US 2024 Presidential Election

[The Rogue Wolf]

Trump's $15 billion defamation lawsuit against the NY Times has been immediately thrown out by a judge appointed by that radical-left Marxist maniac... George H.W. Bush.

Judge tosses Trump's $15B New York Times lawsuit, calling it 'improper' and 'invective'

But the president still has 28 days to potentially amend his complaint against the newspaper.

www.nbcnews.com

"A complaint is not a megaphone for public relations or a podium for a passionate oration at a political rally or the functional equivalent of the Hyde Park Speakers’ Corner."

Liz Dye gives a detailed report of how much of this lawsuit is simply Trump patting himself on the back* here:

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* This is a metaphor. Donald Trump is much, much too fat and out-of-shape to manage to actually pat himself on the back. He has sycophants to do that for him.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Yes, this is the President of the United States of America saying that women who were protesting against him at a restaurant should be arrested.


They were "a threat" to his tender little ego, and as we all know, assaulting Trump's ego should be considered treason.

Can we just all now come to the agreement that Trump is a fascist?

 

[meiam]

Oh hey Trump just said that company hiring foreigner need to pay the government 100K... except if he likes them and waive the fee.

Keep licking the boot.

 

[Agema]

Oh hey Trump just said that company hiring foreigner need to pay the government 100K... except if he likes them and waive the fee.

Keep licking the boot.

Yeah, I'm not sure this is necessarily a bad thing, although partly from the perspective of a non-American.

Undoubtedly, inability to hire in talent is going to impair US competitiveness - which means everyone else benefits. If the USA can't hire a labour force to support industries, then workers and investment will go elsewhere. As a non-American, I'd say if the USA wants to help the economic development of my country, that's great.

Secondly, the argument can be made that bosses can use exploit vulnerable, visa workers against US ones which can demand better pay, job security, protections, etc. The US tech sector has been dumping workers like crazy over the last few years. For instance, it's believed that when FKA Twitter downsized its workforce, it overwhelmingly canned US workers, and mostly kept the more desperate visa workers who could be threatened into working harder for less.

But this will also then mean that workers can gain more power over companies, because it's harder for companies to exploit voters than it is for them to exploit immigrants. And worker leverage is great for the protection of workers.

 

[Silvanus]

Oh hey Trump just said that company hiring foreigner need to pay the government 100K... except if he likes them and waive the fee.

I can think of very few moves the government could make that would further encourage firms to hire illegal immigrants.

 

[Satinavian]

I can think of very few moves the government could make that would further encourage firms to hire illegal immigrants.

I think it will instead result in more outsourcing oversea. You don't have to pay that 100000 if the worker is still in India.

I agree with Agema. It is good news for the rest of the world.

 

[meiam]

Yeah, I'm not sure this is necessarily a bad thing, although partly from the perspective of a non-American.

Undoubtedly, inability to hire in talent is going to impair US competitiveness - which means everyone else benefits. If the USA can't hire a labour force to support industries, then workers and investment will go elsewhere. As a non-American, I'd say if the USA wants to help the economic development of my country, that's great.

Secondly, the argument can be made that bosses can use exploit vulnerable, visa workers against US ones which can demand better pay, job security, protections, etc. The US tech sector has been dumping workers like crazy over the last few years. For instance, it's believed that when FKA Twitter downsized its workforce, it overwhelmingly canned US workers, and mostly kept the more desperate visa workers who could be threatened into working harder for less.

But this will also then mean that workers can gain more power over companies, because it's harder for companies to exploit voters than it is for them to exploit immigrants. And worker leverage is great for the protection of workers.

The problem is company outside the US might not be able to fully use the talent and worker left in the US might simply not be good enough to be worth the trouble of better conditions.

Service industry and especially knowledge industry are very much not the same things as manufacturing, where one worker is more or less equivalent to any other worker. Because they need to come up with novel solution to problems, a worker who isn't good enough to properly understand the problem and come up with the solution is worthless, dozens of them can't fix the problem either, they'll just be worthless together, 9 women can't make a baby in one month kinda situation.

There's massive benefit to bringing the best and brightest together under one roof, because everyone is so specialized, they can't come up with the full solution by themselves, so scientist A might be able to come up with a clever solution, but they'll need engineer B to be able to build it. If engineer B isn't able, then the clever solution is useless, and the engineer without the scientist can't make much.

By limiting the movement of the best and brightest to go to the location with the other best and brightest, and the most advanced equipment, everyone suffer, even those outside the country.

 

[thebobmaster]

Everyone may suffer...but as long as the left suffers more, isn't it worth it, in the end?

 

[Agema]

By limiting the movement of the best and brightest to go to the location with the other best and brightest, and the most advanced equipment, everyone suffer, even those outside the country.

Firstly, in this era of telecommunications, there is less need than ever for everyone to be in the same place.

Secondly, no very large company has all its operations in one place. You think of most major multinationals, their operations, including R&D, are global. Part of this is chasing talent, because some talent is never going to move country - they like their home, want to be close to family, etc.

Thirdly in many ways there's simply no point pulling them together because if your R&D operation is large enough, even if you put them in one location there's too many of them to get any advantage from proximity to each other. For instance, imagine you lived in a town of 10,000 people (if you don't). How many would you know or meaningfully interact with? It would still only be a few hundred. The other 9000+ may as well be in a different town for all it would matter to you.

Finally, there's economics. The USA is an expensive place to employ white collar professionals. These firms can hire Europeans probably on about two-thirds to three-quarters of the cost, because salaries are lower. If we're talking about places like India, workers will then be even cheaper.

 

[Satinavian]

There's massive benefit to bringing the best and brightest together under one roof, because everyone is so specialized, they can't come up with the full solution by themselves, so scientist A might be able to come up with a clever solution, but they'll need engineer B to be able to build it. If engineer B isn't able, then the clever solution is useless, and the engineer without the scientist can't make much.

If there really was such a need to concentrate workers, you could just concentrate them outside the US.

 

[Chimpzy]

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115239044548033727

Oopsie, grandpa tweeting its DMs again

 

[bluegate]

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Yeah, yeah, but the democrats, they did a thing once and well, it's all their fault really.

 

[Silvanus]

During the Charlie Kirk memorial, Trump teased that "we may have found an answer to autism".

Reports are that RFK Jr. will announce that paracetamol (Tylenol to our American forumites) is the culprit.

There is no credible link, and paracetamol is one of the most widely recommended painkillers for pregnant women across the world. Some alternatives like ibuprofin actually have been linked to birth defects in later trimesters.

 

[Thaluikhain]

During the Charlie Kirk memorial, Trump teased that "we may have found an answer to autism".

Reports are that RFK Jr. will announce that paracetamol (Tylenol to our American forumites) is the culprit.

There is no credible link, and paracetamol is one of the most widely recommended painkillers for pregnant women across the world. Some alternatives like ibuprofin actually have been linked to birth defects in later trimesters.

Huh, I was expecting the announcement to be much worse than that.

 

[Satinavian]

There is no credible link, and paracetamol is one of the most widely recommended painkillers for pregnant women across the world. Some alternatives like ibuprofin actually have been linked to birth defects in later trimesters.

Seems like that would make it possible to mobilize the pro-life crows against RFK Jr.

But yes, Paracetamol is pretty important. Personally i would also not like it to get banned.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Seems like that would make it possible to mobilize the pro-life crows against RFK Jr.

I don't see that happening, pro-lifers are generally more just in it for the anti-choice.

 

[bluegate]

Great, now we'll have the crazy people not only waging a war against vaccines, but also against paracetamol.

 

[Gordon_4]

During the Charlie Kirk memorial, Trump teased that "we may have found an answer to autism".

Reports are that RFK Jr. will announce that paracetamol (Tylenol to our American forumites) is the culprit.

There is no credible link, and paracetamol is one of the most widely recommended painkillers for pregnant women across the world. Some alternatives like ibuprofin actually have been linked to birth defects in later trimesters.

 

[Silvanus]

Seems like that would make it possible to mobilize the pro-life crows against RFK Jr.

Definitely not; the comfort of the mother is immaterial to evangelical Christians. Its even in the Bible that birth is supposed to hurt.

 

[Agema]

There is no credible link, and paracetamol

To be fair, at least they picked something for which there was some supporting evidence.

But that's the problem with the stupid promise they made: in the end they would just have to pick something to blame, even if the case was feeble.

Definitely not; the comfort of the mother is immaterial to evangelical Christians. Its even in the Bible that birth is supposed to hurt.

"Chloroform is a decoy of Satan, apparently offering itself to bless women; but in the end it will harden society and rob God of the deep earnest cries which arise in time of trouble for help."

(A 19th century Scottish clergyman in response to the discovery of anaesthesia)