Rubin for sure, Peterson was not on tv much I don't think, I saw him more on internet things, and he was an actual professor and psychologist and so on, he was making money on things like Patreon from normal average people as opposed to getting Koch donations and what have you.So Jordan Peterson or Dave Rubin? I alway wondered how they could call themselves intellectual when half their stuff is gobbligook
About the only time I ever saw Peterson on tv was when one of the people I am actually referring to was either interviewing him or also invited there, trying to "get" him, like that blond British lady who got her comeuppins in that one iconic interview. She didn't sound like she had one authentic opinion that whole time. That's the thing I'm describing, people officially on the payroll of the rich people who own the media corporations. And also Rubin.
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