This would be a valid point if I said that was the solution. However, in the land of reality I said the solution was the greens, who don't advocate for those things.
Instead you come across like a clown who doesn't read what people write.
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Instead you come across like a clown who doesn't read what people write.
Most industries aren't anywhere near close to pure capitalism.
You think any kind of public healthcare in the US would get passed that would significantly lower healthcare costs and profits to companies?
Another thing that would've had Republicans firebombing the White House if Obama had done it: Trump is talking about using the Insurrection Act to bypass courts and force states to accept National Guard units that he sends.
In the US? Far too many Americans cannot fathom letting the government for businesses into low profits due to capitalism
This works everywhere else. You know it does as Trump has stated that what other countries do. It can work in the US. (Trump might unintentionally be doing this... with the cavet that there is always a yawning maw between what Trump says and reality.... so Im going to wait to see what actually happens)
And its really easy. You are absolutely right. There is no real capitalism going on in America. Capitalism is just an identity politics term for America. Its not a real thing that exists. Just collectively get over yourselves and deal with reality and you'll be on your way to cheaper healthcare
Did you know at our last election we ditched our Greens?
They continually abandoned fine or even good policy for the great policies that the Greens wanted. They continually voted against the public because they saw the left wing government as evil
All Ive heard from you guys is the exact same thing. Its probably why Greens in America struggle for fourth in Blue states. They don't live in reality and will abandon you and Americans for their own causes
Its why I keep asking WHY people don't vote for independents (US Greens.) Its because they don't do anything for Americans and thus not any better than the major parties
I'm trying to help you but all you guys have is blaming everyone else. So we will be here in 2028... and another decade... Like, I HOPE the Australian Greens can get their act together. But Im not interested making things worse just so they can score political points. Especially when those points are zero
Edit: I hope the Greens come back because I don't like Albo and think he's not doing a great job. I sure as shit never want Dutton in because Im not an idiot. I would like to take the peg off my nose
Why even bother citing the Insurrection Act? Just send the troops in. Unless the dissenting federal judge has his own army, who's going to stop it?
I realize public healthcare works in other countries but America would not do it like other countries and it would not work. Other countries decriminalize drugs and Portland does it and it doesn't work because they don't just copy-paste the policy, they take out all the teeth that actually makes it work. There is no way a public healthcare bill would pass Congress that wouldn't make the current healthcare situation worse. I'm against policies that make things worse.
Well the obvious massive point here is Australia greens =/= American greens.
As for why they don't do well, I do understand the reality of fptp voting and know who has the momentum, trying to shift it to the greens is the best I can do though. What that is not however is voting for Trump or his policies, and certainly any sort of shift in momentum is hurt when people start running out to tell everyone that there's only two parties and anyone who says otherwise is a secret supporter of one of those parties and how dare they and all sorts of nonsense I get out of you (and others). It makes me really not want to engage with you in any serious way because your default position is to ascribe a motive to me I don't have.
When you say the quiet part out loud: RacistAsshole.exe has encountered an error and must shut down.
Yep, that's good ol' Stephen Miller realizing he said that Trump has plenary (i.e. unrestricted) authority in regards to Title 10, and clamming up, probably thinking that reporters operate on echolocation and if he stays quiet, the interviewer will forget he's there.
(Note that nowhere in Title 10 is the President given plenary authority- in fact, the word appears nowhere in there- but Republicans will be entirely happy to pretend that it does if it means that they can have protestors shot.)
Also Trump didn't win the lawsuit Miller is referring to but why let the truth get in the way of a good march towards totalitarianism?
Yep, that's good ol' Stephen Miller realizing he said that Trump has plenary (i.e. unrestricted) authority in regards to Title 10, and clamming up, probably thinking that reporters operate on echolocation and if he stays quiet, the interviewer will forget he's there.
(Note that nowhere in Title 10 is the President given plenary authority- in fact, the word appears nowhere in there- but Republicans will be entirely happy to pretend that it does if it means that they can have protestors shot.)
Also Trump didn't win the lawsuit Miller is referring to but why let the truth get in the way of a good march towards totalitarianism?
This is a disturbing escalation, done by completely dishonest bad faith shit stirrers, oh all seemingly from turning point USA too, doing "politics the right way" eh Ezra? You dumbass kunt, dumbass fascist enabling/laundering kunt, this shit is not an easy watch but hey what's a little psychological torture between strangers?
I don't know of any shorter edits by anyone that anyone would want to even consider watching yet so that version will have to do. Raw dog it, as they say, or said, if they're not saying it no more I don't fucking know
It's probably the same but AP just in case
Brace selves for a whole lot of "look the dog ate all my evidence but trust me bro, I've spent my entire astroturfed career pushing this crap!"
I don't know of any shorter edits by anyone that anyone would want to even consider watching yet so that version will have to do. Raw dog it, as they say, or said, if they're not saying it no more I don't fucking know
It's probably the same but AP just in case
Brace selves for a whole lot of "look the dog ate all my evidence but trust me bro, I've spent my entire astroturfed career pushing this crap!"
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Barron set for top job as Trump takes control of platform used by 150m
President Donald Trump 's TikTok producer Jack Advent celebrated news of a deal to save the popular social media app TikTok.
Yes, via government intervention, a major media outlet has been handed over to a Trump loyalist (Ellison) at a knockdown price, and now they are floating a Trump scion for the board. No corruption here, folks!Excellent choice, Barron knows the cyber. On an unrelated note, what about Hunter's laptop?Barron set for top job as Trump takes control of platform used by 150m
President Donald Trump 's TikTok producer Jack Advent celebrated news of a deal to save the popular social media app TikTok.www.dailymail.co.uk
Ellison, we might note, has already taken control of CBS. Musk has FKA Twitter. Hm. Well, the Republicans are locking down control over the executive, and the legislature, and the judiciary, why not the media too? That's totally not a sogn of authoritarianism.
I don't remember anyone on this thread saying that. People have said that voting for a third party that isn't going to win is opting out of participating in deciding which of the parties with a chance is going to win, and that de facto supports whoever does win. Which is not the same thing, and occurs whether or not that was the goal of the voter.
That's a complicated way of saying what I said. There have been as well far more direct comparisons to what I said, but the posts themselves were before the election and I'm pretty sure in a different thread, so I'm not going to go dig it up, but I have in fact been called a secret Trump supporter more than once. As for Trunkage here in this thread, just the top of this very page is Trunkage asking why I prefer Trump's policy's to Biden's.
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I can think of three different users just off the top of my head who have either directly or indirectly called me a supporter of Trump for daring not to shut the hell up and get in line to vote for Democrats. I suppose maybe people don't pay that much attention to discussions unless they're directly involved in them but it is absolutely bonkers to say that people haven't been calling us Trump Supporters for voting for Third Party in this forum...
I will grant that if you aren't directly involved in an argument specifically, it's very easy to just scroll right past it.
People have not called you a Trump supporter.
But people have asigned some of the blame for putting Trump into office towards you.
There is a difference. In the first case people would assume you want Trump, which iircs no one ever has. In the second case people just assume that you don't really care about Trump either way.
I'm not going to waste a bunch of my time finding every instance of people calling me a Trump supporter (or indirectly calling me a Trump supporter saying that "A Vote for a Third Party is a Vote for Trump!!!!" bullshit but the really easy one to find is Worgen since as soon as the election ends, Worgen goes back to Brunch and stops being active in Current Events for the most part.
