Trump plans land strikes against alleged drug traffickers from Venezuela
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Red scare never left evidently
eh they haven't been hiding it well cos I remember trying to share the video of Jared Kushner talking at Harvard months before the election about his goal of exploiting juicy beach real-estate opportunities in the region available after - and this is his own words - the cleansing is done - is only mildly frustrating to see ppl still surprised by this outcome. only mildly
eh they haven't been hiding it well cos I remember trying to share the video of Jared Kushner talking at Harvard months before the election about his goal of exploiting juicy beach real-estate opportunities in the region available after - and this is his own words - the cleansing is done - is only mildly frustrating to see ppl still surprised by this outcome. only mildly
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That's not objective, you don't get to determine how people answer your questions. You could just apologize and move on really.
Even with Trump's $100,000 H-1B visa fee?
I think you laid out your position on ICE clear i.e. that it ought to be abolished. I however thought you were unnecessarily hostile when Silvanus specified that his question concerned how ICE is implemented, not whether it ought to exist. There are people who think the state ought not to exist but who still have thoughts on how it conducts its business, if it is to exist.
No, that's not how words work. They have meanings. If someone asks me whether or not i like apples, i cannot reply that i hate peaches, and consider the original question addressed.
I'm not going to apologise for the absurd overreaction that followed an innocuous question being asked a second time. Tippy himself has apparently moved on. You're the only one continuing this bizarre inquisition.
Am I not allowed to question you now? Is this a one way street? You can continuously ask a question that was answered over and over, but nobody can talk to you about it?
Hey, US healthcare is some of the best in the world if you can afford it. Our healthcare stats demonstrate clearly how few people that is.
If the USA is going to spend nearly a fifth of its GDP on healthcare, you'd hope at least someone is getting good quality care.
Just because it's harder doesn't mean it's impossible. Get an F1 visa, or get a Trump-friendly tech company to sponsor you.
I would rather be in debt than die waiting or be forced to take MAID.
We need more doctors, nurses, and fewer admin for billing, aka fewer gatekeepers.
If you aren't a few select groups that DJT favors, and you're a Republican or in the Trump admin or getting something from the Trump admin, you need serious help. Trump may have a some to many good ideas on the economy, foreign policy, and marketing, but he's not for all Americans.Red scare never left evidently
eh they haven't been hiding it well cos I remember trying to share the video of Jared Kushner talking at Harvard months before the election about his goal of exploiting juicy beach real-estate opportunities in the region available after - and this is his own words - the cleansing is done - is only mildly frustrating to see ppl still surprised by this outcome. only mildly
The US isn't a large frozen wasteland like most of Russia, so for a nation of its size, it's pretty good if you want to argue Canada, Australia, or Kazakhstan are better well, here, Canada lacks the diversity of environments of the US, same with Kazakhstan, and the Australian heartland near the east of the country is the only habitable place in Australia minus a few coastal cities, and possibly Tasmania.
I never said affordable hospital, I said top-notch hospital, Cleveland Clinic, Johns Hopkins, Ohio State Wexner Medical Center(Yes, that Wexner), etc. Why do you think the rich keep coming here from overseas to do medical care? The only thing I think we could do better on is abortion access, and possibly stem cell R&D.
There hasn't been a civil war in the US since the 1860s, minus the 1960s, which almost led to it. We are the kings of multiculturalism, immigration, and openness for a nation of our size.
And the gay bashings in the 1960s. And the anti-gay movements that really kicked off in the AIDS epidemic and have not really died down since. And Rodney King riots in 1992. And the Trayvon Martin shooting in 2012. And the Ferguson riots in 2014. You know, if you ignore all those, America is really open-minded. I mean, it's not like they are examining marriage equal rights or anything.
Canada and Russia have brutal winters that will get worse with climate change due to the fact that the extremes of temperature and weather climate change will increase on both ends. They don't have many places like the US, where it's not below freezing in the winter most of the time, most of Canada lives near the US border, and most of Russia lives either in European Russia or below a longitude where above that it's too cold to do anything other than mine stuff. And I count the number and size of navigable rivers, comfortable habitable land, agricultural land, and diversity of biomes as a resource. Again, apologies if I didn't talk about it.
American food is expensive, but it's diverse, and yes, it's not mainly fresh, but it's numerous, and we eat more than most people on the planet, to where we are making corn for fuel. The EU without international trade, or during, say, a drone blockade, would suffer more than the US. And unlike China, which can use R&D to restore land, the EU lacks the amount of land to do so, given its population-to-landmass ratio.
Most immigrants and refugees are fleeing persecution, low economic mobility, low opportunity, and conflict. Wars = opportunity cost, and somewhat less economic growth, especially when they happen in your country. Wars also force many people to be soldiers if it is a civil war, and ruin a country.
The most dynamic people are based on how much disposable income, both PPP and real per capita, and a high median income for a country of its size and population. Number of tech companies and startups, and high economic mobility. Also, most Americans have employer insurance unless you're like me, a bastard who is too cheap for it, right now. Also, I agree that the Netherlands and Singapore are likely more dynamic now, try putting many/tens of millions of immigrants from China, India, Nigeria, the Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Kenya, Mexico, Central America, Argentina, and Colombia into the Netherlands. As for the EU, they speak too many languages, so if you can't get a job in Germany, good luck getting one in France if you don't speak German and French, which wastes time because you have to learn multiple languages just to get by. In contrast, in the US, you know one or two and you're set for a career across the country, \most of the US speaks just English, and maybe Spanish. and China, Mandarin, and maybe English.
'In most other developed countries, people get along even better.' - That's laughable; there's a lot of nepotism, hidden racism, and active racism in terms of employment, and this is coming from a Chinese-American/American from Ohio. And their far right is a lot more nutty, their far right would leave the EU, whereas ours just redos on NAFTA, and calls it something else. Try becoming a minority CEO in the EU. It's hard to become rich/a multi-millionaire through business in the EU, even if you're a local; it would be even harder if you're a minority, much more than in the US.
Again, this is the same in most of the developed world. - Doubtful. In many American schools, they have holistic evaluations, not just single-minded test scores. If you don't meet them, you can apply to as many schools as you want, as long as you can pay the application fee, and I once had a friend transfer from a California community college to Berkeley with mid grades and test scores. Can I do the same in the UK at the University of Cambridge or at the London School of Economics? Likely not.
US healthcare is the laughing stock of the whole developed world. -Then why do rich people from other countries with a waitlist keep coming here?
Is this supposed to be a selling point ? I would have to search to find worse gouvernments in the developed world than the US currently has.
- France under every government but DeGaulle, the UK under every conservative government minus Blair, and David Cameron, Germany under Merkel, Sholtz. Israel under Netanyahu, Canada under Trudeau, which lasted a long time, and Harper. Australia under every conservative government. Japan under every.... LDP government minus Abe, including the current one. Italy under the current government, and during economic austerity, Greece under every government. Sweden in the 1970s. I am not even going to get into the Balkans. Hungary under Orban. Austria under every far-right anti-immigration government their low birthrates. Every South Korean Government, including Moon, and the one that tried to coup the government. Georgia is under a pro-Russian government, so right now. Turkey under AKP, before he decided to listen to his central bank, and increase interest rates. The current Colombian government. Taiwan under the current government for not taking defense seriously, to where even Pro-CPC Chinese people on a subreddit were laughing at them so hard they couldn't comprehend all unserious their government was. MBS's father for Saudi Arabia. Russia under every government since the USSR, other than Khrushchev. Okay, I am starting to get tired...
Unlike other countries that are stagnant in their race conversations, America is debating how we can solve systemic racism. You don't see that in Hungary, for example, or Poland.
Also, if the current admin kills Obfergfield vs Hodges, we(everyone left of the right) will get it back. They will not outlast the majority on this issue.
The US does need something more befitting its new, truer self, so they should tear all of it down and replace it with a presidential palace. Or move things to Mar-a-Lago.
That you have so much corn that you don't know what to do with it and put corn syrup in everything does not equal "good food". The EU is all about trade (way more than the US) has always had trade (even during cold war) and likely will continue to have trade. Furthermore it has better quality standards for food. Food in the EU is cheaper, fresher, healthier and way higher quality than in the US.
By far most immigrants don't flee war. There are not all that many wars in the world. And those who do flee war are mostly not the kind of high skilled specialists we were talking about. Also, as most of the world is, in fact, not in a war, that is not a special benefit of the US anyway.
The high income in the US is still balanced by starting out with ridiculous college debts high housing costs, the ever present danger of ruinous healthcare costs and the ever present danger of being fired on the spot. Oh, and housing doesn't come cheap either and usually adds even more debt. There isn't so much of the income that is really disposable.
And sure, the English language is a benefit for the US.
Nepotism and hidden/open racism do exist everywhere.
However, look at the Stuff the Trump family and other prominent families get away in the US. That would not have happened in most other places. Us is one of the leading powers in nepotism in the industrialized world. And i am pretty sure, its racism is on the worse side as well.
As for right wingers wanting to leave the EU : No one wants it anymore after brexit. And no matter the shitshow brexit was, Trumps tariff nonsense and breaking up every trade agreement the country had at once makes that even look sensible in comparison.
As for social mobility : Yes, that was once greater in the US. But that has been a thing of the past for quite a while.
The world economic forum puts social mobility in the US way behind the likes of Germany, France or Sweden, even behind the UK.
Becoming a minority CEO is easier in the EU than in the US.
The American dream is dead.
Don't know about the UK specifically but generally yes, transferring between universities in Europe is a common thing, even with middling grades. There are extensive regulations on each school which kind of course elsewhere counts as equivalent to which local course. You could even change your subject. It is quite common for the more rare specialisation to switch in later years to a university which focusses on it.
And in Germany there is the fact that people tried to avoid that whole "elite university" thing when rebuilding after the war and preferred a cluster of relatively equal ones with comparable reccources providing titles of equal value for later in life. That is somewhat watered down nowadays but universities still are funded by public money and mostly equally - you don't have rich kids schools with the expensive expert teachers. So changing schools is even more a nonissue.
They go to Europe as well. Depend on from where they are and what they need. We even have health related travel between Europe and the US in both directions. But on the whole, more super rich people go into the US.
And if you are not super rich, but only comfortably wealthy ? The EU is way better.
The AFD is still calling for leaving the EU, and many in the far right want it. I would rather be in debt than die on a waitlist. Being an educated minority is better in the US than in the EU, provided you're competent.
Also, Brexit > 8 years of Trump, tariffs can be reversed faster than Brexit, there is no law stating we must have a 100% tariff on Brazil, but if the UK wanted to rejoin their would be lengthy negotiations, and another vote.
Nepotism and hidden/open racism do exist everywhere. They are more pronounced for minorities in the EU than in the US. The coasts are more friendly to minorities vs Western, and higher-income Europe, and Middle America is way more friendly to minorities vs eastern Europe, given job opportunities.
Becoming a minority CEO is easier in the EU than in the US. - Not true for EU tech, finance, and startups vs US ones. Starting a restaurant doesn't count.
The American dream is dead. - And EU birthrates will kill it in the long run, far faster than the end of Pax Americana. Also, the American dream of owning a home isn't dead, just leave the top 5-10 metros, and get a remote job.
The world economic forum puts social mobility in the US way behind the likes of Germany, France or Sweden, even behind the UK. - Not for minorities, and those countries have a lower share of middle- and high-income jobs to pass around.
Also, a kid from the inner city can literally write Black Lives Matter repeatedly on a paper, and still get accepted into a good college, so our colleges are better, and offer better holistic evaluations, and seek to increase social mobility. In other countries, it's about test scores, grades, and extracurricular activities, but mostly test scores and grades.
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This conversation was not about solving all of America's problems though. This conversation is "why do so many people move to the US." Fragmented society is a problem worthy of solving, but the solution is the same as what we're trying to say is a reason to move here: you put people in a room together and they get along. When you interact with any random stranger, kindness and hospitality are the default expectations, that is a draw towards being here.
Tangent: I was in a factory the other day that has a fairly large hispanic population working there. It's in Hazleton, PA, a city that everyone agrees kinda sucks, so people moved away from it, but the industries survived, leaving space for lots of immigrants to live and work there. The plant is fully bilingual in its signage, every sign on every wall is in English and Spanish. There was a spot in the warehouse with Gaylords (which are large, pallet-sized cardboard boxes with open tops, named for the Gayloard Container Company that popularized them), and on the wall above, it had the spot marked in both languages. And while I understand and appreciate the individual elements that lead to this result, part of me could not help but giggle at the wall signage reading:
Gaylords
Gaylords
Like it's a proper noun, it's not going to translate to different languages, but I read that and it still kinda feels like it says "yes... that's actually what they're called... sigh"
The AFD is not calling to leave the EU. They actually never wanted to. They did want to leave the EURO and many still do. Many of them also want to leave NATO. But as the EU has both non-NATO members and others keeping their own currency, that is not the same thing as leaving the EU. The AfD does want to reform/replace the EU into some purely common market with strong external borders, but they never wanted to go alone.
You are still wrong about social mobility for minorities. And yes, even in tech and finance. I mean, have a look at the recently famous Biontech as an example. And for the full picture, well, i refer to the world economic forum again.
The only thing is that the US does have more startups. Because being an employee in the US is less enticing and running a business is easier. But all those startups don't result in meaningfully more innvovation, when measured in patents etc.
A black kid here can also write Black Life Matters on papers several times, they could even start a local Antifa club and openly advertise and recruit for it. And no one would even get the idea that this could somehow limit university access (we don't do colleges. it is school -> university). That you you even try to bring this up as a point shows how much behind in equality the US is. That kid would also not need generational wealth to get the best education possible.
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