US 2024 Presidential Election

Recommended Videos

Seanchaidh

Elite Member
Legacy
Mar 21, 2009
6,533
3,914
118
Country
United States of America

The US' economy had one of the best recoveries of all the first world countries post covid.
"post covid" 🥴

anyway, the US economy is one of the largest economies in the world and will tend to quickly recover from disruptions, especially ones that are imposed by public health measures rather than liquidity crises or other more organic features of the economy. whether that recovery will be of much relevance to the mass of people is another question. It doesn't have the growth rate of China or the life expectancy of Cuba, but it does have hundreds of years of industrial development to get through de-industrializing before becoming an irrelevant service economy for the comfort of a finance sector that owns things in other countries. (yes, I'm exaggerating, but less so than should be comfortable)
 

Phoenixmgs

The Muse of Fate
Legacy
Apr 3, 2020
11,073
929
118
w/ M'Kraan Crystal
Gender
Male
I genuinely thought things couldn't get any worse. I couldn't have anticipated the ICE raids, the Israel-Iran conflict, and any other BS Trump is pulling.
Why is it when the democrats do the same thing but in the opposite direction, it is OK but when you simply just get an equal and opposite reaction (policy change) from the republicans, it is the worse thing ever? The democratic immigration policy of letting people in the country is the reason there are the ICE raids. They're both equally bad.
 

FakeSympathy

Elite Member
Legacy
Jun 8, 2015
4,434
4,337
118
Seattle, WA
Country
US
Why is it when the democrats do the same thing but in the opposite direction, it is OK but when you simply just get an equal and opposite reaction (policy change) from the republicans, it is the worse thing ever? The democratic immigration policy of letting people in the country is the reason there are the ICE raids. They're both equally bad.
I was comparing to Trump’s 2016 term. But I condemn any stupid decisions regardless of the party, especially when it affects many people.
 

Phoenixmgs

The Muse of Fate
Legacy
Apr 3, 2020
11,073
929
118
w/ M'Kraan Crystal
Gender
Male
"Why is it when someone commits murder, it's terrible, but when someone else saves a life it's somehow ok?!"
Being on either spectrum of immigration is bad.

I was comparing to Trump’s 2016 term. But I condemn any stupid decisions regardless of the party, especially when it affects many people.
I'm saying that if Biden didn't open the borders like he did, you wouldn't have ICE raids during Trump v2.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FakeSympathy

Agema

Overhead a rainbow appears... in black and white
Legacy
Mar 3, 2009
10,984
7,945
118
the lukeworm responses to southern borders...

... I couldn't have anticipated the ICE raids
I would suggest to you that ICE raids are exactly the sort of next level you should expect if you think Biden's "lukewarm" policies were insufficient.

In a sense, I don't entirely blame voters, they are often served exceptionally poorly by politicians and media. An immigration surge such as happened 2020-2023 could be viewed as akin to a natural disaster, or recession. It couldn't have been prevented, and no matter how well the government responds, what the government can't do is make the problem magically disappear. Sometimes you just need to accept it will be shit for a while.

But opportunists would rather exaggerate the problem for their own political benefit, even if unfair, unreasonable or disproportionate. And that's why you end up with stupid or objectionable policies like expensive and pointless 2000-mile border walls or your cities terrorised by paramilitary bully-boys.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FakeSympathy

Hades

Elite Member
Mar 8, 2013
3,251
2,494
118
Country
The Netherlands
Why is it when the democrats do the same thing but in the opposite direction, it is OK but when you simply just get an equal and opposite reaction (policy change) from the republicans, it is the worse thing ever? The democratic immigration policy of letting people in the country is the reason there are the ICE raids. They're both equally bad.
Well firstly because the Democrats aren’t the ultra welcoming coombaya singing party you seem to believe they are. So brownshirts aren’t an “equal and opposite” reaction

There are in fact practically no mainstream party that even are those coombaya singing parties. All mainline parties in about every country wants to limit migration. What’s up for debate is whether the migrants should be treated as subhuman vermin or not.

But ultimately not being Maga level hostile to brown people does not deserve violent brownshirts as a reaction. Especially not if they also kill people
 

Chimpzy

Simian Abomination
Legacy
Escapist +
Apr 3, 2020
14,715
11,828
118
First time for everything, I guess.

Buuut, if Trump were to burst into flame from reading it, Arc of the Covenant style, I swear I will convert to Catholicism.
 

Hades

Elite Member
Mar 8, 2013
3,251
2,494
118
Country
The Netherlands
First time for everything, I guess.

Buuut, if Trump were to burst into flame from reading it, Arc of the Covenant style, I swear I will convert to Catholicism.
Oh dear. He’ll have to make it seem like he can read. Let’s hope the Bible isn’t upside down
 

Agema

Overhead a rainbow appears... in black and white
Legacy
Mar 3, 2009
10,984
7,945
118
First time for everything, I guess.
The typical penance of the rich and famous, which is to do something showy that costs them effectively nothing.
 

Dirty Hipsters

This is how we praise the sun!
Legacy
Feb 7, 2011
9,039
3,716
118
Country
'Merica
Gender
3 children in a trench coat
First time for everything, I guess.

Buuut, if Trump were to burst into flame from reading it, Arc of the Covenant style, I swear I will convert to Catholicism.
My money is that it's going to be an AI Trump reading the bible. Trump can barely read and the bible has a lot of names and words that are difficult to pronounce if you've never seen them before, and we all know that Trump has never opened a bible.
 

The Rogue Wolf

Stealthy Carnivore
Legacy
Nov 25, 2007
18,384
11,463
118
Stalking the Digital Tundra
Gender
✅

meiam

Elite Member
Dec 9, 2010
4,210
2,221
118
I mean, Hegseth gave a sermon where he quoted pulp fiction fake bible passage, so its entirely possible Trump will just read something else.

Otherwise, it might be the first time his follower actually hear the bible, wonder if they'll call it woke?
 

tstorm823

Elite Member
Legacy
Aug 4, 2011
8,559
1,009
118
Country
USA
I mean, Hegseth gave a sermon where he quoted pulp fiction fake bible passage.
To clarify, cause I'm sure everyone here has seen this story, and likely few have seen the actual story:

1) The lost air force officer was religious, sending the message "God is Good" as his signal that he survived the crash.
2) The search and rescue team that went to bring him back (according to Hegseth) modified the Pulp Fiction prayer to reflect their mission ("The path of the downed aviator", " And you will know My call sign is Sandy-1", etc.)
3) Hegseth recited that version "CSAR 25:17" (Combat Search And Rescue), with the preface that it was not from the Bible and only a reference to the Bible. He said it while honoring the Rescue Team.

He did not state Pulp Fiction anywhere, so it is possible that he is ignorant of that connection, but he was quoting the variation the rescue team made while honoring them. The "Hegseth quoted Pulp Fiction thinking it was the Bible" narrative is approximately as real as when they said JD Vance has sex with couches.
 

BrawlMan

Lover of beat'em ups.
Legacy
Mar 10, 2016
34,792
14,267
118
Detroit, Michigan
Country
United States of America
Gender
Male