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Maybe it's just from having watched too many TV shows, but this really feels like a "nothing left to lose" scenario, someone with a critical condition who had coverage refused, was basically told "please go die quietly for the sake of our profits" but decided otherwise.
The same could be said to apply to society on a larger level, though.

As an aside, apparently the silencer caused the weapon to malfunction several times, which is really something you'd expect to discover before going ahead with it.
 

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You've got something against Columbus, Ohio?
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I spent last weekend in Sugarcreek, FWIW. Dutch Host Inn, they have a great little package deal for most of the year. Hotel itself is nothing special, but can't beat the deal. And OH Amish country has way better food than PA Amish country. Every time we go up there we also make a point of grabbing something from Esther's Bakery which is right beside the clock.
I'm pretty much in Amish country here, and I'd say the food towards either side of PA is better than what's here in the middle, so you might be onto something.

But honestly, other than a crappy hotdog experience in Columbus once, my biggest gripes with Ohio are all the actual geography. It might actually be the most boring place on earth. You go west from Ohio, and the world is impressively flat, like climb a ladder and see for miles flat, and that's kinda neat. You go south or east from Ohio and you're in the Appalachian mountains, and there's rivers and bridges and tunnels, all beautiful places. Driving through Ohio it's just hilly enough to block your vision but not enough to be interesting, it's driving in a featureless ditch for endless miles. I once went most of the width of Ohio, all the way from Toledo back home to Pennsylvania, entirely in cruise control. It's so boring. I can praise the people there, they put chili on spaghetti, but the state itself stinks. It's sort of the opposite of New Jersey in that sense, New Jersey is mostly a pretty place filled with awful people.
 

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As an aside, apparently the silencer caused the weapon to malfunction several times, which is really something you'd expect to discover before going ahead with it.
It's possible that he didn't want to be seen testing it. (A suppressed pistol firing normal 9mm Parabellum ammunition [depending on the type of suppressor] is still going to produce a supersonic crack, which will probably attract attention.) Also, there's a chance that it's a "homebrew" suppressor, or that the gun wasn't originally manufactured to mount one and therefore he jury-rigged it, either of which could cause the gun to fail to cycle properly.
 
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Yeah, contrary to what movies suggest, a silencer/suppressor isn't so much a quiet "THWIP" sound that can't be heard unless you are in the same room and more of a "dropped a heavy book on the ground" sound. Still quieter, obviously, but also very noticeable, especially when it's a sudden sound.
 

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It's possible that he didn't want to be seen testing it. (A suppressed pistol firing normal 9mm Parabellum ammunition [depending on the type of suppressor] is still going to produce a supersonic crack, which will probably attract attention.) Also, there's a chance that it's a "homebrew" suppressor, or that the gun wasn't originally manufactured to mount one and therefore he jury-rigged it, either of which could cause the gun to fail to cycle properly.
Ah, if it was a homemade unregistered one, yeah, couldn't take it to a range to try it out or whatever, didn't think of that.
 

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I would like to state the opposing viewpoint on that CEO that he was a father and had a wife/now widow who may or may not have loved him. And no, we need rules in society. You can't just be a vigilante; mob rule doesn't work, etc. I am sure he had friends and family too.

Okay, I am done.

That guy got so many people killed who killed themselves over medical debt. How many people did he get killed because of a procedure that his insurance company/death panel of a horror show of an organization stopped, delayed, etc. He was a soulless man whose most significant contribution to society was that he price-gauged people at their most desperate time in their lives. His legacy will be that he upheld a system that serves to gatekeep the very essence of life to people, that of healthcare.
 

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The same could be said to apply to society on a larger level, though.

As an aside, apparently the silencer caused the weapon to malfunction several times, which is really something you'd expect to discover before going ahead with it.
Suppressors are usually pretty restricted, it could have been homemade and as people said, he may not have tested it because it would draw attention. I can't imagine a wealth of options in New York state to go shoot where nobody can see. But I think he may have, because he was quick to manually cycle the gun, like he was expecting it. Though who knows.
 

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Yeah, contrary to what movies suggest, a silencer/suppressor isn't so much a quiet "THWIP" sound that can't be heard unless you are in the same room and more of a "dropped a heavy book on the ground" sound. Still quieter, obviously, but also very noticeable, especially when it's a sudden sound.
You can get a weapon to be absurdly quiet all things being considered, but you need a potent suppressor and use subsonic ammo. Like, down to the point where the most audible noise is the cycling of the action.

 

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Suppressors are usually pretty restricted, it could have been homemade and as people said, he may not have tested it because it would draw attention. I can't imagine a wealth of options in New York state to go shoot where nobody can see. But I think he may have, because he was quick to manually cycle the gun, like he was expecting it. Though who knows.
True, I was overlooking that suppressors are illegal (baring law enforcement and the like) in New York.
 

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The same could be said to apply to society on a larger level, though.

As an aside, apparently the silencer caused the weapon to malfunction several times, which is really something you'd expect to discover before going ahead with it.
Despite the gun jamming multiple times, he calmly cleared multiple jams and kept shooting rather than running away the moment something unplanned happened. Dude definitely had a personal vendetta.

I would like to state the opposing viewpoint on that CEO that he was a father and had a wife/now widow who may or may not have loved him. And no, we need rules in society. You can't just be a vigilante; mob rule doesn't work, etc. I am sure he had friends and family too.

Okay, I am done.

That guy got so many people killed who killed themselves over medical debt. How many people did he get killed because of a procedure that his insurance company/death panel of a horror show of an organization stopped, delayed, etc. He was a soulless man whose most significant contribution to society was that he price-gauged people at their most desperate time in their lives. His legacy will be that he upheld a system that serves to gatekeep the very essence of life to people, that of healthcare.
There's people who loved Ted Bundy too.

This man dedicated his life to bringing misery to others, and the world would have been better were he never born.
 

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This man dedicated his life to bringing misery to others, and the world would have been better were he never born.
Well, kind of. There's also an argument that he's a product of the system, and unless it's an effective way of taking down the system killing individuals is pretty pointless because they'll just be replaced by the next.
 

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So, quick story.

Someone decided to create a Fox News equivalent in the UK called "GB News". Actually, probably more a Newsmax or OAN than a Fox, clearly aiming at the demographic range from UKIP to BNP / England First. Although of course instead of just admitting it's ultra-right, it instead applies the usual euphemisms about resisting the elites and mainstream media [liberal left] agenda; being independent, honest, passionate, blah blah blah. And, interestingly, a desire to expose these elites' "growing promotion of cancel culture for the threat to free speech and democracy that it is”, as announced by its chairman and flagship journalist in an introduction to the channel. Hold that last bit in your mind.

So it seems one of their presenters decided to symbolically take the knee in sympathy with English footballers, to protest the racist abuse they were subjected to for Euro 2020. In response, their small force of determined, very right wing viewers started boycotting the channel at this disgusting display of wokedom, and three days later, the passionate and independently-minded channel fired the presenter for allegedly breaking its editorial code.

Uh-huh. Gotta love that opposition to cancel culture, eh.

Honestly, the whole GB News situation is just peak irony, isn’t it? They brand themselves as the crusaders against cancel culture and champions of free speech, but the moment one of their own steps even slightly out of line, they pull the trigger. Taking the knee to stand against racism shouldn’t even be controversial, yet their audience threw a tantrum, and the channel folded like a cheap deck chair.

It’s wild how fast their ‘independent, honest journalism’ shtick falls apart when it conflicts with their demographic’s outrage quota. Seems like their opposition to cancel culture only applies when it’s their side getting called out. Hypocrisy at its finest, but hey, at least it’s consistent!"
 

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In the wake of the premeditated fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson on Dec. 4, C-suite security is being scrutinized across industries, including healthcare.

On Dec. 4, dozens of chief security officers from some of the nation's largest companies met virtually to discuss new security measures for executives and to review current protocols, The New York Times reported.

"Many of my colleagues today are sitting down with their executive protection team leaders, their security leadership teams, and re-evaluating what they are doing and not doing," Dave Komendat, a former chief security officer at Boeing and president of DSKomendat Risk Management Services, told The Times.

There is a bigger security risk for healthcare executives "because of the services that are being provided and the emotion that comes along with some of those services," he said.

UnitedHealth Group has taken down the photos and biographies of its executives online. CVS Health has removed executive headshots from its website as well.

According to the NYPD, Mr. Thompson did not have security with him when a masked gunman approached him at 6:46 a.m. outside the New York Hilton Midtown and shot him at least once in the back and once in the right leg. He was rushed to Mount Sinai West in critical condition but was later pronounced dead at 7:12 a.m.

"We don't know the motivation. Certainly, if it's a personal motivation, that changes the landscape a little bit," Glen Kucera, CEO of MSA Security, told Fortune. "If it was motivated by the business that they're in, the healthcare business, or anything that could be related, then certainly that's a wake up call to a lot of CEOs and executives traveling throughout the country and the world."

UnitedHealth Group does not allocate funding specifically for executive security, according to the company's proxy statements. Other insurers such as Humana and Cigna Group do offer security as a benefit for executives, according to Bloomberg.

Home security spending for S&P 500 CEOs increased from 12.6% in 2020 to 15.7% in 2023, according to data from ISS-Corporate. Among large healthcare companies, executive security costs decreased from 0.8% in 2018 to 0.5% in 2024, according to Esgauge data.

In the past, some C-level executives also didn't want personal security.

"They think it's a violation of their privacy. They think it's a little pretentious. It draws attention to them. They think: who would want to hurt them?" Ed Davis of LLC Security and Management Consulting, told CBS News.
Ah, seems lessons are being learned. Wrong lessons, cuz sociopaths, but lessons nonetheless.
CVS Health has removed executive headshots from its website as well
That's a fantastic choice of words tho.

Also, the NYPD apparently released pictures or the shooter showing his face and is offering a $10000 reward for tips. Which prompted a lot of comment from folks along the lines of "If I see him, I'm not telling". I pondered why that is, but in hindsight it's so obvious.

Because snitches get stitches, and your health insurance might not cover those.
 
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