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Stargate (1994)

I have seen this one before of course but I decided to watch Stargate SG-1, the TV show. I feel like it's the one major 90s/00s sci-fi show I skipped and since I'm nostalgic for that style of TV, I'd give it a whirl.

For those that don't know, Stargate took the whole aliens built the pyramids idea and turned it into a Hollywood movie. This is the break-out film for disaster schlock maestro Roland Emmerich (Independance Day, 2012, Moonfall, and other such nonsense). James Spader is the suspiciously pretty nerd and Kurt Russell is the disappointingly stoic military dude.

Dude is the appropriate word here- military dudes, evil god dudes, slave rebellion dudes. Women are incidental and decorative in the Stargate world (one old lady sends the dude across the galaxy to earn a pretty young woman in the end).

I mostly remember the slave rebellion part of the movie, less the exposition which took longer than I remember. Maybe I was watching a director's cut, I dunno. None of it is particularly interesting, it's like the History Channel. So many tropes- the scientist that nobody believes, the military dudes that don't take him seriously, the primitive people that need guiding by our heroes like children.
The villain was pretty cool- interesting choice to have a very young boyish looking man embody the spirit of an ancient and cruel alien overlord.

Honestly the most disappointing thing about the movie is that Kurt Russell didn't get to chew enough scenery. Why cast one of the most fun actors and not let him have any fun? There's one scene where he tries to communicate with the locals and it's the best scene.
I suspect not letting Russell have fun is because at the start of the movie, he's suicidal because his son accidentally killed himself with his service weapon. In fact his first scene as I recall it, is him sitting in his son's bedroom holding the offending pistol in his hand and contemplating using it on himself. This plot point is one that the show keeps pretty consistent and more than a few heart-wrenching scenes in the early seasons revolve around it. That said, Richard Dean Anderson is amazingly fun as Show!O'Neill.

The show has a little fun with Kurt Russell's character, though. See, in the movie Jack O'Neil is spelt with one L, but in the show its spelled O'Neill - two L's - and since the show runs on broad strokes rather than exacting continuity, whenever Jack on the show spells his name, he emphasises the two L's because there's another guy who spells it with one L and he's got no sense of humour.
 

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Bonnie White become Bonnie Wright in there, and should have been Bonnie Hunt.
 

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I suspect not letting Russell have fun is because at the start of the movie, he's suicidal because his son accidentally killed himself with his service weapon. In fact his first scene as I recall it, is him sitting in his son's bedroom holding the offending pistol in his hand and contemplating using it on himself. This plot point is one that the show keeps pretty consistent and more than a few heart-wrenching scenes in the early seasons revolve around it. That said, Richard Dean Anderson is amazingly fun as Show!O'Neill.
Well sure, O'Neill had that tragic dead son thing going. And all it added was to make him really mad when the kid grabbed the gun, which was supposed to be this emotional moment but I laughed because then why leave the gun laying around so carelessly.
This is one of those action movie things where they just add some tragic element clumsily to put it there for the sake of putting there.

One observation about the entertainment biz going around that is sitting in my gut like a bad meal is from people who are defending AI by observing that so much popular entertainment already feels like it's AI. Obviously I disagree with the AI assholes and I hate it but I can't deny that point. And Kurt Russell in Stargate and his dead kid feels like "Claude, add tragic element to space action guy in my script."
 

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Johnny Novgorod

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This movie was savaged by critics when it came out so I thought I was in for a plane crash. Lo and behold it's basically an alright version of Get Out and Neon Demon, recalibrating its allegory of exploitation and cannibalism for the meatheaded world of sports. It's super obvious and excessively repetitive - you never feel the situation changing or escalating so much as the surreal visuals merely being ratched up - but it's basically well shot, well acted and kinda creepy and gnarly where it counts.

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This movie was savaged by critics when it came out so I thought I was in for a plane crash. Lo and behold it's basically an alright version of Get Out and Neon Demon, recalibrating its allegory of exploitation and cannibalism for the meatheaded world of sports. It's super obvious and excessively repetitive - you never feel the situation changing or escalating so much as the surreal visuals merely being ratched up - but it's basically well shot, well acted and kinda creepy and gnarly where it counts.

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I didn't hate this movie, but it felt like it wanted to be saying something in the same way as Get Out, but didn't have nearly the competence of script writing to do so beyond a surface level. It was basically the screenwriting equivalent of this.

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One of those comfort food movies. Just fun and silly mystery stuff all around.
 
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Death of a Unicorn

A24 horror comedy that isn't particularly scary or funny. It's basically a feature length adaptation of that part in Jurassic Park 2 where they bring in a wounded baby T-Rex and mom and dad T-Rex come knocking, only it's a dead unicorn in a mansion and the movie wastes a lot of time speculating on the ways the assholes are going to profit off it. Everything about it feels pre-fabricated, from the grumpy teen (TikTok's Jenna Ortega) mourning mom and hating on aloof dad (Paul Rudd) to the glib eat-the-rich charade headed by none other than Richard E. Grant, essentially doing Saltburn again. It also swings big for an emotional climax that is so unearned and feels so at odds with the rest of the movie that it ends up undermining what little works about it.

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Interesting you refer to Jenna Ortega as being from TikTok rather than her much more well known roles in Scream 5/6 or Wednesday.
 
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About a couple young girls that climb a rusted out decommissioned tv tower (based on the real KXTV/KOVR Tower in California) as some sort of therapy over the death of their husband/fuck boy. The film version of it was reconstructed at about 100ft tall near a 2,000ft cliff base to give the illusion of its true height while cutting down on cgi costs and filming challenges in post. Despite the numerous flaws and patently stupid behavior of the leads, cursing my screen several times, it was worth a watch. It was a stupid, stupid movie barely saved by some decent filming and the curiosity of just how the fuck it will end. I called it overall at about the half hour mark, but it at least took a different path getting there.
 
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Hurry up Tomorrow, 2/10

Had another one of my bad movie nights, and this was the first one we watched. It's a companion piece film to The Weeknd's album of the same name, and it's (nominally) about a fictionalized version of The Weeknd - played by The Weeknd himself no less - struggling with his pressures, insecurities and anxieties while an obsessive superfan, played by Jenna Ortega, makes her way to one of his concerts to work her way to and ultimately kidnap him.

Boy it is baaaaad. It's practically the Platonic ideal of a pretentious, self-important masturbatory art piece about a suffering artist, and oh how they suffer, and of the trappings of a fabulous celebrity lifestyle do nothing to alleviate his inner demons and blah blah blah. It's endlessly navel-gazey, repeating several beats verbatim, interspersed with basically music videos, and occasional inserts of pretentious, abstract hodgepodgery. The lighting in this movie deserves a special mention, because basically every scene regardless of setting looks the same: golden edges surrounding pitch-black shadows. That might sound like an artistic vision, but the result is that you can barely see what the fuck is even happening, because at any given moment at least 50% of the screen is just black. All of this spectacular wankery culminates in a scene where Jenna Ortega hogties The Weeknd to the bed and plays several of his own songs at him and explains what they mean to her. You really have to see it to believe it.

I enjoyed it for how stuck up its own ass and convinced of its artistry it was, but I could tell my friends lost patience with it really early on.

The Astrologer, 3/10

I talked about this briefly before, but having now effectively seen it three times, I can finally give more concrete thoughts on it. It's a 1975 film made by a guy who never made anything else and that was considered lost media until this decade. It's a spectacularly incoherent mess about an astrologer who makes it big in the show business but then falls from grace. That's about the best plot summary I can give, because this movie is basically just a series of sideplots that start and then never go anywhere. Well over a third of this movie is spent on an Indiana Jones -esque sidequest to explain where the titular character got his money, and it doesn't affect anything nor is it ever mentioned. In fact "doesn't affect anything and is never mentioned" about sums the whole movie up: a sequence of irrelevant tangents that have nothing to do with, and definitely do not build on one another. Characters are introduced and then forgotten about within one scene. Dialogue alludes to things that never come up again. It's so aggressively "tell, don't show" that it's beyond parody.

It's not funny-bad in the usual way aside from the crappy acting, because it moves at such a pace that it can trick you into thinking that it's going somewhere. But it's not.
 
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Had another one of my bad movie nights, and this was the first one we watched. It's a companion piece film to The Weeknd's album of the same name, and it's (nominally) about a fictionalized version of The Weeknd - played by The Weeknd himself no less - struggling with his pressures, insecurities and anxieties while an obsessive superfan, played by Jenna Ortega, makes her way to one of his concerts to work her way to and ultimately kidnap him.

Boy it is baaaaad. It's practically the Platonic ideal of a pretentious, self-important masturbatory art piece about a suffering artist, and oh how they suffer, and of the trappings of a fabulous celebrity lifestyle do nothing to alleviate his inner demons and blah blah blah. It's endlessly navel-gazey, repeating several beats verbatim, interspersed with basically music videos, and occasional inserts of pretentious, abstract hodgepodgery. The lighting in this movie deserves a special mention, because basically every scene regardless of setting looks the same: golden edges surrounding pitch-black shadows. That might sound like an artistic vision, but the result is that you can barely see what the fuck is even happening, because at any given moment at least 50% of the screen is just black. All of this spectacular wankery culminates in a scene where Jenna Ortega hogties The Weeknd to the bed and plays several of his own songs at him and explains what they mean to her. You really have to see it to believe it.
You first paragraph means I was sorta imagining the second paragraph before I read it.
 

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Cleaner

Die Hard but it's a lady window cleaner. And I love that she can't just be a window cleaner: like everything else these days it needs to tie back to childhood trauma. So the movie opens up with lil window cleaner monkeying around the kitchen and climbing out the window when dad gets home and he's in one of his violent moods. Imagine how much better Die Hard would be if it opened with kid John McClane playing cops and robbers... and then spent the majority of Die Hard hanging in the one spot outside Nakatomi Plaza, not engaging with the action or indeed being a factor in the terrorist takeover outside of getting the cops' attention. Cause that's what happens. Fuck spoilers, Daisy Ridley only enters the building in the last 20 minutes of the movie, takes 10 minutes to kill 4 or 5 bad guys (most of them have killed each other by this point) and that's it. What a wash.

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The Great Flood (2025)

This disaster flict follows a mother and her son trying to survive an apocalyptic flood that is destroying South Korea.

Now, most of the disaster flict made in Korea aren't too different from the ones made in US; Boring characters being thrown around, dumb decision-making, and the few decent characters that you actually come to love and care for dying in the end.

Thankfully, this movie only checks some of that list, as the main character is smart and kind of a badass. But then that gets balanced out with the movie featuring the most bratty, annoying, useless 6-year-old kid that I had ever seen on the big screen. I am fully aware kids can be dumb, but this kid doesn't seem to distinguish a daily life vs a literal life or death situation.

However, there is a plot twist on the second half; And I honestly did not see this coming. Let's just say there is a reason why this film's genre is considered both "Disaster" and "sci-fi". It's such a big twist, you won't believe how it ends.

Still doesn't save it from the annoying kid actor (Amazing performance, all things considered), too much CGI depioction of flooding, and some explanation that does not make sense.

7/10
 
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Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, 5/10

Watched this to see if the two later movies of the trilogy worked better as one giant film and no, they don't. This is even more of a mess than Chest: there's even more characters, backstabbing, switching allegiances, deals and motivations this time around. No wonder I could never keep track of it as a kid, because I really couldn't as an adult either. This started filming without a finished script and boy fucking howdy does it feel like it. It feels like it's been Frankenstein'd from at least three different drafts with a whole lot of random bits they filled for whatever reason. For some reason Sao Feng believes Elizabeth to be Calypso's vessel, and it never goes anywhere and is never brought up again after he croaks. Davy Jones' Locker is apparently supposed to be some sort of ironic purgatory where you suffer the worst thing you've done over and over, but all we get out of it is Jack living with copies of himself and some stone crabs. What was the ironic hell supposed to be again? It legit feels like the script read in parts things like "Jack Sparrow doing goofy stuff", "action scene" or "Davy Jones doing stuff".

There's way too much lore that's only brought up in this film to feel in any way earned. It's all convoluted, muddled and messy. I'm still not sure what the fuck Calypso's deal was supposed to be at the end. Was she helping the pirates in some way? Because all she did was make a big whirlpool. Things like the Brethren Court would have felt way more satisfying if they'd been brought up in previous films, but it's so clear that they were only made up after scripting Chest finished.

So what's left? Well, it's still a visual feast. I realized that not only do these visual effects, CGI included, hold up, they still look spectacular. The combination of the lavish sets, costumes and locations make this genuinely one of the best-looking films of the 2000s. The action's fun if, as with Chest quite convoluted, and Jack and Barbossa are just a delightful pair together. It's just that the movie is so slapdash and overstuffed that it ultimately just barely limps over the finish line somewhat satisfyingly.

Obsession, 8/10, possibly 9/10

This is the most recent horror darling with a theme that we seem to get with astonishing regularity these days. This time directed by former Youtube skit comedian Curry Barker, and centered around relationships. The setup is incredibly straightforward: shy, awkward guy really likes a girl he works with, and makes a wish with a McGuffin that she would love him more than anything else in the world. A finger on the monkey's paw curls, and we have a movie.

It's incredible. I honesly can't tell the last time I was involuntarily holding my breath without realizing it in a movie, but this sure is the latest. It is so uncomfortable from beginning to end: initially from the awkwardness and discomfort, and then progressing into full-blown horror and unbearable tension. There are so many moments where I was actively cringing in my seat not because of something that was happening, but because something wasn't. This is probably the most consistently tense I've been watching a horror movie since Hereditary: it simply does. not. let. up. The remarkable thing about it is that it's as straightforward as it seems: there's no huge twists, reveals, subversions or even surprises, and you're basically told how the movie will end about halfway through. The engagement comes from wanting to see just how far the movie will take its nut-squeezing tension before the inevitable. And fuck me they get every last drop out of it. The film's also properly nasty and even mean-spirited when it wants to, and goes all out balls to the wall in its climax.

The other area where the movie excels is the surprising level of nuance it inserts into its very limited cast (this movie basically only has four characters). They're not the best of buddies since childhood, they're just a random assortment of young people who hang out more out of just prolonged exposure to each other than anything deep. They're all messy and kinda scuzzy in their own ways: the girl the main character is in love with is pretty, but doesn't really seem like that nice a person, the friend is kind of a douchebag, and the MC himself is sympathetic and just plain pathetic, but also kind of monstrous in how out of his depth he is. It's very true to life in that love is often messy, we often see it through rose-tinted glasses, and it's very easy to justify being in a shitty situation, or even just plain being shitty. Then there's the oceanic depths of metaphor and subtext you can dissect this movie with: staying with an unwell partner, imposing your will on others, cutting yourself or your partner off from others, failing to appreciate what's in front of you, on and on the list goes.

And you can't really talk about this movie without talking about the performance from the crush, played by Inde Navarrette. If the world is just, this should be a star-making performance. She is absolutely terrifying, and best of all it's all her. There's no crazy makeup, effects, camera tricks or even lighting to highlight her acting, her standing in shadow is as elaborate as it gets. She (and the movie in general) reminded me of Sophie Thatcher in Companion from last year, in how they're both horror movies centered around the modern dating landscape, anchored by an absolutely killer female main performance that asks a ton physically and in terms of acting ability, and both are pulled off with flying colours.

True banger, and bound to appear on a lot of "best of the year" lists.
 
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