Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates
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You're mixing it up on purpose. The reason is to disarm a regime that develops weapons and arms terrorists with a stated goal of delivering death to America. The timing comes from the belief that now is a better opportunity to succeed, partially because of the actions of Iran killing its own people.
The school bombing was obviously an accident, you cant judge motives by accidents.
The most powerful country and persistent aggressor between the US and Iran... is the USA.
Iran's behaviour exists in the context of US and US-backed aggression and manipulation, from a regime US manipulation inadvertently created. And here you are, advocating another round of death and destruction in the hope it might be "ultimately be worth the pain caused". And if this one doesn't work, you or someone like you will cheer on another after that, and on and on. As long as Iranians continue breeding, you can carry on slaughtering them in the hope eventually something might turn out better.
This is the sort of analysis I'd expect from a ten-year-old.
Would Iran be hostile to America if America hadn't repeatedly attacked it?
How many Americans has Iran attacked without provocation? Basically none. Iran says death to America, but doesn't actually kill Americans. America does not say death to Iran (although...), but keeps on killing Iranians!
Iran backs Hezbollah and Hamas and the Houthis, who overwhelmingly do not kill Americans. American allies, sometimes. But they are not killing American allies to attack America, Iran backs them to generate influence in the Middle East. That is about a regional power struggle, chiefly against Saudi Arabia. (That's why Saudi Arabia is urging the USA to flatten Iran behind the scenes.)
This is the sort of analysis I'd expect from a ten-year-old.
Does this question matter? Is fairness the pertinent question here?
He would say stuff that human beings used to manipulate many other human beings to their desired effect.
Source: I am one too.
IRGC members were/are able to go to and operate military bases in Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, and even Yemen. If the US is an empire which I argue we are, and given China has a base in Djibouti they are too, than Iran is an empire alongside Russia, the UK, and France.
It doesn't matter if they have consent of the government, an empire is an empire. The only reason China, and the US don't like that term is because both like... many empires want to play their hand well, and have their cake and eat it too so they, and many others call it different things to avoid moral scrutiny. But I would argue that scrutiny is getting less salient as time goes on. China for example should have intervene in the civil war in Myanmar/Burma which would have given them practice for Taiwan, the US overdid it, and should have let Arab spring take care of Saddam, and the North Alliance deal with the Taliban. They also should have dealt with Cuba as soon as Putin was bogged down in Ukraine. Trump is overdoing it in Iran with a stupid ground invasion, but arguably extorting Ukraine for rare earths was a good move in the short, and median term, even if it's bad in the long term however like many realists state... we are all dead in the long term. I prefer the long-term view, but the long term view isn't popular in realism.
Saddam Hussein was long dead before the Arab spring started. Though, yes, there was no reason to invade, especially not when Afghanistan (which was justifiable-ish) was ongoing. There is no reason to do anything with Cuba, beyond malice.
It's called geography, if I can put long range drones in Cuba I can target the entire eastern seaboard, you may not think it's a good idea, but the DOD, and the American Congress do not want a anti-US Cuba for this reason.
And yet the US government has done an awful lot for many years to make Cuba anti the US.
That doesn't matter, what matters is geography and the tyranny of distance or rather the lack thereof.
You said something was obvious; it's a choice to believe the United States government and disregard Iran, not something obvious.
Here's the thing: we know a school got bombed, we have lots of images of it, we have the precise location it was, we have footage of it being hit, I would not be surprised if the name of every child killed was available somewhere. If the US or Israel bombs a school (something that is pretty much objectively bad for the war effort) that is the level of coverage one would expect about the event.
Then we have one guy with an obvious interest in demonizing and demoralizing the US efforts claiming that >599 other schools have also been hit, and your take is that you could choose to believe that statistic and think it is a designed plan to target school children.
You cannot expect us to believe you are that dumb.
It is not "obvious" that he is fabricating anything; it is not "obvious" that the Western media will cover every single school bombing by the Zionist terror regime or the United States in the same way; it is not "obvious" that the school in Minab being targeted was an accident, just like it was never "obvious" that the demolitions of all the schools and universities in Gaza perpetrated by the Zionist demons were "accidental".
You can expect us to believe you are that dumb.
This line doesn't work against someone who isn't deliberately spreading nonsense Twitter propaganda the way you are.