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Yeah it’s Elon but he’s said/done crazier things -



Guessing the big fossil fuel and political elite connected to them wouldn’t like hearing this.
 

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Yeah it’s Elon but he’s said/done crazier things -
I started that video, but the minute he made an argument that was approximately "The earth is 70% water and humans are 70% water therefore we can solve problems involving water" I was out.
 
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I started that video, but the minute he made an argument that was approximately "The earth is 70% water and humans are 70% water therefore we can solve problems involving water" I was out.
It sounded more like a bad joke, about aliens calling us “water” if they landed here because like earth we’re comprised of a similar amount of it. Maybe about 10% less on average.
 

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It sounded more like a bad joke, about aliens calling us “water” if they landed here because like earth we’re comprised of a similar amount of it. Maybe about 10% less on average.
Either Elon's scriptwriter didn't make that claer, or Elon would be well advised never to try a career in stand-up comedy.
 
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Either Elon's scriptwriter didn't make that claer, or Elon would be well advised never to try a career in stand-up comedy.
Ironically enough, Dave Chappelle once brought him out as a special guest at one of his shows. It didn’t go so well!

Elon actually actually used the, “I’m rich, b*itch!” line from his old show.
 

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It sounded more like a bad joke, about aliens calling us “water” if they landed here because like earth we’re comprised of a similar amount of it. Maybe about 10% less on average.
I mean, it's also just wrong. Earth isn't 70% water. 70% of the surface of Earth is covered in water, but by volume it's only about 0.1% and about 0.02% by mass.

The most common element on Earth is actually iron, about 32%
 

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The most common element on Earth is actually iron, about 32%
Iron is the largest component of the Earth by mass, but if by common you mean abundance, it's oxygen.
 

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I started that video, but the minute he made an argument that was approximately "The earth is 70% water and humans are 70% water therefore we can solve problems involving water" I was out.
It's made of people, Agema. IT'S MADE OF PEOPLE
 

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Within the earth though, or just in terms of the atmosphere above it?
There's basically nothing in the atmosphere.

Air is something like 1kg per cubic metre at sea level. But a cubic metre is 1000kg of water, or 2-3000kg of stone, or 8000kg iron. The air also gets less dense at higher altitudes - by the time you're at the top of Everest, it's only about 400-500g per cubic metre. What this means is that not only is the atmosphere vastly less dense than the crust and below, but because nearly all the mass of the atmosphere is in the bottom 20km or so, so the atmosphere is also in effect a much smaller volume than the solid bit of the planet.

Consequently, the atmosphere contributes an almost negligible amount to the total atomic content / mass of the Earth.
 

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This thread should die, no country that can meaningfully fight climate change will. Either China or the US invents fusion nuclear energy, or efficient carbon capture, or temperatures will increase. In sum, the Americans don't want to pay for it, the Europeans have no power on it, OPEC doesn't want to stop it, Russia doesn't want to stop existing, and China doesn't want to be accountable to it. Even if I live in the Midwest with lots of fresh water, I don't think I would be wise to have children for myself.
 

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This thread should die, no country that can meaningfully fight climate change will. Either China or the US invents fusion nuclear energy, or efficient carbon capture, or temperatures will increase. In sum, the Americans don't want to pay for it, the Europeans have no power on it, OPEC doesn't want to stop it, Russia doesn't want to stop existing, and China doesn't want to be accountable to it. Even if I live in the Midwest with lots of fresh water, I don't think I would be wise to have children for myself.
You totally can't have kids because the threat of climate-related death is so high!!!

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You totally can't have kids because the threat of climate-related death is so high!!!

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The start of the Syrian civil war was contributed to due to drought. So no that's not accurate. And that was in 2011. It will get worse.

 

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The start of the Syrian civil war was contributed to due to drought. So no that's not accurate. And that was in 2011. It will get worse.


Claiming that droughts are a consequence of global warming is also wrong. The world has not seen a general increase in drought. A study published in Nature in March 2014 shows globally that there has been little change in drought over the past 60 years.

The U.N. Climate Panel in 2012 concluded: “Some regions of the world have experienced more intense and longer droughts, in particular in southern Europe and West Africa, but in some regions droughts have become less frequent, less intense, or shorter, for example, in central North America and northwestern Australia.”
 

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Claiming that droughts are a consequence of global warming is also wrong. The world has not seen a general increase in drought. A study published in Nature in March 2014 shows globally that there has been little change in drought over the past 60 years.

The U.N. Climate Panel in 2012 concluded: “Some regions of the world have experienced more intense and longer droughts, in particular in southern Europe and West Africa, but in some regions droughts have become less frequent, less intense, or shorter, for example, in central North America and northwestern Australia.”
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No, bad source.

There are still large uncertainties regarding observed global-scale trends in
droughts. The AR4 reported based on analyses using PDSI (see Box 3-3)
that very dry areas had more than doubled in extent since 1970 at the
global scale (Trenberth et al., 2007). This assessment was, however,
largely based on the study by Dai et al. (2004) only. These trends in the
PDSI proxy were found to be largely affected by changes in temperature,
not precipitation (Dai et al., 2004). On the other hand, based on soil
moisture simulations with an observation-driven land surface model for
the time period 1950-2000, Sheffield and Wood (2008a) have inferred
trends in drought duration, intensity, and severity predominantly
decreasing, but with strong regional variation and including increases in
some regions. They concluded that there was an overall moistening trend
over the considered time period, but also a switch since the 1970s to a
drying trend, globally and in many regions, especially in high northern
latitudes.

 
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