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Oh look, it's that thing Disney could be doing if they weren't so scared of not looking utterly bland.

 
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Oh look, it's that thing Disney could be doing if they weren't so scared of not looking utterly bland.

What the fuck! I didn't notice it was set in the Philippines, I assumed it was some Latin American movie until a jeepney came roaring in. Is this what it feels like to be pandered to? Interesting that they made them Incredibly lesbian coded, I wonder if they'll actually follow through with that. It's an open secret that all-girls are chock full of lesbians, so it would be very controversial if they portrayed a lesbian relationship.

Anyway, animation looks gorgeous. I just hope the voice acting is up to par, apparently a lot of local actors are involved and that historically has not really worked out.
 
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The Furious, it's basically The Raid 4. I want it now!



Man on Fire (not a remake of either films nor book)
 

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Stylizing the characters after the manga makes it an easy improvement over Stand Alone Complex. Horrible era, that was. One of the worst. By that point they had already shaved so much off faces, removed too many lines. She was shapelier in the manga and especially Oshii's movie. But Oshii stripped away Kusanagi's personality and the sense of humor, so that the characters could stand still barely looking at each other. Also don't understand why she had to be sexless in the adaptations. Even ignoring the lesbian sex scene, she had a boyfriend in the manga. All we got in Stand Alone Complex was her offering to fuck the boy in the hotel, that little fucking idiot.



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Did not cherry-pick; just checked two random episodes to remind myself, since Google Images and the like are useless the last ten years.

Was also shocked by how poor the animation is. Aramaki stayed still for so long in one scene. Early digital compounded the crappiness of cheaply made anime.

That big jacket over high cut leotard is a more horrid outfit than I remembered. She looks like a sex doll. A figurine that a fat ANIME CHARACTER would have on his shelf. I always hated it. She looked snazzy in the manga, and there was more (appropriate-for-the-genre) punk in the streets, since it was published closer to the 1980s than any of the adaptations.

Too bad it appears to be a retelling of the manga. But I realize I'm talking about Japanese animation, which is praised when it copies its source material exactly while looking worse because lines are expensive and they can't afford to animate ("bring to life" with movement).
 
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Stylizing the characters after the manga makes it an easy improvement over Stand Alone Complex. Horrible era, that was. One of the worst. By that point they had already shaved so much off faces, removed too many lines. She was shapelier in the manga and especially Oshii's movie. But Oshii stripped away Kusanagi's personality and the sense of humor, so that the characters could stand still barely looking at each other. Also don't understand why she had to be sexless in the adaptations. Even ignoring the lesbian sex scene, she had a boyfriend in the manga. All we got in Stand Alone Complex was her offering to fuck the boy in the hotel, that little fucking idiot.



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Did not cherry-pick; just checked two random episodes to remind myself, since Google Images and the like are useless the last ten years.

Was also shocked by how poor the animation is. Aramaki stayed still for so long in one scene. Early digital compounded the crappiness of cheaply made anime.

That big jacket over high cut leotard is a more horrid outfit than I remembered. She looks like a sex doll. A figurine that a fat ANIME CHARACTER would have on his shelf. I always hated it. She looked snazzy in the manga, and there was more (appropriate-for-the-genre) punk in the streets, since it was published closer to the 1980s than any of the adaptations.

Too bad it appears to be a retelling of the manga. But I realize I'm talking about Japanese animation, which is praised when it copies its source material exactly while looking worse because lines are expensive and they can't afford to animate ("bring to life" with movement).
Calling Stand Alone Complex poorly animated is a red hot take.
 
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Calling Stand Alone Complex poorly animated is a red hot take.
No, it isn't. Very few anime are an exception to the rule, and although TV shows suffer the worst, movies are guilty too. Even Oshii's 1995 Ghost in the Shell movie has characters standing still for exceedingly long durations and regularly relies on panning. Akira is the only production that I know of that has lip sync instead of flapping. (But it's the best animated movie from there.) Stand Alone Complex is pretty inconsistent.
 

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No, it isn't. Very few anime are an exception to the rule, and although TV shows suffer the worst, movies are guilty too. Even Oshii's 1995 Ghost in the Shell movie has characters standing still for exceedingly long durations and regularly relies on panning. Akira is the only production that I know of that has lip sync instead of flapping. (But it's the best animated movie from there.) Stand Alone Complex is pretty inconsistent.
I watched a fair amount of anime in the early to mid 2000s, seriously I think you may need to remember this show came out in 2002. Stand Alone Complex may utilise the standard industry cheats of the medium but its animation is still crisp, fluid, very detailed and vibrantly coloured. Does it have mistakes and fuck ups? Of course it does; it was made by humans and even the most ardent taskmasters will let one through to the keeper occasionally. It still kicks the arse of most recent stuff from both a quality and design standpoint.
 
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I watched a fair amount of anime in the early to mid 2000s, seriously I think you may need to remember this show came out in 2002. Stand Alone Complex may utilise the standard industry cheats of the medium but its animation is still crisp, fluid, very detailed and vibrantly coloured. Does it have mistakes and fuck ups? Of course it does; it was made by humans and even the most ardent taskmasters will let one through to the keeper occasionally. It still kicks the arse of most recent stuff from both a quality and design standpoint.
This is the same dude that cries and constantly being nostalgic blind and fals for grifter bullshit. I don't even like SAC, and I know you are more right about the anime than he ever could.
 

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I watched a fair amount of anime in the early to mid 2000s, seriously I think you may need to remember this show came out in 2002. Stand Alone Complex may utilise the standard industry cheats of the medium but its animation is still crisp, fluid, very detailed and vibrantly coloured. Does it have mistakes and fuck ups? Of course it does; it was made by humans and even the most ardent taskmasters will let one through to the keeper occasionally. It still kicks the arse of most recent stuff from both a quality and design standpoint.
I wouldn't know. I don't watch new anime, except maybe to shit on the latest Makoto Shinkai or Mamoru Hosoda movie. Someone showed me a scene of a crowd to demonstrate Stand Alone Complex's good animation. I joked that it was 30 percent of the whole budget for the show and another 30 percent was used for the three action scenes between the twenty hours of talking. The animation is really inconsistent, or so I conclude from the two episodes I randomly reminded myself with.

Not that talkies have to be dull. Love The Sopranos and The Wire, and Legend of the Galactic Heroes has great characterization. But Stand Alone Complex, eh, I don't know. Watched it a few times, beginning in 2005, more the first series than the second. Last attempted full viewing of both series was maybe fourteen years ago. I got bored somewhere in 2nd Gig and wondered what the hell I saw in it during the prior viewing. Didn't finish it. I prefer the manga and then the movie.

You know what else? Yoko Kanno is overrated. From that era, give me Trigun and Lain OSTs over Escaflowne and Cowboy Bebop. Baby's first jazz riff. Her work on SAC was no better. I had all those soundtracks: Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne, Stand Alone Complex, Wolf's Rain, Darker than Black... I discovered real music in my early adulthood and deleted all her work by the time I was twenty-two. Maybe younger. Kept Trigun, Lain and Akira's soundtracks, though.
 
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I thought the original angle presented in this trailer of looking at German society before Hitler's rise sounded a lot more interesting but obviously it went to discussing present day America under Trump. I suspect the perception of this documentary will mostly reflect the person's opinion of the current administration.
 
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I thought the original angle presented in this trailer of looking at German society before Hitler's rise sounded a lot more interesting but obviously it went to discussing present day America under Trump. I suspect the perception of this documentary will mostly reflect the person's opinion of the current administration.
Well I'll be damned; Michael Moore is still around.
 
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