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Try moving your underline to "they believe" and "in the current context". The directives to freeze hiring and cut employees is coming from the White House. The office of personnel management advised on how to comply with those directives, and asked to keep records of their staffing decisions up to date with them, since they are the office of personnel management.

There certainly is clear instruction to terminate most probationary employees. It's coming from the president. Suing OPM for trying to, you know, manage the personnel changes that were ordered from the White House is quite the misunderstanding of the situation.
You can't sue the president now, even if he does something illegal. You can only target agencies fulfilling on those requests.

Edit: the other problem with OPM is that they set up a unverified and unprotected server with all government employees data on it. The broke basic confidentiality
 
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I assume, from the rules you set up earlier, this means I get to ignore everything in this paragraph
I do not have have anyone on here set to ignore, but you are the one user I consider. I enjoy reasonable arguments, I also enjoy unreasonable arguments, but there is a chaos in your thinking specifically that saddens me, that makes it really feel like it would be unkind to torture you any further.
 

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Try moving your underline to "they believe" and "in the current context". The directives to freeze hiring and cut employees is coming from the White House. The office of personnel management advised on how to comply with those directives [...]
They advised on how to comply... and their advice was to terminate employees who didn't fit the exemptions.

The instruction initially came from the President. It was then repeated/interpreted by the OPM. The OPM told them to comply they'd need to terminate employees.

there is a chaos in your thinking specifically that saddens me, that makes it really feel like it would be unkind to torture you any further.
The 'false concern for wellbeing' is one of the most rancid rhetorical tactics of all. And coming after you'd been talking about the nature of being patronising earlier, with seemingly no self-awareness, is stunning.
 
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The instruction initially came from the President.
Which is why it makes no sense for a judge to declare they have no authority to fire other departments' employees. OPM wasn't exerting any authority, they were offering guidance in the context of the president's orders.
The 'false concern for wellbeing' is one of the most rancid rhetorical tactics of all.
It's not false, nor do I expect it to be helpful. I answer almost every post directed at me on here, but I just don't really ever want to argue with Trunkage, I thought that would be better explained than just ignore one specific person, especially if I think that person could be hurt by being uniquely ignored without explanation.
 

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Which is why it makes no sense for a judge to declare they have no authority to fire other departments' employees. OPM wasn't exerting any authority, they were offering guidance in the context of the president's orders.
The President made no such actual order for these people to be fired. He made vague allusions to a need to downsize staffing, no specific orders to agencies. The OPM then outlined specific 'exemptions' and told the agencies those outside those exemptions shouldn't be retained.

It's not false, nor do I expect it to be helpful. I answer almost every post directed at me on here, but I just don't really ever want to argue with Trunkage, I thought that would be better explained than just ignore one specific person, especially if I think that person could be hurt by being uniquely ignored without explanation.
I don't believe you, frankly, and think It is wholly false. There's not really anything in Trunkage's posts much out of the ordinary for online discourse, and you're faking a mental health concern as a smear. It's rather disgusting that you'd sink to that, but then, the quality of your argumentation and willingness to engage with empathy and understanding have taken a nosedive in the last few years.
 

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and so the dial turns another notch higher

BREAKING: DHS Detains Lead Negotiator of Columbia Gaza Solidarity Encampment After Online Campaign by Pro-Israel Groups
Mahmoud Khalil, who was detained on Saturday, is being held at an ICE detention facility.


Columbia University security officers speak with Mahmoud Khalil at Columbia University on Thursday, March 6. Photo: Janine AlHadidi

NEW YORK CITY—On Saturday night, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) agents entered a student residential building at Columbia University in uptown New York and detained Mahmoud Khalil, one of the lead negotiators on behalf of pro-Palestine protesters at 2024’s Gaza solidarity encampment. In a sweeping attack on the First Amendment, the Trump administration said this week it would begin revoking visas of “Hamas sympathizers,” specifically citing Columbia University students. The detention followed a two-day targeted online campaign against Khalil by pro-Israel groups and individuals, including Columbia’s high-profile pro-Israel professor, Shai Davidai.

Khalil, an Algerian citizen of Palestinian origin and an American green-card holder, was detained by DHS officials around half past eight as he was entering the Columbia residential building he lives in. He was returning from an iftar, breaking the day-long fast observed by many Muslims during the month of Ramadan.

Khalil’s wife, who is eight months pregnant, was with him at the time. A statement by the pro-Palestine group Writers Against the War on Gaza (WAWOG) stated that he was “abducted and detained without the physical demonstration of a warrant or officially filed charges.” At the time of writing, Khalil is still being detained at a DHS facility in New Jersey, according to a database for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

According to WAWOG, the DHS agents told Khalil that the U.S. Department of State had revoked his student visa. The group said this was “despite the fact that he has a green card, not a visa, and is a lawful permanent resident.”

Khalil’s wife was unlocking the door to the building when “two plainclothes DHS agents forced their way in behind them.” They initially refused to identify themselves, she reported, but then threatened Khalil’s wife that if she remained with him, she would be detained too.

On Wednesday, Khalil was among the protesters at a sit-in at Milstein Library in Columbia University’s Barnard College, protesting the recent expulsion of three Barnard students over pro-Palestine activism. New York Police Department officers later arrested nine individuals from the same protest—the third round of arrests of pro-Palestine demonstrators on Columbia’s campuses in the past year.

Over the course of Thursday and Friday, several prominent pro-Israel groups and individuals published a series of tweets targeting Khalil, mentioning his presence at the sit-in on Wednesday and his history as a lead negotiator with Columbia in April 2024, and demanded that the Trump administration act strongly against him by revoking his visa and deporting him. They tagged President Donald Trump, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, and US Attorney General Pam Bondi.

Shai Davidai, a professor at Columbia Business School, who was suspended from entering Columbia’s Morningside campus in 2024 following allegations of misconduct against students and staff of the university, tweeted, “Illegally taking over a college in which you are not even enrolled and distributing terrorist propaganda should be a deportable offense, no? Because that’s what Mahmoud Khalil from @ColumbiaSJP did yesterday at @BarnardCollege”.

“Documenting Jew Hatred on Campus at Columbia U”—an account on X with more than 20,000 followers—tweeted, “Secretary Rubio (@SecRubio), please revoke Mahmoud Khalil's visa!” On March 6, Rubio had tweeted that “those who support designated terrorist organizations, including Hamas, threaten our national security” and that such “violators of U.S law—including international students—face visa denial or revocation, and deportation.”

A pro-Israel student protester at Columbia shared that Khalil was “known to have been on a foreign visa last year” before stating that he “recently helped illegally take over a library building”. Canary Mission posted against Khalil on their social media profiles with the caption “SUSPECTED FOREIGN NATIONAL ALERT”.

A post on Instagram by “Documenting Jew Hatred On Campus” and another account, “Jews In School,” referred to Khalil as a “foreign student agitator at Columbia University” and “the poster child for demonstrating that the Trump administration is serious about revoking visas of foreign students who support terrorism, foment hatred, and harass Jews.”

Saturday’s actions against Khalil also took place against the backdrop of the Trump administration’s decision to cancel around $400 million in federal grants and contracts to Columbia University. The White House has claimed that Columbia’s “failure to protect Jewish students from antisemitic harassment” was the reason for this move.

Columbia University recently set up an office that is secretly investigating its students for political statements about Israel, Drop Site News reported this week, and is requiring students to sign non-disclosure agreements to view the evidence being brought against them. On Friday evening, Columbia University’s Interim President Katrina Armstrong said that the university has reworked leadership structures to “more swiftly respond to incidents of antisemitism and discrimination on campus.”

Khalil, a graduate student at Columbia’s School of International and Public Affairs, had previously stated that he was accused by the university’s office of misconduct just weeks before his graduation in December 2024. “I have around 13 allegations against me, most of them are social media posts that I had nothing to do with,” he told the Associated Press in an article published on March 6.

After refusing to sign the nondisclosure agreement, Khalil reportedly said the university put a hold on his transcript and threatened to block him from graduating. But when he appealed the decision through a lawyer, he said, they eventually backed down.






It's crime season, ppl, so don't forget to get any crimes you need criming done in this rare window of opportunity like whoever the chancer was behind this has done (normal crimes not made up by fash ones, but you should do those too, just be more vigilant)




huh, wait, isn't that some gd ole actual anti-Semitism yet again from the resident cuntworm in the oval office?
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look, Soros, if you reading, I'll take any cash to say anything you want, I got no limits here, no morals and no shame, whatever you want spammed just hit me up bro I promise to not let you down! 🤞🤞👃👃Literally anything!

ok let's not end on a negative downer shall we? Got some fucking drum n bass for ya's all cunts time to get trashed and forget about the future for a blissful moment
 
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I don't believe you, frankly, and think It is wholly false. There's not really anything in Trunkage's posts much out of the ordinary for online discourse, and you're faking a mental health concern as a smear. It's rather disgusting that you'd sink to that, but then, the quality of your argumentation and willingness to engage with empathy and understanding have taken a nosedive in the last few years.
That's not a smear, I think much less highly of most of the rest of you.
 

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That's not a smear, I think much less highly of most of the rest of you.
If someone engaged in concern trolling thinks less of me, I'll take that as a positive. I wouldn't want to be thought of highly by someone willing to stoop that low.