. They just can't let it go!!

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[BrawlMan]

So, Arcane is over, and the end was rather typical unfortunately. Big climatic battle, where every character is involved, some twists and turns and last minute saves in the face of defeat. And ofcourse the ones who didn't make it. It wasn't bad, but nothing truly stood out. Jinx sacrificing herself felt incredibly forced, where even the scene preceeding it wasn't set up for it but then it happened anyway because. It felt cheap and easy. Similar to how Maddie was revealed to be a traitor all along, just so her dalliance with Caitlin with the return of Vi didn't need to be followed up on. So eh... it felt rushed but it didn't necessarily ruin anything or any character, it got to the finish line in the best shape it could with the time that it was afforded.

That scene in Episode 8 though...

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Loved this season, but yeah. Rushed. It did honestly kinda give the vibes that the creators didn't want to keep doing this, which is valid, but I am left wanting more.

Love this Season of Arcane! There are no bad episodes in this entire season for me!

 

[Casual Shinji]

The more I think about Arcane Season 2 the more I'm annoyed by some of the things that happened.

Spoiler

I don't like how Ambessa's motivation for banishing Mel was retconned. In Season 1 it was very simple but also very poignant; Mel weakened her by being empathatic. It was a very telling moment for Ambessa and made us peak behind her warrior exterior. But now in Season 2 it's really just because Mel was a secret love child she didn't want her enemy to find.

Also, why did Jayce kill Victor in Episode 6? Before Episode 7 we're under the assumption that Jayce must've experienced something so traumatic in an alternate future that he felt killing Victor - the person he loves the most - was an absolute must. But then nothing in Episode 7 really shows that. Sure, he sees Piltover completely melted into a hellscape, but nothing implies Victor was behind that, and at the end of Episode 9 we find out it was future Victor was the one who sent him back, implying he's the one who told Jayce to do it. Why? So Singed could rebuild him into evil overlord guy who could then be defeated and turned back into Victor, so he and Jayce could hug in the magic universe and disappear?

This season is also too in love with Silco. More than that it's too eager to service the fans love for Silco. But Silco is a bad guy. He's a bad guy who still has some humanity in him, but he is a scheming, murdering, child-threatening, drug dealing, manipulating piece of shit. And he truly did care for Jinx, sure, but the way he raised her was obviously very questionable. Also, remember when he broke into Marcus' child's room with a bunch of his goons to hang out with her when Marcus was away? Yeah, fucking creepy shit. But Season 2 for some reason really wanted to clean up his image due to him being a fan favourite. Yes, one is before his falling out with Vander, and the other is in the super mega happy timeline where he forgave Vander, but each one feels there to get a happy squirm response from the audience.

I did really like how Ekko got his due in the final act though. Episode 7 was pretty wonderful and his last man standing sequence during the climax was fucking awesome. Also, him trying to talk Jinx down was very touching. Wish we could've spent more time on that.

Vi though really kinda fucks up in the final act. Her trying to save (?) Metal Warwick in the post-fight was incredibly stupid and unnecessary. Yes, I know it was Vander, but we did that already in Act 2, and that tragic outcome really didn't need to be revisited. Especially since Metal Warwick was giving zero signs Vander could still be in there. It all felt like a contrived set-up for Jinx to take the hit and sacrifice herself. Now I know that Jinx is probably not dead, and apparently the very final shot of the airship is supposed to be a callback to the first episode of Season 1 where she says that one day she's going to ride one, implying she's on that ship. But the outcome narratively is the same; we don't get any closure on her arc. And a major part of that arc is her relationship with her sister. They don't even get a final moment in the last episode - to talk, to hug, anything. And sometimes two characters getting seperated like that can work, but this is the finale and these two are the heart of the show. They should've really gotten the closing moment, and not giving them that feels like a big letdown.

Also, that sex scene in Episode 8 is cool 'n all, but in that moment Vi chooses to jump Catlin's bones instead of searching for her suicidal sister. Kinda puts a damper in that steamy moment, huh?

 

[Bob_McMillan]

The more I think about Arcane Season 2 the more I'm annoyed by some of the things that happened.

Spoiler

I don't like how Ambessa's motivation for banishing Mel was retconned. In Season 1 it was very simple but also very poignant; Mel weakened her by being empathatic. It was a very telling moment for Ambessa and made us peak behind her warrior exterior. But now in Season 2 it's really just because Mel was a secret love child she didn't want her enemy to find.

Also, why did Jayce kill Victor in Episode 6? Before Episode 7 we're under the assumption that Jayce must've experienced something so traumatic in an alternate future that he felt killing Victor - the person he loves the most - was an absolute must. But then nothing in Episode 7 really shows that. Sure, he sees Piltover completely melted into a hellscape, but nothing implies Victor was behind that, and at the end of Episode 9 we find out it was future Victor was the one who sent him back, implying he's the one who told Jayce to do it. Why? So Singed could rebuild him into evil overlord guy who could then be defeated and turned back into Victor, so he and Jayce could hug in the magic universe and disappear?

This season is also too in love with Silco. More than that it's too eager to service the fans love for Silco. But Silco is a bad guy. He's a bad guy who still has some humanity in him, but he is a scheming, murdering, child-threatening, drug dealing, manipulating piece of shit. And he truly did care for Jinx, sure, but the way he raised her was obviously very questionable. Also, remember when he broke into Marcus' child's room with a bunch of his goons to hang out with her when Marcus was away? Yeah, fucking creepy shit. But Season 2 for some reason really wanted to clean up his image due to him being a fan favourite. Yes, one is before his falling out with Vander, and the other is in the super mega happy timeline where he forgave Vander, but each one feels there to get a happy squirm response from the audience.

I did really like how Ekko got his due in the final act though. Episode 7 was pretty wonderful and his last man standing sequence during the climax was fucking awesome. Also, him trying to talk Jinx down was very touching. Wish we could've spent more time on that.

Vi though really kinda fucks up in the final act. Her trying to save (?) Metal Warwick in the post-fight was incredibly stupid and unnecessary. Yes, I know it was Vander, but we did that already in Act 2, and that tragic outcome really didn't need to be revisited. Especially since Metal Warwick was giving zero signs Vander could still be in there. It all felt like a contrived set-up for Jinx to take the hit and sacrifice herself. Now I know that Jinx is probably not dead, and apparently the very final shot of the airship is supposed to be a callback to the first episode of Season 1 where she says that one day she's going to ride one, implying she's on that ship. But the outcome narratively is the same; we don't get any closure on her arc. And a major part of that arc is her relationship with her sister. They don't even get a final moment in the last episode - to talk, to hug, anything. And sometimes two characters getting seperated like that can work, but this is the finale and these two are the heart of the show. They should've really gotten the closing moment, and not giving them that feels like a big letdown.

Also, that sex scene in Episode 8 is cool 'n all, but in that moment Vi chooses to jump Catlin's bones instead of searching for her suicidal sister. Kinda puts a damper in that steamy moment, huh?

Spoiler

I think Mel in general is probably the weakest aspect of this season. I still have no idea what she is, what her powers are, and why she is apparently so important.

Not sure what the confusion over Jayce and Viktor is though. What else should Jayce have done to stop Viktor? I guess they could have at least tried talking it out before attempting all the murder, but Jayce was clearly not in his right mind. I don't think Future Viktor told Jayce to do anything specific, other than prevent the apocalypse.

I didn't mind what they did with Silco, but I also don't disagree. There was quite a lot of dick sucking from everyone for a very bad guy. Moving on from him should have been more of an arc for Jinx.

I don't think you're being fair to Vi. She was knocked out for quite a while and the minute she woke up, she had to worry about Jinx being in prison. Then right after that it was straight to preparing for the defense of Piltover. She didn't have the time to come to terms with Vander's death like Jinx did. She didn't seem like she was trying to save Vander either, she was just grieving. Not that the whole Jinx sacrifice thing wasn't contrived, but calling Vi stupid for... idk, having human emotions??? seems really harsh.

As for Vi and Powder's relationship, I agree. At the end of the show, I was asking myself: what was the point? The only arc I could think of that actually concluded was Zaun finally getting representation on the Council, implying that the division between the under and upper cities would cease to exist. Would have liked to see more tangible examples of that though. But Jayce and Viktor? Vi and Powder? I guess Caitlyn gets to shack up with Vi and becomes a councilwoman like her mother before her, but that didn't seem like her aspiration. She wanted to prove herself, but she a) was a terrible leader of the Enforcers and b) got her position mainly because of her family name.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Spoiler

Not sure what the confusion over Jayce and Viktor is though. What else should Jayce have done to stop Viktor? I guess they could have at least tried talking it out before attempting all the murder, but Jayce was clearly not in his right mind. I don't think Future Viktor told Jayce to do anything specific, other than prevent the apocalypse.

I don't think you're being fair to Vi. She was knocked out for quite a while and the minute she woke up, she had to worry about Jinx being in prison. Then right after that it was straight to preparing for the defense of Piltover. She didn't have the time to come to terms with Vander's death like Jinx did. She didn't seem like she was trying to save Vander either, she was just grieving. Not that the whole Jinx sacrifice thing wasn't contrived, but calling Vi stupid for... idk, having human emotions??? seems really harsh.

Spoiler

If we saw Jayce's actions chronologically I'd probably have a different opinion on it. If we started out seeing Jayce saying he'll make things right only to result in him blasting Victor that would've been a nice rug-pull for the audience. But Episode 6 is very much meant for the audience to go 'Oh my god Jayce, why would you do that?', and Episode 7 makes us think 'Okay, now we finally get to see what made Jayce so eager to kill Victor'. But we don't really. Just seeing PiIltover destroyed isn't enough without concrete signs that Victor was behind it, specifically Victor as he is in Episode 6. Whether Jayce's mind was scrambled from the inter dimensional trip isn't specified either, because no words are said by him afterward, that he made a mistake or that he did the right thing by killing Victor. There's no moment of clarity as to why without a moments hestitation he just killed him, yet Victor being revealed to have been the sorcerer all this time implies a some clear plan of action. It just doesn't line up.

And with Vi I probably wouldn't have minded it much either if the sacrificial red carpet wasn't so obviously being rolled out for Jinx. We had the tragedy of Vander's fate done quite beautifully in Act 2, so to dredge it up just to trap Jinx into a heroic sacrifice really pissed me off.

And yeah, Mel was kinda done dirty by this season. She was such a driving force in Season 1 as the manipulator with a good heart, but ironically by giving her magic powers they turned her into a much less interesting character.

 

[Bob_McMillan]

Spoiler

If we saw Jayce's actions chronologically I'd probably have a different opinion on it. If we started out seeing Jayce saying he'll make things right only to result in him blasting Victor that would've been a nice rug-pull for the audience. But Episode 6 is very much meant for the audience to go 'Oh my god Jayce, why would you do that?', and Episode 7 makes us think 'Okay, now we finally get to see what made Jayce so eager to kill Victor'. But we don't really. Just seeing PiIltover destroyed isn't enough without concrete signs that Victor was behind it, specifically Victor as he is in Episode 6. Whether Jayce's mind was scrambled from the inter dimensional trip isn't specified either, because no words are said by him afterward, that he made a mistake or that he did the right thing by killing Victor. There's no moment of clarity as to why without a moments hestitation he just killed him, yet Victor being revealed to have been the sorcerer all this time implies a some clear plan of action. It just doesn't line up.

And with Vi I probably wouldn't have minded it much either if the sacrificial red carpet wasn't so obviously being rolled out for Jinx. We had the tragedy of Vander's fate done quite beautifully in Act 2, so to dredge it up just to trap Jinx into a heroic sacrifice really pissed me off.

And yeah, Mel was kinda done dirty by this season. She was such a driving force in Season 1 as the manipulator with a good heart, but ironically by giving her magic powers they turned her into a much less interesting character.

Spoiler

I agree that the handling of Jayce attempting to kill Viktor should have been better, which was likely sacrificed in favor of shock value, but I still don't see why the idea of killing Viktor seems out of place. He just spent weeks alone in the apocalypse he helped cause, and the moment he is sent back in time, he choses the nuclear option of ending the threat as soon as possible. Hextech is evil, Jayce won't make it anymore, and the only other person who can is Viktor. Viktor doesn't want to stop, so goodbye Viktor. What other plan could Sorcerer Viktor give him? His timeline is different from Jayce's, the only thing that saved them was Ekko's anomaly that Viktor thought was impossible.

Also, if you rewatch the scene, it is most definitely not "without a moment's hesitation". I mean just look at him, it was clearly not an easy decision, nor does he look like he is thinking straight.


I think the real problem here is that we don't really know WHY Hextech in general, is so inherently wrong. It just fucks things up, I guess??? If there were some sort of principle behind it that Viktor agreed with but Jayce did, it would be easier to swallow. Viktor's pursuit of perfection is what led to his downfall, but what would have happened if Hextech wasn't some ticking time bomb?

Anyway, apparently Mel is being added to LoL as a playable character soon. Which is crazy, because that means her whole reveal this season made sense to no one. I assumed it was some surprise easter egg of sorts for the players, but nope. She's an Arcane only character.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

Wife and I just stared a couple of things:

From
I was interested in because I was down for something that feels like Lost- some mystery thriller thing, and this is from the producers and it has one of the stars. Two episodes in and it's enough to keep us interested so far. It's about a town where people can't leave and at night some creepy monsters kill who they can and can take the form of people and trick them.
My complaint so far is that while I expected graphical violence I think it's a bit too graphic? Not for you if you don't wanna see corpses literally inside out.

Interior Chinatown
Based on a breakout popular novel and starring the Chinese guy from Silicon Valley, this is like a meta-comedy-action thing where a guy with a dull life fantasizes about being in a cool exciting life and gets pulled into some crime/cop drama by a hot cop lady (actress played Quake in Agents of Shield). The meta is that the whole thing is a TV show within a TV show?
Our interest will probably depend on how the whole meta thing works, if it will be smug and annoying or just a pleasant trapping around what is a promising cast and some decent humor potential.

Meanwhile on my own...

Bosch, seasons 1-3

I actually don't remember if I posted about Bosch, one of Amazon Prime's first flagship shows, but I finished season 3 so I figured I'd post an update.

Basically so far each season improves on the last. This is a cop drama and it has all the comforting tropes if you're in the mood for this sort of thing, which I clearly am- grizzled tough guy detective who doesn't put with bullshit and it gets him in trouble but he's also open minded and compassionate when he needs to be; a mopy but precocious teenage daughter; feisty tough romantic woman partners; a loyal and cool partner; the occassional bad apple cops to permit the copaganda of the rest of the show; etc.

End of season 3 and implied leading into season 4 might lean more into the corrupt cops and politicians which makes for better drama then the Dexter-style Super Criminal seasonal story line that I can take or leave.
There is a whole over-arching narrative about his mother's mysterious murder that he's trying to figure out which was intriguing at first but the problem is they kind of remind you of it every few episodes then forget about it so I was getting annoyed. We'll see how that goes.

The show has a comforting vibe, where Bosch is driving around having delightfully uncomfortable conversations with everyone. It's based on a bunch of books which explains how there's 7 season of this thing (plus they brought it back for 2 more, the way every other damn franchise thing gets brought back for a minute). The book author wrote in his own personal jazz obsession to the title character and since I'm also a jazz fan I can't deny getting a cheap kick when Bosch monologizes about some saxophone player, causing me to reach into my own vinyl collection (or go hunting on ebay).

 

[Casual Shinji]

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I think the real problem here is that we don't really know WHY Hextech in general, is so inherently wrong. It just fucks things up, I guess??? If there were some sort of principle behind it that Viktor agreed with but Jayce did, it would be easier to swallow. Viktor's pursuit of perfection is what led to his downfall, but what would have happened if Hextech wasn't some ticking time bomb?

Spoiler

I guess that hits on what bothers me about it; we see the devastation it can cause, but Jayce was already aware of how dangerous it could be. The first season also mentions how Piltover was established specifically to escape the destruction that mages cause. Them creating Hextech was a giant risk from the start, but ultimately seen as worth the risk by Jayce and Victor, and eventually even Heimerdinger. But seeing it with his own eyes just makes him feel he needs to kill Victor immediately? The Victor that told him the Hexcore was dangerous, that it killed Sky, and that Jayce used to merge Victor's body with anyway? Jayce seeing the post-apocalypse just wasn't enough for me in light of what he already knew about the dangers of Hextech.

When it comes to Jayce and Victor there was far too much jumping back and forth from 'ready to kill/abandon' to 'ready to forgive/reunite' in this season, that I really just stopped feeling engaged in their relationship.

 

[hanselthecaretaker2]

Yellowstone season 5 part 2

The latest episode gave me some hope for this yet. The bit with Kayce and the medical examiner was pretty pitch perfect. I think what’s her name got off too easily at the end, but bigger fish I guess. Jamie will likely get even more annoying based on the preview.

While most of the show centers around the negative effects of commercialism and its lack of sustainability, it is the one liners that, while a bit on-the-nose, really drive the point home. Lynelle’s commentary on what Jackson (shit)Hole has turned into was the latest gem.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

Yellowstone season 5 part 2

The latest episode gave me some hope for this yet. The bit with Kayce and the medical examiner was pretty pitch perfect. I think what’s her name got off too easily at the end, but bigger fish I guess. Jamie will likely get even more annoying based on the preview.

While most of the show centers around the negative effects of commercialism and its lack of sustainability, it is the one liners that, while a bit on-the-nose, really drive the point home. Lynelle’s commentary on what Jackson (shit)Hole has turned into was the latest gem.

Oh, yeah, Yellowstone is back without Kevin Costner.

I was enjoying the show but it was definitely tapering off and when it STOPPED because of Costner v Sheridan I just stopped caring. But maybe I'll dip back in if it's good? Though at this point I'd only be interested if they're properly ending the show.

 

[hanselthecaretaker2]

Oh, yeah, Yellowstone is back without Kevin Costner.

I was enjoying the show but it was definitely tapering off and when it STOPPED because of Costner v Sheridan I just stopped caring. But maybe I'll dip back in if it's good? Though at this point I'd only be interested if they're properly ending the show.

Yeah, might want to wait for the whole thing to wrap and check on viewer impressions to avoid a letdown. I’m a sucker though so will take the abuse as it comes and hope for the best. Or until the spinoff that (tentatively) will costar Kurt Russell and Michelle Pfeiffer.

 

[Old_Hunter_77]

Yeah, might want to wait for the whole thing to wrap and check on viewer impressions to avoid a letdown. I’m a sucker though so will take the abuse as it comes and hope for the best. Or until the spinoff that (tentatively) will costar Kurt Russell and Michelle Pfeiffer.

Didn't know about the spinoff with two of my favorite actors ever... ok...
Fortunately I have Bosch for my dad-TV viewing so yeah I will probably wait for it to end. We thank you early adapters!