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This guy also has his character wear a T-shirt spelling 'Sony' as 'Soyny', which says enough. And looking through more of his work it's clear he's pretty much a cartoonist version of The Quartering, Yellowflash or any other idiot complaining about "SJWs" and "forced diversity".
I don't always agree with the guy, but he's nowhere near close to any of the guys you just mentioned. Every time I seen him ,I have yet to see himcomplain about diversity. Nor I have seen him encourage the harassment of women.
 
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I don't always agree with the guy, but he's nowhere near close to any of the guys you just mentioned. Every time I seen him ,I have yet to see himcomplain about diversity. No I have seen him encourage the harassment of women.
His work thus far suggests otherwise. 'Oh look, a comic about Anita Sarkeesian. Oh look, a comic about critics of Milo Yiannopoulos being violent rioters. Oh look, a comic depicting a feminist as a fat woman with pink hair. Oh look, ANOTHER comic about Anita Sarkeesian.'

Seriously dude, every image of this guy I click on has something to do with people being stupid for complaining about racism or sexism. Also titling a lot of his comics with 'gamergate life'. Sorry, but this guy is a fucking idiot.
 
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His work thus far suggests otherwise. 'Oh look, a comic about Anita Sarkeesian. Oh look, a comic about critics of Milo Yiannopoulos being violent rioters. Oh look, a comic depicting a feminist as a fat woman with pink hair. Oh look, ANOTHER comic about Anita Sarkeesian.'

Seriously dude, every image of this guy I click on has something to do with people being stupid for complaining about racism or sexism. Also titling a lot of his comics with 'gamergate life'. Sorry, but this guy is a fucking idiot.
Hence why I said I don't always agree with him. Nor do I subscribe to him or give him money. Some of those works I do find funny, others I'm usually indifferent or whatever.

If he wants to obsess over sarkisian, that's his problem. I don't like her nor have respect for her either, but as far as I'm concerned she's nothing worth crying over. She's just another schemer. I vaguely remember him making a comic saying he's long gotten over gamergate, but if he has a gamegatelife #, then something's definitely up. Always hated both gamergate and anti gamergate, cuz it led to nothing but more misery. And almost nobody learned a damn thing. Unless I see him physically supporting the quartering and the others, I will drop him completely. Otherwise, I'll keep a lookout for anything.
 
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It's undeniable that Sony censors anything "anime-like" by covering up cleavage, legs, midriffs, and exposed skin.
But Abby shirtless is just fine, according to them. This is a clear double standard, and the comic points that out.

This isn't suddenly untrue just because the author has other opinions that you don't agree with.
 
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It's undeniable that Sony censors anything "anime-like" by covering up cleavage, legs, midriffs, and exposed skin.
But Abby shirtless is just fine, according to them. This is a clear double standard, and the comic points that out.

This isn't suddenly untrue just because the author has other opinions that you don't agree with.
Like I said, I'm baised toward that, since I think this juvenile shit in anime and Japanese games could seriously use some culling. I'd rather Japan stop being so weird about sex and grow up a little.

The fact is that sex scene in TLoU2 wasn't there for cheap titilation, nor is it the umpteenth example of cheap titilation in gaming. So no, it's not just 'if anime does it it's bad, and if the West does it it's fine'. It's more a case similar to Rockstar, where Naughty Dog is allowed more leeway for risky material due to being a big name studio.

And the author is only criticizing this because it falls in line with his very apparent 'SJWs are ruining entertainment' way of thinking. Which yeah, makes me take anything he has to say with a giant pile of salt, if not just completely ignore it.
 

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Like I said, I'm baised toward that, since I think this juvenile shit in anime and Japanese games could seriously use some culling. I'd rather Japan stop being so weird about sex and grow up a little.
You could stop being so squeamish about it and treat sex like an adult.

The fact is that sex scene in TLoU2 wasn't there for cheap titilation, nor is it the umpteenth example of cheap titilation in gaming. So no, it's not just 'if anime does it it's bad, and if the West does it it's fine'. It's more a case similar to Rockstar, where Naughty Dog is allowed more leeway for risky material due to being a big name studio.
Doesn't change anything. Why it's there isn't the point. It's still a depiction of sex (Even more so than most Japanese games).

And the author is only criticizing this because it falls in line with his very apparent 'SJWs are ruining entertainment' way of thinking. Which yeah, makes me take anything he has to say with a giant pile of salt, if not just completely ignore it.
Label and dismiss eh?
 

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You could stop being so squeamish about it and treat sex like an adult.
I'd like the Japanese entertainment industry to start doing do that actually. Stop the dumb boob grabs, accidental walk-ins into change rooms, the up-skirts, the booby bounces. Have sex be sex instead of this naughty, teasing bullshit. Have at least 10% of the teasing result in actual sex, that'd be a start.

And while I'm at it, stop the creepy cutesifying/sexualizing of kids. Actually maybe work on that one first Japan.

Label and dismiss eh?
If it's a bad label... myeah.
 
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Like I said, I'm baised toward that, since I think this juvenile shit in anime and Japanese games could seriously use some culling. I'd rather Japan stop being so weird about sex and grow up a little.
I know Japan and its anime/gaming industry has of problems, don't sound so presumptuous. I don't like all this s*** they do either. but they can be adult about sex and mature themes, you just have to look harder for it. I can give you one recommendation: Catherine. Do you know the game is balls as hard. I don't want to get this too off-topic, so if there's anything else you can just send me private message.
 

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I know Japan and its anime/gaming industry has of problems, don't sound so presumptuous. I don't like all this s*** they do either. but they can be adult about sex and mature themes, you just have to look harder for it. I can give you one recommendation: Catherine. Do you know the game is balls as hard. I don't want to get this too off-topic, so if there's anything else you can just send me private message.
The fact that you have to look harder for it kinda says it all though. I liked Cathrine well enough, and I'll give it points for starring characters who are in their thirties. But I hated how waifu the pink haired girl was, and Vincent pulls something toward the end that made me go 'Wow, fuck you buddy', and I never bothered finishing it.

There's an anime called Macross Plus that features a scene where two characters are on a night out, they get flirty with eachother, and they have a one-night stand. It has none of that typical anime nonesense where the guy needs to be all befuddled and the girl needs to be shy and shocked, and gearing up to throw a punch and yell 'pervert', which then doesn't even lead to sex. It's just a man and a woman being into eachother and agreeing to just go with the moment. It's nice, and it's a fucking rarity in anime and Japanese games.

I mean, it's a running joke at this point that Resident Evil is, like, the most sexless sexy universe in gaming. Everybody's hot and seemingly very into eachother, but nobody ever gets their rocks off with one another. Same goes for Final Fantasy. Although those games certainly don't fall into the same weird, creepy teasing mentality that a lot of other anime and Japanese games do. But still, just let some of those characters actually get physical with eachother, for God's sake.
 

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I'd like the Japanese entertainment industry to start doing do that actually. Stop the dumb boob grabs, accidental walk-ins into change rooms, the up-skirts, the booby bounces. Have sex be sex instead of this naughty, teasing bullshit. Have at least 10% of the teasing result in actual sex, that'd be a start.

And while I'm at it, stop the creepy cutesifying/sexualizing of kids. Actually maybe work on that one first Japan.

If it's a bad label... myeah.
The good news is more manga and lns are depicting sex. But the bad news is it is still a 16 year old's fantasy about sex.
 

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The good news is more manga and lns are depicting sex. But the bad news is it is still a 16 year old's fantasy about sex.
I'm not really into current manga and anime much anymore, but I have heard that the whole declining birthrate in Japan is getting studios to make some anime to prod the youth into... getting busy. And not hentai stuff, but shows like Tsurezure Children and Darling in the Franxx. Don't know how I feel about anime that lowkey tries to tell its audience 'please go and have children please' though.
 

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but this artist brings up a very good point with Sony's Double Standard and hypocrisy
The Last of Us 2 has come out, and apparently it has a sex scene in which you can clearly see everything as if it was an amateur porn movie, and it also seems it may be a self insert from the director, Neil Druckmann.
"Good point"... yeah... sure... The guy clearly didn't even bother looking the scene up, let alone actually play the game himself. But all it takes for him to throw a hissy fit is hearsay, second-hand information and (frankly, pretty fucking disgusting) rumors. Forgive me if I'm not exactly convinced this guy isn't just another anti-SJW twatwaffle. Like, the most you see in that TLOU2 scene (which lasts like 20 seconds at most) is some very brief nips and a bit of sideboob. Somehow this reminds me of the Mass Effect controversy all those years ago.
 
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This is might be the longest non-pinned thread I’ve seen on the escapist.
 

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. Like, the most you see in that TLOU2 scene (which lasts like 20 seconds at most) is some very brief nips and a bit of sideboob. Somehow this reminds me of the Mass Effect controversy all those years ago.
I have seen the scene my self, but it's not about what's in it or how long it lasts. The main point is Sony acts like they have the high moral ground on what is and is not okay, when that is just another form of their arrogance and hypocrisy. The fact they will favor certain Western studios at times, while judging Japanese 3rd party companies arbitrarily on pathetic say so does not help. The fact they do censorship to seem more "progressive", to please a few wannabe feminists or those claiming to be hardcore feminists, or to "protect the children" says a lot.

And considering arrogance has gone to removing people talking about TLOU2 before the game even coming out (regardless if it was spoiler talk or not), Twitter removing Angry Joe's and certain other criticisms (I hate the man, but he's entitled to his opinion) and Sony not even bothering to call it out, nor stepping in to stop the harassment of Abby's voice actor speaks high volumes. They don't have any high moral ground.


 
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I have seen the scene my self, but it's not about what's in it or how long it lasts. The main point is Sony acts like they have the high moral ground on what is and is not okay, when that is just another form of their arrogance and hypocrisy. The fact they will favor certain Western studios at times, while judging Japanese 3rd party companies arbitrarily on pathetic say so does not help. The fact they do censorship to seem more"progressive", to please a few wannabe feminists or those claiming to be hardcore feminists, or to "protect the children" says a lot.

And considering arrogance has going to removing people talking about TLOU2 before the game even coming out (regardless if it was spoiler talk or not), Twitter removing Angry Joe's and certain other criticisms ( I hate the man, but he's entitled to his opinion) and Sony not even bothering to call it out, nor stepping in to stop the harassment of Abby's voice actor speaks high volumes. They don't have any high moral ground.


Agreed they need to be kept in check, especially on the censorship crap. Idk how it is that a company can be smart enough to come back to glory from the PS3 launch debacle to being stupid enough to fall back into an old shitty habit. Don’t they listen to anything or remember?

Having said that, it’s weird how Yo seems to know so much about this but he skipped over the part where Nintendo betrayed them at E3. PS+ raised the price but XBL was $60/yr all along. Speaking of Microsoft, they’ve killed more studios and projects in one generation than Sony ever has.

PS3 ended support as it is nearly 14yrs old now, but I still see 3 games being offered for *free* games. This month is NBA2K20, Rise of the Tomb Raider, and Erica. This video is also over a year old though, so maybe that’s changed. We’ll see how things go with the PS5.
 
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Having said that, it’s weird how Yo seems to know so much about this but he skipped over the part where Nintendo betrayed them at E3. PS+ raised the price but XBL was $60/yr all along. Speaking of Microsoft, they’ve killed more studios and projects in one generation than Sony ever has.
All true. I'm assuming he didn't bother with the Nintendo thing, since it's pretty well-known at this point. It is still odd. He has his own Microsoft sucks or did something crappy videos as well. But those are from 2013 to 2016/17. For the record, it's Simmons who usually does these videos.